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    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    So we are all supposed to switch over to electric vehicles to solve a climate emergency caused by burning fossil fuels. Then we take our electric vehicles and plug them into a grid anywhere in the world, which is primarily fossil fuel powered. And when we can't access the grid, we'll plug them into a fossil fuel powered generator.
    Anyone else getting the impression that no one takes the climate emergency seriously?
    Only brainwashed non reasoning lemmings. The cliff beckons. Go for...jump!

    Rather not give sheep a bad name.

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      https://www.carsguide.com.au/ev/advice/why-evs-are-more-energy-efficient-than-combustion-cars-even-if-theyre-powered-by-coal

      Came across this article a while back and had it bookmarked. I'll just put it out there for intelligent comment.

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        Why are all the ads for EV shows them plugged in?
        Gas burners are always showed pulling something..
        Think on it.

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          Originally posted by Bin Lurking View Post
          https://www.carsguide.com.au/ev/advice/why-evs-are-more-energy-efficient-than-combustion-cars-even-if-theyre-powered-by-coal

          Came across this article a while back and had it bookmarked. I'll just put it out there for intelligent comment.
          This has been discussed here before. That is definitely one of the many advantages of electric vehicles. As I have noted in the past, I see a lot of benefits to replacing dirty unreliable complicated inefficient engines with electric wherever it is feasible.
          According to the article you posted:
          if a power plant was solely run using fossil fuels, an electrified passenger fleet would still reduce emissions by between five and 29 per cent.
          We keep being told that is a climate emergency. Requiring immediate and drastic actions.
          Yet the proposed solution will reduce emissions by somewhere between 5 and 29%. I'm trying to figure out how fast we will get to to NetZero by reducing our emissions on all mobile transportation by 5%.
          That is without considering that currently only one third of total energy consumption in the US comes from electricity. So if we are going to convert the transportation fleet and heating and industrial processes to electricity, we need to almost triple our generation and distribution networks. By the time we take into account the energy invested in all of that infrastructure, how much of the efficiency gains of going electric are left over?
          Another stat, currently in the US 80% of all primary energy comes from fossil fuels.

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            Originally posted by Partners View Post
            Why are all the ads for EV shows them plugged in?
            Gas burners are always showed pulling something..
            Think on it.


            Just wondering what you do when fossil fuels run out. Let your kids or grand kids worry about it? Word use like "all" and "always" can be questioned.

            Edit: This is a photo of a Rivian EV "pulling something" looks like an ICE vehicle ran out of FF
            Just to make a point
            Last edited by Guest; Feb 18, 2023, 17:26.

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              Originally posted by Bin Lurking View Post


              Just wondering what you do when fossil fuels run out. Let your kids or grand kids worry about it? Word use like "all" and "always" can be questioned.
              Are we sure they are 'fossil fuels' or is that just a marketing term? Seems they are often found at depths below the level fossils have ever been discovered. Also so called depleted oil fields are often surprisingly replenished years later. Stay skeptical.
              Last edited by biglentil; Feb 17, 2023, 21:43.

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                Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                Are we sure they are 'fossil fuels' or is that just a marketing term? Seems they are often found at depths below any fossils have ever been discovered. Also so called depleted oil fields are often surprisingly replenished years later. Stay skeptical.
                That is interesting. I've wondered about that. Were FF known reserves really created from massive vegetative or organic materials buried long ago? Or are they naturally occurring carbon concentrations that were deposited when earth was formed? Or something else. First I hear of depleted oil fields replenishing, I'll have to look that up.

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                  "Are we sure they are 'fossil fuels' or is that just a marketing term? Seems they are often found at depths below the level fossils have ever been discovered. Also so called depleted oil fields are often surprisingly replenished years later. Stay skeptical."

                  Agree total bullsh it!

                  No fossils that deep. Just the earth and chemical, reactions/compressions, probably ENDLESS supply.

                  Cancel that term, I never repeat it. Hydrocarbons.

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                    Originally posted by Bin Lurking View Post


                    Just wondering what you do when fossil fuels run out. Let your kids or grand kids worry about it? Word use like "all" and "always" can be questioned.
                    Carbon based fuels are infinitely available. As long as plants will grow, fixing c02 from the air, carbon based fuels will be available.

                    C02 is the same as H2O ; infinitely available… even if it is buried… can be recovered.

                    Hybrid vehicles are the most efficient… plug in when convenient… biofuels of high energy when needed.

                    Closed minds… that refuse to accept common sense solutions… are doomed to being dinosaurs…. Extinction through lack of imagination…

                    Cheers

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                      Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                      Carbon based fuels are infinitely available. As long as plants will grow, fixing c02 from the air, carbon based fuels will be available.

                      C02 is the same as H2O ; infinitely available… even if it is buried… can be recovered.

                      Hybrid vehicles are the most efficient… plug in when convenient… biofuels of high energy when needed.

                      Closed minds… that refuse to accept common sense solutions… are doomed to being dinosaurs…. Extinction through lack of imagination…

                      Cheers
                      Interesting...

                      Miracle Chanel had a 5 minute news segment on the "Mask Mandate"...

                      A PHD Scientist... with 20+ years experience in multiple fields/disciplines.... in research directly applicable...

                      wearing masks did 0 [zero]... absolutely nothing, to stop the spread of Covid19. in fact the statistical evidence was slightly worse .... and the argument that masks were to protect others... was equally as ineffective in preventing Covid19 transmission.

                      Simply a novel argument with no factual truth.

                      These same mind control expert/specialists... are enforcing "Climate Change" Co2 zero carbon brain washing. How gullible... humanity is....

                      Be not Deceived....

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                        Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                        Interesting...

                        Miracle Chanel had a 5 minute news segment on the "Mask Mandate"...

                        A PHD Scientist... with 20+ years experience in multiple fields/disciplines.... in research directly applicable...

                        wearing masks did 0 [zero]... absolutely nothing, to stop the spread of Covid19. in fact the statistical evidence was slightly worse .... and the argument that masks were to protect others... was equally as ineffective in preventing Covid19 transmission.

                        Simply a novel argument with no factual truth.

                        These same mind control expert/specialists... are enforcing "Climate Change" Co2 zero carbon brain washing. How gullible... humanity is....

                        Be not Deceived....
                        Are those the same simpletons that said the blood of C##$t would protect them from covid? No wonder you are so screwed up. I definitely won't be deceived by those blood suckers.

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                          You still wearing your mask while you sleep Aggy?

                          Even the n95 useless against the 2 micron covid virus. Like how a chainlink fence stops flies.

                          "It found that “wearing N95/P2 respirators probably makes little to no difference in how many people have confirmed flu (five studies; 8407 people); and may make little to no difference in how many people catch a flu-like illness (five studies; 8407 people), or respiratory illness (three studies; 7799 people).”

                          The 78 studies looked at participants from countries of all income levels."

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                            Fox News? LOL Well that explains the problem you have.

                            You cant tell credible information and science from fiction!

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                              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              Fox News? LOL Well that explains the problem you have.

                              You cant tell credible information and science from fiction!
                              Fox propaganda channel and the miracle channel, your true sources of scientific enlightenment.

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                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                Fox News? LOL Well that explains the problem you have.

                                You cant tell credible information and science from fiction!
                                What's your credible info?
                                Let's see the list.

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