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    Danielle Smith’s corporate welfare for the oil industry

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-danielle-smiths-corporate-welfare-for-the-oil-industry/

    opinion
    Danielle Smith’s corporate welfare for the oil industry
    The Editorial Board
    Published Yesterday

    Alberta Premier Danielle Smith wants to clean up old wells, ones that haven’t produced any oil or natural gas for decades yet still blight the province’s landscape.

    She’s got the right goal in mind – industry has been far too slow remediating old wells – but where Ms. Smith goes wrong is the proposed method. The Premier wants to give owners of inactive wells breaks on royalty payments on new wells they drill, in exchange for dealing with the old wells. The plan is corporate welfare, with Albertans bearing the cost of the private sector’s unfulfilled obligations and cleaning up the mess left behind after profits are extracted.

    Let’s say we flip around the idea. Yes, Alberta can use public money to clean up the oldest wells – but, then, instead of reducing royalties paid by those producers, increase the royalties bill owed to the province from oil and gas companies to cover the cost of remediating old wells.

    Mind you, our proposal is a little mischievous but it underlines the fact more needs to be done to clean up old wells – not by taxpayers but by industry, which took on the obligation when it was granted rights to drill in the first place.

    Oil and natural gas are owned by the people of Alberta. The surface land is sometimes owned by the Crown and in many cases privately. Farmland is typical. Companies in the fossil fuel industry bid in provincial auctions to win a lease for the subsurface mineral rights. If they need to drill on private land, a deal is made with the owner. Drilling comes with a promise to remediate the site after the resource is depleted. Royalties on the oil and gas are paid to the province.

    Where the system has faltered is on the back end – the cleanup. The situation worsened in recent years. The Globe and Mail in 2018 published an investigation called Hustle in the Oil Patch that looked at the issue of more than 100,000 inactive wells in Western Canada, the bulk in Alberta, and the risk citizens would be saddled with the cleanup bill.

    Inactive wells are owned by a company but are not yet remediated. The risk is those become orphan wells, with no corporate owner. The provincial and federal governments have both slung a lot of money at orphan wells in recent years. Ottawa committed $1.7-billion in the early months of the pandemic in 2020, with $1-billion to Alberta, for the cleanup of orphan and inactive wells.

    But Ms. Smith isn’t focused on orphans. She proposes to use public money for inactive wells owned by companies still in business. The province can’t give a royalty break to defunct operators. The premier’s plan is egregious in three ways.

    First, it is a wholesale violation of the polluter-pay principle. The company that made the mess, and profited from it, has to clean it up.

    Second, there is a giant moral hazard. If Ms. Smith subsidizes companies for doing what they’ve already promised, why would other companies who are currently living up to their obligations continue doing so? They’d basically be suckers, if the province was ready to foot the bill.

    Third, Ms. Smith’s role is problematic. Before she became premier, she was an industry lobbyist who pitched government on this concept – a pitch that was rejected by the United Conservative Party government she now leads.

    And that’s the simple answer: reject the plan again.

    Ms. Smith’s idea is a $100-million pilot project and on Wednesday afternoon she said consultations would take several months. It should have never been tabled. Bank of Nova Scotia this month showed the “biggest beneficiaries” would be some of the largest companies in the industry and said the plan violates “the core capitalist principle that private companies should take full responsibility for the liabilities they willingly accept.” And given booming oil profits, there’s never been a better time to deal with old problems.

    What Alberta should do is further strengthen its cleanup rules. Other places, like British Columbia, have deadlines to remediate wells. Alberta has a minimum annual level of industry spending on old wells, $700-million for 2023.

    The work to ensure old wells are cleaned up sets a standard for extraction industries across Canada. In the decades ahead, as mining for critical minerals increases, governments need to make sure that, eventually, companies pay the costs to shut down such mines. Think of the oil sands, the vast areas that will need to be remediated.

    In every case, the polluter-pay principle is key: It cannot be capitalism for profits and socialism for costs.

    #2
    Nothing like some handouts from taxpayers to an industry that currently has record profits! It's the Alberta way.

    For all the constant complainers in Alberta, how about focusing your wrath on the corruption and conflict of interest of Danielle Smith and the UPC in their give a ways to the golden goose! But there is no corruption western Canada!

    I can't wait for A5 and the usual suspects to call out Danny Smith for the corporate welfare for their supporters.

    So much for all the ranting and raving about marxists. Privatize the profits and socialize the cleanup. It's Alberta socialism at its finest. LOL

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      #3
      Love it, keep it up Danielle. Pump all the money to the patch you want and ignore the climate bedwetters.

      chuck when are you going to speak on the east Ohio environmental disaster, or the large methane release from US torpedoing the nordtream pipeline.

      Or are you just another empty vessel like Greta and Gore.
      Last edited by jazz; Feb 24, 2023, 08:32.

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        #4
        A good read from the Western experts. The Globe and Mail.

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          #5
          I'm trying to understand your conflicting positions on this issue.
          You recently started a thread about geothermal energy in alberta. If this proves to be viable, many of these existing Wells could be repurposed for minimal cost compared to starting from scratch.
          You are also a big proponent of electrification, which is requiring vast quantities of lithium. Many of these existing Wells contain brine rich with lithium. So we should remediate all of these without checking their potential, then start over drilling new ones?
          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Feb 24, 2023, 09:19.

