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Jan 18, 2023 | 10:21 1 But the ocean has not risen again this year!!!!! Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 18, 2023 | 12:07 3 Where you at ?
    That looks like the glass bottom boat in Tobago
    Sheet of plexiglass lol
    The one in Roatan puts you about 6-8’ below surface
    The non water people are really impressed!
    Then they have a free diver mermaid comes up to the window sometimes
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    Jan 18, 2023 | 12:18 4
    Quote Originally Posted by Robertbarlage View Post
    Nice beach, could be a Cialis commercial. Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Jan 18, 2023 | 12:20 5
    Quote Originally Posted by rumrocks View Post
    Nice beach, could be a Cialis commercial.
    for what Canada spent fighting a cold, we could have bought every island in the Caribbean. Reply With Quote

  • fjlip's Avatar Jan 18, 2023 | 13:08 6
    Quote Originally Posted by Robertbarlage View Post
    But the ocean has not risen again this year!!!!!
    None have in hundreds of years...but crapchuck et al are still scared! Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 18, 2023 | 16:34 7
    Quote Originally Posted by fjlip View Post
    None have in hundreds of years...but crapchuck et al are still scared!
    Sattelite data at .14 in per year. Not exactly a tsunami. Never notice it on your annual trip to the sun. Taken globally , that is a lot of water. Reply With Quote
    Jan 18, 2023 | 16:58 8 Actually that’s a bunch of bull shit! Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 18, 2023 | 18:05 9
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    Sattelite data at .14 in per year. Not exactly a tsunami. Never notice it on your annual trip to the sun. Taken globally , that is a lot of water.
    Don’t believe that for one minute ?
    Show tangible proof? Reply With Quote
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  • fjlip's Avatar Jan 18, 2023 | 18:22 10 Like any ocean is glass calm to measure 0.14 of any thing...still BELIEVE and nothing else. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 18, 2023 | 18:42 11
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    Sattelite data at .14 in per year. Not exactly a tsunami. Never notice it on your annual trip to the sun. Taken globally , that is a lot of water.
    You've been misled Agstar.
    There are so many variables due to waves,tides,water temp,base line, that confidence in those numbers is extremely low overall.
    The Muldives are in danger as they have been forever.
    Send money. Lots. Reply With Quote
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  • cropgrower's Avatar Jan 18, 2023 | 19:21 12
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    Sattelite data at .14 in per year. Not exactly a tsunami. Never notice it on your annual trip to the sun. Taken globally , that is a lot of water.
    please explain for us how a sattelite could measure a few mm of change in sea level Reply With Quote
    Jan 19, 2023 | 08:47 13 I see flat earth logic still prevails amongst the agrisilly faithfull!

    How would you know from visiting a single beach in the last 5 or 10 years whether sea levels are rising mm per year?

    Did you keep track of the seal level with a measuring stick for 365 days 24 hours a day? Quite the feat during a vacation let alone for the other 350 days of the year for 10 years.

    Have another drink and snooze and leave the math and science to the scientists.

    Oh yeah I forgot that this is the antiscience dumbass crowd who can't do math! LOL Reply With Quote
    Jan 19, 2023 | 08:54 14
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    I see flat earth logic still prevails amongst the agrisilly faithfull!

    How would you know from visiting a single beach in the last 5 or 10 years whether sea levels are rising mm per year?

    Did you keep track of the seal level with a measuring stick for 365 days 24 hours a day? Quite the feat during a vacation let alone for the other 350 days of the year for 10 years.

    Have another drink and snooze and leave the math and science to the scientists.

    Oh yeah I forgot that this is the antiscience dumbass crowd who can't do math! LOL

    Oh look it is the antifarmer dumbass poster who only responds with insults lol! I thought I would try responding like you Chuck2🤪 Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Jan 19, 2023 | 08:59 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    Oh look it is the antifarmer dumbass poster who only responds with insults lol! I thought I would try responding like you Chuck2🤪
    Hamloc, dont sweat it. This is the year where chuck gets locked in the Spiritual Vignettes thread by himself.

    The tide is turning. Reply With Quote

  • Jan 19, 2023 | 09:21 16
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    I see flat earth logic still prevails amongst the agrisilly faithfull!

