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jazz's Avatar Nov 22, 2022 | 19:37 1 I am not a hunter or sport shooter so maybe someone can interpret this;

https://thegunblog.ca/2022/11/22/liberals-aim-to-ban-sks-and-all-other-semi-auto-centrefire-mag-fed-rifles-and-shotguns/ Reply With Quote
Nov 22, 2022 | 19:56 2
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I am not a hunter or sport shooter so maybe someone can interpret this;

https://thegunblog.ca/2022/11/22/liberals-aim-to-ban-sks-and-all-other-semi-auto-centrefire-mag-fed-rifles-and-shotguns/
At least the government doesn’t know where most of the SKS rifles are, I could never figure out why the AR-15 was banned, lots of more powerful rifles out there that are still legal, after all the government overreaching I wouldn’t imagine many will be turned in. Reply With Quote
DaneG's Avatar Nov 22, 2022 | 21:55 3 It is very clear that this government doesn’t want firearms in the hands of the average Canadian. The 2020 ban of numerous models and so called variants of firearms was not enough for the liberals, then the handgun import ban and transfer freeze felt so good to their egos they are now proposing a virtually total ban on semi auto firearms.
This may seem totally logical to people who don’t own, want to own, have a need or use for a firearm. I could come to the same conclusion about another tool that society has adopted wholeheartedly, that tool is the cell phone. I don’t own, want to own, have a need or use for a Cell phone because of no service in this area. Distraction while using this tool contributes to untold death and injuries but ,but, but, it is not the same. Well dead is dead and you only die once!
So very soon the ones with firearms will be government allowed organizations( police,military ) and criminals and we will all be safe because the average licensed firearms owner will be no longer in possession of firearms. Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Nov 22, 2022 | 21:59 4 The Colt AR-15 and some of it's clones had been restricted, like a handgun for years.
    The total ban encompassed all it's variants. Along with many other semi auto styles. Mini-14 and M1A and clones for just one example.
    M1 carbines have always been restricted like a handgun because of barrel length. M1 Garands never because of a non removable magazine I suppose.
    That they are banning all semi autos was written on the wall since Oz and NZ did theirs.
    The 7.62x39 SKS is akin to a 30-30 for hunting purposes. It's popular because it is/was dirt cheap.
    This ban will take years and cost billions. Or will it????
    I know of RPALs whose renewal was sent in 6+ months before expiry not being received yet.
    Effectively placing all those owners in legal jeopardy of charges and immediate confiscation. Coincidence??????
    No one really cares. Until the same tactics are used for something you own.
    Personal bank accounts frozen during a protest???
    Gas cars? Herbicides? Wood stoves?
    A sarcastic LOL
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  • Nov 22, 2022 | 22:54 5 So who is going to go door to door collecting them?
    I think it won't play well when they see who actually has gun collections.
    Mr Trudeau is not a popular guy among front line police of any group.
    Who would want that job?

    Latest warning I saw recently was " Be carefull when picking up my guns as the barrel will be hot"

    The only guns they got last time were a mix of junk and some great old heirlooms that widows brought in because they didn't know what they were worth.

    Now they have a huge budget that will go to some pork barrel friend to chop them.

    Gun collections have always been assets that appreciated.
    Question is will that value go up or down?

    Rarity real or perceived always drives price.
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    blackpowder's Avatar Nov 22, 2022 | 23:12 6 Don't know, but the valuable ones sure won't get chopped. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 23, 2022 | 06:50 7 Meanwhile criminals will keep their guns and have a hay day on unprotected productive tax payers…
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  • DaneG's Avatar Nov 23, 2022 | 07:02 8 A recap on bill c-21

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zjhVIoUC0HM
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    Nov 23, 2022 | 07:50 9 We need the emergency measures act, to protect us from the government. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 24, 2022 | 07:35 10 The vast majority of Canadians don't own guns and support tougher gun laws on handguns and assault rifles.

    This issue works against the Conservatives in urban and suburban ridings that matter most in the next election.