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            #6
            Damm. Back to the cut and paste room for chuckchuck. Kamala cackle.

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              #7
              Originally posted by binthere View Post
              Damm. Back to the cut and paste room for chuckchuck. Kamala cackle.
              Yup, he must think people actually read his crap..

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                #8
                Originally posted by Partners View Post
                Yup, he must think people actually read his crap..
                Cut and paste if you have no original thought of your own. Me? I’d rather read original thoughts, even if it is idiotic.

                He still sides with the pedophile huh?

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                  #9
                  Regardless of what you think about sir Chuck.. ( i do respect him for coming on here and taking the abuse he does)
                  As an oilpatch albertan I dont understand how any sane minded person .. basically anywhere around the world could support this idea from Smith.

                  These arent orphan wells we are talking about ( ditched wells drilled by bankrupt/ obsolete companies) but rather existing wells that companies drilled and agreed to cleanup after their lifespan. This was part of their original contract when the wells were approved.
                  So now Smith proposes to skim oil royalty revenues from you...me... every albertan ( and canadian at that as alberta has definitely been a major economic driver this past year)..
                  In order to incentivise the largest oil companies to clean up wells that they are already under contract to do?

                  Honestly. You can angry type at me for threatening oil and gas jobs i guess... but if you think about this logically its absolutely insane!
                  Regardless of the record profits the o&G companies have posted the last 2 years... its still just absolutely absurd.


                  Think of it this way.

                  You retire and rent out your land.
                  The renter agrees to leave the land in good condition as it were. The renter does a fine job..but their last year they leave 20 bales out on the field and dont pick them up. For next year ( regardless of whether the contract is up or not) you offer them a 20$/ ac credit if they clean up their bales.


                  Its not much more simplistic than that.
                  The worst part about the whole deal is that the subsidy wont be avail to any companies that owe taxes to municipalities...towns..etc..or owe rent to the landlord. Now,around here the smallest companies are the ones that havent paid the last 3 years to multiple landowners we know and also our small nearby town. So these companies are probably the ones that actually would need the subsidy but wont be eligible. So who is going to get all the royalty credits?

                  Red white blue yellow
                  Democrat conservative maverick

                  It doesnt matter what you are or whT you believe in...
                  This deal is an absolute hogwash deal for albertans.

                  Hey accountant.. ill pay you an extra 100 bucks if you send my taxes away, even though you agreed to do it when i paid you for it!

                  Cmon guys...

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                    #10
                    What about giving Quebec $20B every yr. Nobody says boo about that.

                    Or the $20B trudeau gave away to africa, ukraine etc. crickets Trudeau gave $60B in cerb to unqualified people and never bothered to collect it.

                    At least the money is staying in the province and will create work for some people. Thats more than I can say about any policy thats come out of Trudeaus govt.

                    Maybe we can hire the 40,000 illegal refugees that Quebec and Trudeau let in the country. I heard Quebec is giving out one way bus tickets.
                    Last edited by jazz; Feb 24, 2023, 11:51.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      What about giving Quebec $20B every yr. Nobody says boo about that.

                      Or the $20B trudeau gave away to africa, ukraine etc. crickets Trudeau gave $60B in cerb to unqualified people and never bothered to collect it.

                      At least the money is staying in the province and will create work for some people. Thats more than I can say about any policy thats come out of Trudeaus govt.

                      Maybe we can hire the 40,000 illegal refugees that Quebec and Trudeau let in the country. I heard Quebec is giving out one way bus tickets.


                      Jazz
                      Man

                      Honestly. This has nothing to fo with trudeau ( what about the billions they funneled to alberta for the ORPHAN well program)? I dont hear you mentioning that?
                      Half my mens league hockey team worked all last winter on those orphan wells! They shut in something like 200 in our 5 local counties alone! That was trudeau!
                      Ps - i do not like trudeau.


                      Your retort had absolutely nothing to do with Smiths plan or any of my points?

                      Stay on topic! Cmon. Be better!
                      Argue the topic...dont deflect deflect deflect!

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                        #12
                        My understanding on this issue is vague at the best, what is a better plan speaking as someone with dead and active wells, just asking.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by goalieguy847 View Post
                          Jazz
                          Man

                          Honestly. This has nothing to fo with trudeau ( what about the billions they funneled to alberta for the ORPHAN well program)? I dont hear you mentioning that?
                          Half my mens league hockey team worked all last winter on those orphan wells! They shut in something like 200 in our 5 local counties alone! That was trudeau!
                          Ps - i do not like trudeau.


                          Your retort had absolutely nothing to do with Smiths plan or any of my points?

                          Stay on topic! Cmon. Be better!
                          Argue the topic...dont deflect deflect deflect!
                          It wasn’t $billions to Alberta. It was $1.7 billion to B.C., Alberta and Saskatchewan.

                          As for Premier Smiths plan, I would say a penalty for non compliance is more appropriate than a reward. So no I don’t agree with her plan.

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                            #14
                            This article written by Danielle Smith before she ran for the leadership gives some clarification. In it she talks about long existing wells owned by smaller companies which in my opinion will end up as orphan wells if not incentivized for clean up. No simple answer. If as I stated above they should be penalized, would they just walk away?

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