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Sep 12, 2022 | 10:30 31
Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Canada elects liberal govts 2 out of 3 times. Governed by them 2/3rds of our history.
Making a Conservative govt a protest vote by Central Canada. A broom to make the Liberals new again.
Doesn't matter today. The Prince has 3 more years. A lot can happen.
Then PP for a max of 7 and back to 10 years of what central Canada and the ever left of center liberal/NDP.
Power is not equal.
It will not matter.
Liberals deem themselves canadas naturally ruling party. Like you alluded they rule so long until their hubris gets the best of them. Periodically they bring in the NDP CCF or Progressives to hold power only to take them down with them when the tide turns. Wash rinse repeat. Trudeau and Singh will screw things up even more trying to hold power to the end. Polivierre will have time to cultivate the centre more so I think. In the meantime with Kenney gone the will in Alberta will be there along with Saskatchewan to firewall our provinces. If conservatives get in too soon this will be put on the back burner again. Reply With Quote
Sep 12, 2022 | 11:33 32
Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
Kenney gone the will in Alberta will be there along with Saskatchewan to firewall our provinces. If conservatives get in too soon this will be put on the back burner again.
Personally, I am cheering for the liberals and NDP to stay in power as long as possible, for the exact reason you just stated.
Nothing will change if an actual conservative gets elected.
The raping and pillaging of the West and the resource sectors will continue unabated, but at least they will be more polite about it, and it will delay the inevitable. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 12, 2022 | 21:53 33
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Personally, I am cheering for the liberals and NDP to stay in power as long as possible, for the exact reason you just stated.
    Nothing will change if an actual conservative gets elected.
    The raping and pillaging of the West and the resource sectors will continue unabated, but at least they will be more polite about it, and it will delay the inevitable.
    Almost swear Kenney was a federalist plant or something. I am not a separatist by any means but I’m a westerner and we need provincial governments which stick up for the provinces and not kiss hole to the feds. Don’t have to be extremist wackos but just stand up and protect what you represent. Reply With Quote
    Sep 13, 2022 | 07:03 34 Harper was a federalist plant too and you probably voted for him? LOL

    Do you think a Prime Minister Poilievre will encourage the provinces of perennial discontent to separate and break up the country?

    Did he run on breaking up the country?

    What are you guys smokin over their in the land of milk and money? Reply With Quote
    Sep 13, 2022 | 07:54 35
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    295,000 voted for Poilievre. Not even all the members his campaign signed up voted for him (over 300.000) That is a long way from the number of votes needed for Conservatives to win federally.

    Poilievre whose campaign was an attack ad against Trudeau, yet you are now worried about Liberal attacks on him given he has won the leadership? He set himself up for those attacks with crazy policy and associations.

    The really sad part is instead of voting for a government we want, Canadians are being told to vote against a personality. A sure fire way to get what you don't want.
    Good article in the National Post by Tristen Hopper:”FIRST READING:Poilievre didn’t just win the leadership, he really, really(really) won”

    “Against a personality”? Trudeau and his woke moronic policies is more than a personality! It was his lineage that got him the job, let’s be realistic!

    So the present Liberal government was voted in by just under 20% of eligible voters, you think that is what Canadians want? Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Sep 13, 2022 | 09:37 36 "The more you have the more others want to take from you". Human nature.
    So I'm gonna agree.
    Yes, we are in the land of milk and money. For now. And anyone who wants to take without earning it should really be looking down a barrel.
    I do not hate, or feel ashamed of where I live. Any individual disturbed enough to do so can leave for better parts.
    Just hired a guy from the Island.
    Loves the freedom and cheaper living here. Self employed too.
    Just the guy Chuck hates and just the kind we need. If you're not happy here, move. Chuck. Reply With Quote
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  • jazz's Avatar Sep 13, 2022 | 09:42 37 Chuck is the ultimate gatekeeper, keeping the country from tapping its true potential, regulating it to death. Reply With Quote