    After all the high profile mass murders in the US and Canada with many committed by "legal" gun owners who thinks they can win this argument suggesting that semi automatic assault rifles in the hands of anyone who wants one is a good idea?
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  • Nov 24, 2022 | 08:35 11
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post

    After all the high profile mass murders in the US and Canada with many committed by "legal" gun owners
    Do you have stats to back that up? Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Nov 24, 2022 | 11:23 12 His first two paragraphs are correct.
    His third however uses misnomers and false assumptions as usual.
    He still supports government control of our wheat sales. A factual discussion about rights to property and dangerous precedents is useless. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 24, 2022 | 18:25 13 Nobody has the balls to go from farm to farm confiscating once legal firearms, nobody not anyone or anybody. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 24, 2022 | 20:59 14 RCMP are overworked and under staffed, and pissed off with the Feds as it is. I’m no hunter but have the usual farmer guns for my needs. We were in the gun store today and the list of guns added onto this ban makes less sense than the assault rifle ban. They just want an excuse to ban all guns. Way it stands we’re screwed. Guys like Chuck will be lining up to be firearms inspectors going door to door confiscating guns. They narcissist rule followers with a deep ingrained hatred for their neighbours. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 24, 2022 | 21:27 15 Those narcissistic pricks won’t have a long shelf life, most of us aren’t eating bugs, the only reason the government wants all the guns is they are planning something really ignorant and don’t want people to fight back, imagine, this is all in the name of safety.

    The long gun registration this spring sold a record amount of guns and the hand gun restrictions this summer sold a record amount of hand guns, I wonder how the semiauto sales are going. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 24, 2022 | 21:40 16
    Quote Originally Posted by TSIPP View Post
    Those narcissistic pricks won’t have a long shelf life, most of us aren’t eating bugs, the only reason the government wants all the guns is they are planning something really ignorant and don’t want people to fight back, imagine, this is all in the name of safety.

    The long gun registration this spring sold a record amount of guns and the hand gun restrictions this summer sold a record amount of hand guns, I wonder how the semiauto sales are going.
    In another thread, it was asked what this government has accomplished. Getting a lot more guns into the hands of the citizens was certainly an accomplishment to be proud of. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 24, 2022 | 22:45 17 Hunters white, medium and dark will keep their guns, no worry.
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Nov 30, 2022 | 12:55 18 Just a PSA.
    Just scanned through the new list. Warning, it's an eye bleed.
    Everyone else should too.
    Some Benelli shotguns and Weatherby MK Vs on list.
    Safari rifles, elephant guns.
    A lot of formerly prohibited but legally owned grandfathered.
    Essentially, if it's semi automatic or larger bore you should do your own checking.
    A very expensive snafu.
    Some are hanging their hats on PP getting in and repealing. But the barn doors will always be left open.
    Think the Paul Harvey videos in another thread.
    Kinda like having the Green Party walking through your farm yard with a black marker banning what they please willy nilly. Not so far fetched when you think of it that way. Coming to a farm near you! haha Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 30, 2022 | 16:13 19
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    Just a PSA.
    Just scanned through the new list. Weatherby MK Vs on list.

    https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/the-list.pdf

    why the hate on for a bolt action mark V ? Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Nov 30, 2022 | 20:22 20 It was under the 10,000 joule limit category.
    Listed all Mark Vs but not the calibers.
    Technically some 460 loads. Anything over 7376 ft lbs at the muzzle.
    Brilliant hey? Reply With Quote
    Nov 30, 2022 | 20:25 21 I’m really hoping I’m wrong but I think we will probably need all the guns we can handle, and maybe a little amo. Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Nov 30, 2022 | 20:39 22 Normally I would say that thinking hurts the cause. But really, the cause is long lost anyway. Hoard away! Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 30, 2022 | 20:56 23 One gun used properly is all you need. Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Nov 30, 2022 | 21:04 24 Someone's not afraid of what they say on the internet lol.... Reply With Quote
    Nov 30, 2022 | 21:43 25 I’ve read enough history that tells us when the the government wants the guns it’s time we hold on to them,
    Anyway maybe we all need 2 guns like the Finish farmer that shot over 500 Russians, just google
    The white death. Reply With Quote
    jazz's Avatar Dec 1, 2022 | 16:40 26 Damn Scott Moe is right on the mark, rapid response to the feds. Using that Sask First Act already.

    Whats Trudeau going to do, send in the trampling horses. Good luck

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  • Dec 1, 2022 | 17:28 27 Really starting to change my opinion on Mr. Moe! Reply With Quote
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  • Dec 1, 2022 | 18:30 28 So are First Nations “protected” from this gun grab as well under section 35 ? Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Dec 2, 2022 | 00:18 29 Not overly clear how this will help. Reply With Quote
    jazz's Avatar Dec 2, 2022 | 07:43 30
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    Not overly clear how this will help.
    From what I understand, the act uses a bunch of administrative avenues to frustrate confiscation.

    The provinces has intervened in the buyback funding meaning they can restrict it, so no money, no buy back.

    The province can direct RCMP and police to not follow the law and if the feds push it through, any confiscation agents by law must register with the provinces Chief Firearms Officers. Remember when Moe put that position back in provincial control last summer.

    On top of that trespass laws, so none of these guys are going to get anywhere near your farmyard. Reply With Quote