    How would you know from visiting a single beach in the last 5 or 10 years whether sea levels are rising mm per year?

    Did you keep track of the seal level with a measuring stick for 365 days 24 hours a day? Quite the feat during a vacation let alone for the other 350 days of the year for 10 years.

    Have another drink and snooze and leave the math and science to the scientists.

    Oh yeah I forgot that this is the antiscience dumbass crowd who can't do math! LOL
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    Here is the tide Guage data for 120yrs from our climate change activists favorite surfing spot.
    What do you see here Chuck?
    I see huge variations y/y.
    How can you see that chart as fearfull?

    Spend a little time on a warm beach.
    The ocean isn't going to be our demise. Reply With Quote
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  • fjlip's Avatar Jan 19, 2023 | 09:57 17 Oh no, but but is it PEER reviewed by 10,000 Climate Experts??? Better check chuck! There you have a few hours of searching.

    "antifarmer dumbass poster" Reply With Quote
    Jan 19, 2023 | 10:15 18
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post

    Oh yeah I forgot that this is the antiscience dumbass crowd who can't do math! LOL
    • "Dire Famine by 1975, according to a Stanford University biologist.
      Air pollution causing new Ice Age by 2000, according to a scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research.
      Americans would be rationing water by 1974 and food by 1980, according to noted ecologist, Dr. Paul Erlich.
      The Republic of Maldives will be submerged due to rising oceans by 2018, says their Environmental Affairs Director in 1988.
      Snowfall would become a thing of the past, according to a senior research scientist at the University of East Anglia in 2000."


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  • Jan 19, 2023 | 10:22 19 The flat earthers like jazz post one beach area that happens to see a decline in tide levels over time. But they dont know that sea level rise varies around the globe depending on a lot of factors.

    But if you don't pay attention to the science of sea level rise it's no surprise that climate change deniers would be misinformed.

    Read the full article at NASA which explains all the complexities and provides a map of the world that shows the variation. Tofino is one site where sea levels are not increasing and appear to be decreasing.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/ask-nasa-climate/3002/sea-level-101-part-two-all-sea-level-is-local/

    Sea Level 101, Part Two: All Sea Level is ‘Local'

    As discussed in our last Sea Level 101 blog post, we know sea level on the open ocean isn’t really flat. A number of factors combine to determine the topography of the ocean surface.

    Global sea level rise is complex as well. To begin with, it has multiple causes, including the thermal expansion of the ocean as it warms, runoff of meltwater from land-based ice sheets and mountain glaciers, and changes in water that’s stored on land. These factors combine to raise the height of our global ocean about 3.3 millimeters (0.13 inches) every year. That rate is accelerating by another 1 millimeter per year (0.04 inches per year) every decade or so.
    Factors that contribute to sea level change.
    Factors that contribute to sea level change. Credit: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2001

    Another factor that makes sea level rise complex is that it’s not uniform around the globe. If you look at a global map of sea level rise, you’ll find it’s happening rapidly in some places and more slowly in others. This means that although sea level rise affects coastal areas all over our ocean planet, some regions feel its effects sooner and more severely than others. This is reflected in future projections of sea level rise, with many cities in Asia expected to be among the hardest hit localities. Here in the United States, cities expected to see the worst impacts include New York, Miami and New Orleans, to name but a few.
    Total sea level change between 1992 and 2014, based on data collected from the U.S./European Topex/Poseidon, Jason-1, and Jason-2 satellites.
    Total sea level change between 1992 and 2014, based on data collected from the U.S./European Topex/Poseidon, Jason-1, and Jason-2 satellites. Credit: NASA’s Scientific Visualization Studio

    Indeed, at any given place and time around our planet, sea level rise varies. But why is that? It turns out that when it comes to sea level rise, it’s all local. And it’s all relative.
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    Jan 19, 2023 | 10:32 20 https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
    Climate Change: Global Sea Level
    By Rebecca Lindsey Reviewed By Rick Lumpkin, Greg Johnson, Phillip Thompson, AND William Sweet
    Published April 19, 2022
    Highlights