  • blackpowder's Avatar Sep 13, 2022 | 09:59 38 I definitely acknowledge we could do ever better on investing for the future.
    I believe a start would be to stop giving to those who just take. No future there.
    How many ways are there to say "f off"? Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 13, 2022 | 10:02 39 The provinces have powers they can take control of from the feds but choose not to for cost and convenience. Think Chuck being Chuck jumps down our throats calling separatist when we mention taking these powers back. It’s pure conditioned response. Dog whistles go both ways. Can understand weaker provinces do not have the means to do this but for us out here I feel it is imperative we do it to maintain what we have. It’s not about getting in pissing matches with the feds but it is about we are able to take care of ourselves and not have a completely different culture controlling us. Just as Quebec is insulated through their arrangement with Ottawa our western provinces are a different world from central Canada and must be protected. Doesn’t mean we are separatists any more than we roll over and let the feds do whatever they want to us. Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Sep 13, 2022 | 10:54 40 Hey chuck, hows that MMT going for you

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    Sep 13, 2022 | 12:32 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    Good article in the National Post by Tristen Hopper:”FIRST READING:Poilievre didn’t just win the leadership, he really, really(really) won”

    “Against a personality”? Trudeau and his woke moronic policies is more than a personality! It was his lineage that got him the job, let’s be realistic!

    So the present Liberal government was voted in by just under 20% of eligible voters, you think that is what Canadians want?
    Hamloc:
    Actually 62.3% of eligible voters voted and 32.62% of the votes were for Liberals = 20.3%
    62.3% of eligible voters cast 33.74% for Conservatives = 21.0% (not significantly different!)
    Really, is Conservatives what Canadians really want either? Reply With Quote
    Sep 13, 2022 | 13:40 42
    Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    The provinces have powers they can take control of from the feds but choose not to for cost and convenience. Think Chuck being Chuck jumps down our throats calling separatist when we mention taking these powers back. It’s pure conditioned response. Dog whistles go both ways. Can understand weaker provinces do not have the means to do this but for us out here I feel it is imperative we do it to maintain what we have. It’s not about getting in pissing matches with the feds but it is about we are able to take care of ourselves and not have a completely different culture controlling us. Just as Quebec is insulated through their arrangement with Ottawa our western provinces are a different world from central Canada and must be protected. Doesn’t mean we are separatists any more than we roll over and let the feds do whatever they want to us.
    Very well written post 👍👍 Reply With Quote
    Sep 13, 2022 | 13:43 43 Gosh elections aren’t determined on popular support. The naive assumptions of this here a funny. I’m directing this at lefties and righties alike. It is who riles up enough to go vote for them at election time. That is why political science is a fickle one like economics. Makes for great conversations and humbling moments afterwards. Reply With Quote
    jazz's Avatar Sep 13, 2022 | 14:37 44 Cant wait for the attack ads on PP. An orphaned child raised by a same sex couple in lower income calgary rises to become an MP now married to a latina wife who escaped communism in Venezuela. For sure white supremecist there.

    Makes Trudeau look like the silver spooned loser he always was. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 13, 2022 | 17:09 45
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Hamloc:
    Actually 62.3% of eligible voters voted and 32.62% of the votes were for Liberals = 20.3%
    62.3% of eligible voters cast 33.74% for Conservatives = 21.0% (not significantly different!)
    Really, is Conservatives what Canadians really want either?
    So PP doesn't have to swing any of the voters who are happy with Mr Trudeau.
    He just needs to get more of the 80% that didn't vote for JT.
    But the way our system is set up how many more does he have to get to win? Reply With Quote
    Sep 13, 2022 | 18:49 46 Pierre Poilievre's pragmatic protocol punishes pompous platitudes, preposterous perks, pretentious privilege and poisonous propaganda. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 13, 2022 | 19:18 47
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Harper was a federalist plant too and you probably voted for him? LOL

    Do you think a Prime Minister Poilievre will encourage the provinces of perennial discontent to separate and break up the country?

    Did he run on breaking up the country?

    What are you guys smokin over their in the land of milk and money?

