A interesting tweet from a indigenous friend

The funny thing in the tweets from Landdownunder, the aboriginals were being called out for their bad behaviour "entitlement".

But if you look at the history of hockey riots by hockey fans in Canada and bad behavior around soccer matches in parts of Europe, bad behavior is not unique to Aboriginals. And probably occurs in Australia too.

It seems convenient to forget about all the entitlement and bad behavior of sports fans over sports.

And lets not forget about all the bad behavior and entitlement of the convoy blockaders and occupiers in Ottawa, Windsor and Coutts who felt they had the right to harass residents, party in hottubs, and block businesses and people from going about their daily lives.

Not to mention the group that conspired to kill cops in Coutts. No doubt some of the usual suspects are part of their support group and fundraising organization because they were " freedom" fighters. So much for the get tough on crime agenda promoted by the some of the same supporters! LOL

Well… I’m not sure I’d use old mental hospital numbers as an example. They used to lock anyone up 😂 I think treatment and understanding of mental issues is much better than just lock them away and give them a lobotomy these days.

That said, I’m sure it has some bearing of course, just not the extreme of all those people that would’ve been in a mental hospital in the 60s are now criminals and going to jail instead.

No, but there is a very direct correlation between those released from mental institutions back in the day, and homelessness and addiction etc. Which in most cases leads to criminal behaviour to feed the addiction.

Depends on the illness.

Most “mental illness” these days isn’t really a genetic condition like schizophrenia or bipolar, it’s people declaring themselves as depressed or having anxiety or ADHD and self treating with drugs. Which the drugs then lead to high incidence of criminal activity, yes.

Mental institutions would have had primarily schizophrenics, manic bipolars, Autistics, Downs Syndromes, etc. Not someone who gets anxious when the phone rings.

I would say most criminals who aren’t actually sociopaths would have mental illnesses that are results of their lifestyles, not of their genetics like hospitals would have previously had.

If the graph was showcasing drug use within the general population and prison capacity, that would be appropriate, but trying to compare genetic conditions hospitalized and saying that instead of being hospitalized they’re all just being jailed now, I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve never got the impression that many convicts are schizophrenic or bipolar but maybe there’s a chart somewhere breaking down the different illnesses within the prison population that would show otherwise.

It would be interesting to see the chart back to 1900. If I had to guess I would say this chart is showing a contribution of peaking of PTSD from the wars.

Again that would be a lifestyle inflicted illness vs genetic and you can see the successful trend of treating these disorders as outpatients instead of institutionalizing them.

But then by your train of logic, PTSD is not being consistently, successfully treated in outpatients, they’re just in jail.

Yeah, I’ve got an interesting book on women being committed but it was the 18th or 19th century, not this recent.

It’s the book where I learned that the Latin word hestero means pertaining to the uterus, which is why we have hysterectomies. It’s also why it’s called hysteria because women who were mentally ill were obviously crazy just because they have a uterus 😂 If we act hysterical it’s also because of our wombs.

Those women most likely did have genetic conditions, or some form of trauma in some of the stories. It’s mind boggling how institutions treated them though. Much better off having mental issues now, that’s for sure. Go in with a panic attack and come out with a lobotomy and a hysterectomy back then! Which certainly wouldn’t help you function well.

Yeah, I’ve got an interesting book on women being committed but it was the 18th or 19th century, not this recent.

It’s the book where I learned that the Latin word hestero means pertaining to the uterus, which is why we have hysterectomies. It’s also why it’s called hysteria because women who were mentally ill were obviously crazy just because they have a uterus 😂 If we act hysterical it’s also because of our wombs.

Those women most likely did have genetic conditions, or some form of trauma in some of the stories. It’s mind boggling how institutions treated them though. Much better off having mental issues now, that’s for sure. Go in with a panic attack and come out with a lobotomy and a hysterectomy back then! Which certainly wouldn’t help you function well.

Careful, you are sounding woke.

Agstar don’t confuse an interest in reading and learning about topics and discussing them civilly as being “woke”.

Almost anything to do do with discussing or questioning the old order has been villified as woke on this site.

Yes I’m sure everyone here is very pro lobotomy as a medical treatment.

They also burn and stone and float test witches on the third Wednesday of every month.

And nobody works on Sunday.

And they all use reeds on their floors to keep their houses smelling fresh.

We shall remove your uterus, to remove your crazy, and if you are against us, you are against progress and science and you’re just an imbecile and easily mislead and terrorized by those who are against hysterectomies.

A5, Lobotomies and blood letting compared to modern day vaccines? Huh?

You don't you think science and knowledge have advanced a bit since the good ol days of yore. LOL

So how many childhood vaccines did you get? Or were your parents antivaxers too?

And you are pretty sure none of the vaccines you got were based on reliable clinical studies and data that showed they were effective?