    Global average sea level has risen 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880.
    In 2021, global sea level set a new record high—97 mm (3.8 inches) above 1993 levels.
    The rate of global sea level rise is accelerating: it has more than doubled from 0.06 inches (1.4 millimeters) per year throughout most of the twentieth century to 0.14 inches (3.6 millimeters) per year from 2006–2015.
    In many locations along the U.S. coastline, the rate of local sea level rise is greater than the global average due to land processes like erosion, oil and groundwater pumping, and subsidence.
    High-tide flooding is now 300% to more than 900% more frequent than it was 50 years ago.
    If we are able to significantly reduce greenhouse gas emissions, U.S. sea level in 2100 is projected to be around 0.6 meters (2 feet) higher on average than it was in 2000.
    On a pathway with high greenhouse gas emissions and rapid ice sheet collapse, models project that average sea level rise for the contiguous United States could be 2.2 meters (7.2 feet) by 2100 and 3.9 meters (13 feet) by 2150. Reply With Quote
    Jan 19, 2023 | 10:35 21 So NOAA and NASA are wrong? LOL

    So which credible scientific organizations are saying that climate change is not causing the sea level rise in most parts of the world?

    If there are, post the name and reference or link. Good Luck!

    And the flat earthers will come up empty handed again and again!
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  • Jan 19, 2023 | 10:45 23 That's a lame argument.

    All the 10,000s of scientists are bought off! By whom? LOL

    All the Conservative premiers have their own scientists who also agree the climate is changing.

    Is that all you got. Because if so, give up!
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    blackpowder's Avatar Jan 19, 2023 | 10:53 24 I have degrees in bovine excrement management and agricultural field crops production.
    (When younger wielded a mean 6 tine fork in the barn and cleared land without a rock picker)
    I am told the tectonic plates are moving away/towards each other at an inch or two a year. Continental beaches would change too.
    I'm also told that the planet is never perfectly round. Various gravitational forces slosh that general depth around all the time.
    All believable if you're settled on the evidences of geology and physics.
    I see no evidence for the greatest wealth transfer in history being levied on the people who have cheap energy and food. So the 1 in 10 of the worlds people who go to sleep hungry, can be told the planet isn't 2 degrees hotter in 150 years. They sure won't be seeing the cash. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 19, 2023 | 10:55 25 My point Chuck was how can you look at the extreme variables on that chart and come to absolute conclusions?

    Measured from a satellite FLOATING 100 miles above the ocean that has tides,storm surge,waves up to 60 ft, temp expansion and contraction,currents that change seasonal,etc,etc,etc.
    Measuring in fractions of a centimeter?
    Really?
    Let's spend a few hundred trillion dollars and realign our society on that type of modeling? Reply With Quote
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  • jazz's Avatar Jan 19, 2023 | 11:07 26
    Quote Originally Posted by shtferbrains View Post
    Measured from a satellite FLOATING 100 miles above the ocean that has tides,storm surge,waves
    You mean the satellites who cant even perform a 2 ft image resolution on the earth while we take pics of galaxys 10B light yrs away with Hubble tech from 1989.

    BP funny you should mention plate tectonics because more carbon is emitted from collision of plates than humans could even do burning FF for 150 yrs.

    Please start a plate tectonic tax, because we got to save the planet. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 19, 2023 | 11:16 27 chucks too slow to realize the climate cult is all a scam ! Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 19, 2023 | 11:19 28 Most scientists and professors scam universities and governments to fill their pockets ! Reply With Quote
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  • fjlip's Avatar Jan 19, 2023 | 11:45 29 Just like WE can come up with a WORLD temperature to tenths of a degree ....BULLSH IT! It's all BELIEVE!

    The whole pile of world data is within the margin of error!

    Just words, distraction, fear mongering while the billionaires SCREW us over! Reply With Quote

  • blackpowder's Avatar Jan 19, 2023 | 12:49 30 I'm on board against pollution and waste. This has become a crusade.
    Our energies on this site would be better spent unilaterally defending our industry against our government's said crusade.
    Divide and conquer. Chuck is actually winning hands down. Reply With Quote