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jazz's Avatar Sep 16, 2022 | 19:14 1 Wheat still testing 16%, (Canola testing 20%..LOL)

Couple 20C deg days on tap this weekend - can I blow that down into the 14s this time of yr within a couple days.

Showers monday. Reply With Quote
Sep 16, 2022 | 20:42 2 7 days maybe Reply With Quote
Sep 16, 2022 | 20:53 3
Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
Wheat still testing 16%, (Canola testing 20%..LOL)

Couple 20C deg days on tap this weekend - can I blow that down into the 14s this time of yr within a couple days.

Showers monday.
With or without propane? Reply With Quote
Sep 16, 2022 | 20:59 4 Many factors to consider. Bin height, bin diameter, fan size, humidity etc. Couple days might be pushing it. If it goes in the bin warm your greatest gains are in the cool of the night. Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Sep 16, 2022 | 21:14 5
    Quote Originally Posted by foragefarmer View Post
    With or without propane?
    Without - using whatever mother nature provides for a few days. Reply With Quote
    biglentil's Avatar Sep 16, 2022 | 21:33 6 Canola womt come out the bin if 20% moisture after a few days air or no air. Best dumped in the tree row. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 16, 2022 | 22:21 7
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Wheat still testing 16%, (Canola testing 20%..LOL)

    Couple 20C deg days on tap this weekend - can I blow that down into the 14s this time of yr within a couple days.

    Showers monday.
    No not a chance Reply With Quote
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  • jazz's Avatar Sep 16, 2022 | 22:23 8
    Quote Originally Posted by biglentil View Post
    Canola womt come out the bin if 20% moisture after a few days air or no air. Best dumped in the tree row.
    Sorry meant the wheat. Canola is 2w away from even looking at. Reply With Quote
    Sep 16, 2022 | 23:23 9 16% is safe for now as long as you can cool it down to below 10 degrees than freeze it
    later when winter hits. Once froze you would likely be dry when you haul out. Reply With Quote
    Sep 17, 2022 | 06:59 10
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Sorry meant the wheat. Canola is 2w away from even looking at.
    no it won't with wheat , not a chance Reply With Quote
    Sep 17, 2022 | 07:31 11
    Quote Originally Posted by Sodbuster View Post
    16% is safe for now as long as you can cool it down to below 10 degrees than freeze it
    later when winter hits. Once froze you would likely be dry when you haul out.
    This sounds like best option. Reply With Quote
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  • jazz's Avatar Sep 17, 2022 | 08:10 12
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    This sounds like best option.
    Unfortunately we need the aeration bins for canola, so I cant tie one up keeping wheat at 10deg for another month.

    Guess we let it stand for another week. Reply With Quote
    Sep 17, 2022 | 08:26 13
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Unfortunately we need the aeration bins for canola, so I cant tie one up keeping wheat at 10deg for another month.

    Guess we let it stand for another week.
    If you have a couple weeks until canola could cool it down then move it to another bin before starting canola. 16 wheat is a blessing at my place most years. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 17, 2022 | 08:57 14
    Quote Originally Posted by blueversi View Post
    If you have a couple weeks until canola could cool it down then move it to another bin before starting canola. 16 wheat is a blessing at my place most years.
    Moisture is the phone call from a relative, heat is the relative standing at your door with two suitcases. Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 17, 2022 | 09:22 15 Keeping it cool all you can do.
    Cheapest dollar I spent were gauges on the plenum after the fan. Calibrated to each fan. Shows airflow decrease as bin fills. An eye opener. If you have the space, don't fill them. Reply With Quote
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    LEP

  • Sep 17, 2022 | 13:00 16 Lots of very dry canola taken off around here. Elevator somewhere might want so tough stuff to blend out Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2022 | 08:03 17 Has there ever been studies done, on bin row direction/fan position, for the most effective alinement for lower moisture of grain in the bin?

    - are positioning fans on the south side of a east-west bin row more effective in lowering grain moisture naturally, than fans on the north side?

    - are positioning fans on the north or east side of a bin row, better for cooling grain, without reducing moisture?

    Is there any measurable difference to fan effectiveness, regarding position on a bin? or bin row direction? Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2022 | 09:10 18
    Quote Originally Posted by beaverdam View Post
    Has there ever been studies done, on bin row direction/fan position, for the most effective alinement for lower moisture of grain in the bin?

    - are positioning fans on the south side of a east-west bin row more effective in lowering grain moisture naturally, than fans on the north side?

    - are positioning fans on the north or east side of a bin row, better for cooling grain, without reducing moisture?

    Is there any measurable difference to fan effectiveness, regarding position on a bin? or bin row direction?
    Air and grain can't read a compass but airflow in the center of grain mass would be the best outcome as would mixing the grain. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2022 | 13:15 19
    Quote Originally Posted by beaverdam View Post
    Has there ever been studies done, on bin row direction/fan position, for the most effective alinement for lower moisture of grain in the bin?

    - are positioning fans on the south side of a east-west bin row more effective in lowering grain moisture naturally, than fans on the north side?

    - are positioning fans on the north or east side of a bin row, better for cooling grain, without reducing moisture?

    Is there any measurable difference to fan effectiveness, regarding position on a bin? or bin row direction?
    Solar gain from the sun heats up objects, but don’t think it has any effect on air temperature. There was a solar collector around a few years ago that went in front of the fan and raised the temp a little.

    Solar collector would benefit from Southern exposure.

    Biggest heat gain would probably come from using fans that have the motor inside the fan and getting the heat from the motor. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2022 | 13:26 20
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    grain can't read a compass .
    Seen some sunflowers who would disagree with that statement.

    But otherwise, yes, irrelevant which direction the fans are facing. humidity is a bigger deal and will be consistent on any side of the bin.

    Unless of course you set up the black pipes on the fan inlet as one fellow had done a few years ago. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2022 | 13:39 21
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Seen some sunflowers who would disagree with that statement.

    But otherwise, yes, irrelevant which direction the fans are facing. humidity is a bigger deal and will be consistent on any side of the bin.

    Unless of course you set up the black pipes on the fan inlet as one fellow had done a few years ago.
    We used a 12 in corrugated plastic pipe 30 ft long on sun side to fan inlet . There was noticeable temp rise at the fan. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 18, 2022 | 23:16 22
    Quote Originally Posted by rumrocks View Post
    Moisture is the phone call from a relative, heat is the relative standing at your door with two suitcases.
    Relative humidity is the sweat that runs down the crack of your ass when your wife catches you with your sister in law. Reply With Quote
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  • jazz's Avatar Sep 19, 2022 | 06:38 23 Well leaving it stand for 2d did more than drying it in the bin would have done. Testing a full point lower yesterday. Showers are a dud looks like.

    Should go middle of the week I would hope. Found a dry patch of canola to work on.

    Sometimes doing nothing is the best decision. Reply With Quote