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"However, to use this a talking point to trash the industry just like saying messy cattle operations dumping their shit in the river shows the abject contempt and ignorance for the industry at large and the benefits it has brought."
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I have witnessed the problems of both industries first hand and you can't deny they don't exist.

The oil industry has come a long way and so has the cattle industry. But there is more to do especially for some operators.

The cattle industry and the oil industry have both wanted less regulation and as result we still have cattle watering themselves in creeks, rivers and dugouts even though the best management practice is to provide them with a clean source of water so that their shit doesn't contaminate the water supply.

I pay taxes in three different RMs and I have noticed locally that RMs with oil and gas revenue are doing quite well. With that said, taxes to land owners have been increasing at much slower pace.I do believe improvements had to take place environmental wise which are happening. Glenn you might want to check what your RM collects in oil revenue since SAG -D plants have been put in place.

Quite the expert you are ! Strange as I don’t see many wellheads around you , actually none ?

In my home county, industry pays 93% of the property taxes, that's almost entirely oil and gas facilities.
I forget the exact number, but farmland is only one or two percent. It would be an unthinkable shock to the system if that goes away.

How come the free marketers support government regulation and intervention to take away landowners rights to deal with oil companies who want access to their land?

I don’t deny they exist. I just told you of problems I see so you’re preaching to the choir and any of us with wells know about it. Don’t worry we’ve dealt with our share of slick land men and had our battles too. Pipeline right of ways they don’t pay enough for the future pain in the ass. There is always room for improvement. Kinda like getting rid of the CWB has done wonders but we could do with a farmers advocate with teeth and mandated sales reports. There’s always room to do better.

Interesting. Would you consider cc. to be a slick farmer. I can't seem to distinguish the difference between him and an equivalent land man.

The first one of the slick we dealt with became what we would call a future friend. Still visit with him, at his city business, to catch up on the industry.

First meeting with him, he informed us that he was there working on behalf of the oil company interests, not ours. That was a bad start introduction, as most of us realize that a land person has a dual role to work for the land owner as well, even though you are not paying him.

Getting back to how we then dealt with him after hearing him out on what his bosses wanted from us. We listed our concerns with the proposal, and ended with, "we will sign whatever document your bosses have right now, but let us assure you that you and your business will never be back to deal with us again".

There was a light bulb moment from him. "Give me 15 minutes to revisit the drill location". Back he comes 15 minutes later with, "I see what you are talking about. I'll made your changes". Thirty deals later, it took no more than a few minutes to hash out what was needed , and we would spend the remaining time on things that matter.

It's all about reaching ground rule standards from square one, and not changing them frequently. cc., as a land man, would not last.

WiltonRanch, since you brought this up, how did you handle "slick"?

In my home county, industry pays 93% of the property taxes, that's almost entirely oil and gas facilities.
I forget the exact number, but farmland is only one or two percent. It would be an unthinkable shock to the system if that goes away.

In my RM here in the sw corner , there is a lot of tax revenue that comes from the gas companies . Let me tell you , the scenarios of what the taxes would be like without that revenue are basically this : Cutting Back on on a lot of services because the RM cannot afford to do them any longer.

Being on RM council , even though it was a thankless job for a few years , does provide some insight. RM amalgamation is going to be a reality in the near future .

Just my opinion.

The CWB debate was over a long time ago. Are some of you guys having trouble moving on? LOL

But nobody has answered my question. You guys often rant on about government over reach, intervention and the lack of property rights.

But how come the free marketers support government regulation and intervention to take away landowners rights to deal with oil companies who want access to their land?

The CWB debate was over a long time ago. Are some of you guys having trouble moving on? LOL

But nobody has answered my question. You guys often rant on about government over reach, intervention and the lack of property rights.

But how come the free marketers support government regulation and intervention to take away landowners rights to deal with oil companies who want access to their land?

Chuck2, I own the top 12 inches. The Province owns what lies beneath, they have the mineral rights, I do not. They have the right to access what they own.

"Another major issue with electric vehicles is that they’re significantly heavier than gas-powered vehicles.

“It’s a matter of physics,” said David Adams, the president of the Global Automakers of Canada. “The batteries are extremely heavy and the vehicles are extremely heavy.”

Adams explained that the larger the vehicle, the bigger and heavier the battery will have to be to power it, which makes it even more dangerous to cars on the road. He added that the tires for electric vehicles are also heavier than combustion engine vehicles because they are built to sustain the weight of the battery.

This added weight will put more strain on our roads. It also makes it much more dangerous for gas-powered vehicles when an electric vehicle and a gas-powered car collide.

In 2011, the National Bureau of Economic Research found that if a vehicle weighs 1,000 pounds more than another vehicle, it results in a 47 per cent increase in fatality risk.

Earlier this year, the National Transportation Safety Board in the U.S. raised concerns over the increasing weight of electric trucks and Hummers, saying, “We have to be careful that we aren’t also creating unintended consequences: More death on our roads…safety, especially when it comes to new transportation policies and new technologies, cannot be overlooked.”

Parkades will collapsed from heavier EV's. Bridges will be stressed. Endless bad shit!

what happes in a bad crash ? if the battery busts open , is their acid ? are they dry ? how safe is the crap in them if you get covered in it ? i guess people like me will again be called names because i have questions ! far right , flat earth etc