    Canada, the most dysfunctional country - a country where one region detests the other region enough to destroy the country by destroying its sustinence. Hmmm Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 13, 2022 | 19:18 48 Only push button once, sorry.
    Last edited by sumdumguy; Sep 13, 2022 at 19:22.
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    jazz's Avatar Sep 13, 2022 | 19:41 49 Boy nice start to PP leadership from the child media. Hey chuck, here are your respected journos at work. Ever see them do that to Trudeau.

    People are waking up by the millions everyday to these fools. Good on PP for keeping composure.


    https://twitter.com/WeAreCanProud/status/1569780181618855938 Reply With Quote
    Sep 14, 2022 | 06:32 50 Without an election, Poilievere is already losing seats!

    "OTTAWA — Just three days into the job, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre lost an MP from his caucus on Tuesday, as prominent Quebec MP Alain Rayes announced he was leaving the party because he disagreed with its new direction." national post Reply With Quote
    Sep 14, 2022 | 06:42 51
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Without an election, Poilievere is already losing seats!

    "OTTAWA — Just three days into the job, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre lost an MP from his caucus on Tuesday, as prominent Quebec MP Alain Rayes announced he was leaving the party because he disagreed with its new direction." national post
    that should make you happy Reply With Quote
    Sep 14, 2022 | 07:19 52 Already called a Global journalist a "liberal heckler" because he was refusing to take questions at a press conference and was being asked why. Not a good look. In the end he allowed 2 questions.

    He must be afraid of answering questions. Why wouldn't Populist Polly not want an opportunity to tell Canadians what he stands for?

    Lost a progressive conservative MP in Quebec.

    All in all not a great start for the boy wonder prime minister in waiting. Reply With Quote
    Sep 14, 2022 | 07:28 53 It is sad that the so called conservatives have chosen a populist political hack for a leader. Reply With Quote
    Sep 14, 2022 | 07:30 54
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    It is sad that the so called conservatives have chosen a populist political hack for a leader.
    Yes, but sad for whom though? Chuck is already referring to pollievre as the prime minister in waiting. Does that mean the liberals are sad about their prospects now? Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Sep 14, 2022 | 08:03 55 Trudeau has lost 20 MPs over the yrs and they were all because of corruption or criminal activities.

    He has a sitting MP who is on recorded video destroying and stealing opponents campaign literature on peoples lawns and mail boxes.

    Funny how the term democratic and freedom has morphed into populism. More language rewrites by the 1984 crowd. Reply With Quote
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  • cropgrower's Avatar Sep 14, 2022 | 08:14 56 Name:  958CA076-8B63-41D4-838F-03E0261C9CD4.jpg
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  • Sep 14, 2022 | 08:28 57
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Already called a Global journalist a "liberal heckler" because he was refusing to take questions at a press conference and was being asked why. Not a good look. In the end he allowed 2 questions.

    He must be afraid of answering questions. Why wouldn't Populist Polly not want an opportunity to tell Canadians what he stands for?

    Lost a progressive conservative MP in Quebec.

    All in all not a great start for the boy wonder prime minister in waiting.
    If you were honest for once, why not talk about what actually happened? David Aiken told Pierre to go f himself. David Aiken was intentionally heckling and yelling while Pierre was making his opening remarks.

    The loss of the clown in Quebec is fine. If liberals want to leave the party, that is really, really good. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 14, 2022 | 08:56 58 Guys get pissy and leave parties all the time. Do you remember Jody Wilson, John Nunziata, Belinda Stronach? Grasp at some more straws. The Global guy going off like a petulant child is repugnant. Gives msm a black eye when distrust in them is at an all time high. Grow up and be journalists. Not a bunch of brats. Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Sep 14, 2022 | 09:20 59 Some cred to Akin for actually aplologizing, 99% of woke clowns and fake journos wouldnt do that.

    But on the other hands, he is Trudeaus own media mouth piece. He rides around on grope force one with Trudeau. Who starts asking questions and heckling before a politicians has even made their opening statement. Trudeau will get questions like what kind of ice cream he likes after a presser. Reply With Quote

  • cropgrower's Avatar Sep 14, 2022 | 12:23 60 yes a few weeks ago they were all whineing themselves when freeland got a few words thrown at her Reply With Quote
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