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    #16
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    A lot of the east west divide is just the usual politics that has been going on for decades.

    Western premiers often use the east west divide to further their own politic careers.

    Crypto Polly will focus on Ontario and Quebec as well. He has no choice if he wants to get elected.
    Partly true. Can’t deny that. Aside from that both sides of the country are growing apart culturally and economically.

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      #17
      The bigger split is rural urban across the country but even that divide is shrinking, as there are fewer and fewer farms and most kids are looking at the same social media.

      Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina and Winnipeg have more in common with other larger cities than smaller towns and rural residents.

      Rural people are just as unlikely to know much about the concerns of city residents as city residents know about the concerns of farmers.

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        #18
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        The bigger split is rural urban across the country but even that divide is shrinking, as there are fewer and fewer farms and most kids are looking at the same social media.

        Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina and Winnipeg have more in common with other larger cities than smaller towns and rural residents.

        Rural people are just as unlikely to know much about the concerns of city residents as city residents know about the concerns of farmers.
        True enough but western urban areas inherently owe their survival to the industries outside the city walls more so than Toronto or Montreal which act more like city states.

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          #19
          The resource sector and agriculture are much larger parts of western Canada's economies.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            The resource sector and agriculture are much larger parts of western Canada's economies.
            It would be so beneficial if our western economies could diversify into productive sectors not dependent on resources and ag or even more value adding of our resources. Think central Canada kind of hogs that stuff but population, location, and climate give a leg up. The granite curtains on either side doesn’t help neither.

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              #21
              There was a time that most had some relatives in Eastern Canada.
              My father's generation went there to work in the factories as that was where the better paying jobs were.
              Hard to have a connection with a far off region when you have no reason to go there.
              As was pointed out, people now go west or south.
              My one son works in the US as do many of his high school classmates due to the Dot com boom.

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                #22
                The disconnect doesn’t worry me, if people go a little hungry they will reconnect quickly, what I find worrying is the Trudeau government trying to destroy the west yet again!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                  There was a time that most had some relatives in Eastern Canada.
                  My father's generation went there to work in the factories as that was where the better paying jobs were.
                  Hard to have a connection with a far off region when you have no reason to go there.
                  As was pointed out, people now go west or south.
                  My one son works in the US as do many of his high school classmates due to the Dot com boom.
                  So true. Both sides of the family came from southern Ontario and the maritimes many moons ago. Lots of family in the states as well. Older generations used to keep in touch and relatives came out to visit. They’ve all died off and no one kept in touch. I can say with certainty my family has been in Canada for 200+ years but us westerners are diverging from the notion of the Canada the lower 49th Tim Hortons and the CBC pirveyed, and even our ancestors believed. No one is going to war and nothing of sorts to cement several generations back together neither. I don’t like the idea of separation but I don’t like the idea of how the west is drug along by the zeitgeist of central Canada which has become increasingly foreign to us. It is beyond an urban rural divide or even racial. Aside from hockey there’s not much in common.

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                    #24
                    So rural farmers and resource sector workers across the country don't have anything in common?

                    That's just not true.

                    Some of the political leaders in this country are stoking the divisions for their own political gain.

                    There isn't as much of a difference as you are being lead to to believe.

                    There are a few hard core separatists who will never be happy under any government but they are an extremely small group except in Quebec.

                    Quebec is the most different of all Canadian provinces because of culture and language and a history of being dominated by English Canada.

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                      #25
                      So not so wise, you don't have to be an expert to know that Quebecers speak a different langauge and have a different culture and history than the rest of Canada do you? LOL

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        So rural farmers and resource sector workers across the country don't have anything in common?

                        That's just not true.

                        Some of the political leaders in this country are stoking the divisions for their own political gain.
                        Wow, that is quite the admonition from a hardcore federalist such as yourself. To actually admit that the citizens from the productive regions of the country have mostly the same grievances and economic interests as each other.

                        And as you correctly point out, the current administration is stoking division between this group, and the more urban voters, for their own political gain.

                        Which is why the convoy so spooked the Liberal elite. The repressed classes united and realized we do all have a common cause, and common enemy. The long used divide and conquer tactics were no longer effective amongst the groups who also just so happen to have the most actual power to disrupt the society and the economy.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                          Wow, that is quite the admonition from a hardcore federalist such as yourself. To actually admit that the citizens from the productive regions of the country have mostly the same grievances and economic interests as each other.

                          And as you correctly point out, the current administration is stoking division between this group, and the more urban voters, for their own political gain.

                          Which is why the convoy so spooked the Liberal elite. The repressed classes united and realized we do all have a common cause, and common enemy. The long used divide and conquer tactics were no longer effective amongst the groups who also just so happen to have the most actual power to disrupt the society and the economy.
                          Crickets from Chuck.

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                            #28
                            Crypto Polly, Danny Smith and Scotty Moe are also doing a good job of stoking divisions for their own political gain.

                            You will never be happy A5 because your utopian libertarian views will never come to be anything anywhere.

                            But don't let that stop you from raising funds to get the cop killing conspirators from Coutts out of jail.

                            So much for your get tough on crime agenda!

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                              #29
                              water box thingey numb nuts is breaking the country

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                But don't let that stop you from raising funds to get the cop killing conspirators from Coutts out of jail.
                                I'm not sure where this outburst came from, is it from the same source as the Jewish space lasers that agstar was ranting about?
                                Your attempts at deflecting from a simple question get more elaborate and absurd by the day.

                                Trying to get back on topic. Are you suggesting that the appropriateness of divisive politics is dependent on which side is doing the dividing, and which side is uniting?
                                It was heartwarming to see the various marginalized groups from all across the country finding common ground during the convoy. But you are opposed to that.

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