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Sep 10, 2022 | 13:40 31
Quote Originally Posted by GALAXIE500 View Post
I am one hour east of Medicine Hat, north of the # 1 hwy. We had 30 bu/acre of straw and about 15-20 bpa of durum going into the tank. That was summerfallow. Pea stubble , best I did was 14 , most was 11-12. Straw is cleaner at least , not a weed lovers paradise like last year. One or two more inches of rain were needed , when you start off with an empty soil profile.
Much the same in a big area east of here to Stoon and south . Reply With Quote
Sep 10, 2022 | 14:57 32
Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
Just a crazy guess ….



Red well below average
Blue average
Green above

In general ?? Minus pockets of good and bad ??
Canola yields 10-15% below crop insurance average in first 5 fields. Later seeded will be worse. NE sask in the green zone.
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Sep 10, 2022 | 19:28 33
Quote Originally Posted by Maver View Post
Canola yields 10-15% below crop insurance average in first 5 fields. Later seeded will be worse. NE sask in the green zone.
Well into the green zone here. It looked well above average is doing less than 10 year average.

There’s just a little something about real life experience and weighing the grain as it comes off the field that’s more accurate than satellites. Reply With Quote
Sep 10, 2022 | 20:47 34
Quote Originally Posted by quadtrac View Post
Well into the green zone here. It looked well above average is doing less than 10 year average.

There’s just a little something about real life experience and weighing the grain as it comes off the field that’s more accurate than satellites.
That's funny. Did you also say that before you let go of the steering wheel on your equipment that is guided by satellites? I'm not getting GPS - I'm more accurate than any satellite. There something about real life experience feeling the wheel in your hands and turning back to see if you were straight on the fence line.

Can you drive equipment straighter than the Satellite guided GPS?

Farmers will have zero input on crop yields until STATSCAN calls in November for a December release. In 2024 or 2025 - there will be no farmer input for production estimates - only satellite derived NDVI.

I'd challenge check off boards to reverse Ag Can's Satellite decision for the farmers you represent; however, I've seen how effective the consensus representation is with the Export Sales Reporting bylaws that were passed. Doesn't anyone have real life experience at those tables?

If you give me your RM - I will tell you what the NDVI index said for canola yield at the end of July - but it won't be until tomorrow. My shift is over for today.

If you don't want to do it publicly - shoot me a PM. Reply With Quote
Sep 10, 2022 | 21:15 35
Quote Originally Posted by LWeber View Post
That's funny. Did you also say that before you let go of the steering wheel on your equipment that is guided by satellites? I'm not getting GPS - I'm more accurate than any satellite. There something about real life experience feeling the wheel in your hands and turning back to see if you were straight on the fence line.

Can you drive equipment straighter than the Satellite guided GPS?

Farmers will have zero input on crop yields until STATSCAN calls in November for a December release. In 2024 or 2025 - there will be no farmer input for production estimates - only satellite derived NDVI.

I'd challenge check off boards to reverse Ag Can's Satellite decision for the farmers you represent; however, I've seen how effective the consensus representation is with the Export Sales Reporting bylaws that were passed. Doesn't anyone have real life experience at those tables?

If you give me your RM - I will tell you what the NDVI index said for canola yield at the end of July - but it won't be until tomorrow. My shift is over for today.

If you don't want to do it publicly - shoot me a PM.
Farm in several RM’s and have had satellite guided equipment since they came out with it and wouldn’t want to ever farm without it.

Just saying what’s being observed in real life vs satellite imagery from JULY.
July is quite awhile ago especially with the late crop in our area.

I’m aware it’s a pretty big world and our little area is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Just making a comment is all.
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  • Sep 10, 2022 | 22:33 36 Planter at 2.2 lbs / ac ..
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  • Sep 10, 2022 | 23:20 37 Don’t think any of us here doubt you Larry
    You one of very very few that speaks the truth on many fronts and actually knows what’s going on
    Maybe just farmer scepticism on this fancy satellite tech . But reality I think is showing with big crop areas falling short on combine yields in many areas
    Some are great for sure , many just not there
    And frustrating as hell as inputs continue to skyrocket Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2022 | 23:21 38 Well maybe Chuck would doubt you but that is seriously insignificant …. LOL Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2022 | 23:25 39
    Quote Originally Posted by LWeber View Post
    That's funny. Did you also say that before you let go of the steering wheel on your equipment that is guided by satellites? I'm not getting GPS - I'm more accurate than any satellite. There something about real life experience feeling the wheel in your hands and turning back to see if you were straight on the fence line.

    Can you drive equipment straighter than the Satellite guided GPS?

    Farmers will have zero input on crop yields until STATSCAN calls in November for a December release. In 2024 or 2025 - there will be no farmer input for production estimates - only satellite derived NDVI.

    I'd challenge check off boards to reverse Ag Can's Satellite decision for the farmers you represent; however, I've seen how effective the consensus representation is with the Export Sales Reporting bylaws that were passed. Doesn't anyone have real life experience at those tables?

    If you give me your RM - I will tell you what the NDVI index said for canola yield at the end of July - but it won't be until tomorrow. My shift is over for today.

    If you don't want to do it publicly - shoot me a PM.
    Rm 290.
    Can you check a 1/4? Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 06:17 40
    Quote Originally Posted by LWeber View Post
    That's funny. Did you also say that before you let go of the steering wheel on your equipment that is guided by satellites? I'm not getting GPS - I'm more accurate than any satellite. There something about real life experience feeling the wheel in your hands and turning back to see if you were straight on the fence line.

    Can you drive equipment straighter than the Satellite guided GPS?

    Farmers will have zero input on crop yields until STATSCAN calls in November for a December release. In 2024 or 2025 - there will be no farmer input for production estimates - only satellite derived NDVI.

    I'd challenge check off boards to reverse Ag Can's Satellite decision for the farmers you represent; however, I've seen how effective the consensus representation is with the Export Sales Reporting bylaws that were passed. Doesn't anyone have real life experience at those tables?

    If you give me your RM - I will tell you what the NDVI index said for canola yield at the end of July - but it won't be until tomorrow. My shift is over for today.

    If you don't want to do it publicly - shoot me a PM.
    Rm 456
    SE-22-48-12w2
    Combining it now Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 06:24 41 RM 437 NB
    NE 3 45 16 W3 …. Just finished last night
    NW 2 45 16 W3 Reply With Quote
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    Sep 11, 2022 | 07:12 42
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Don’t think any of us here doubt you Larry
    You one of very very few that speaks the truth on many fronts and actually knows what’s going on
    Maybe just farmer scepticism on this fancy satellite tech . But reality I think is showing with big crop areas falling short on combine yields in many areas
    Some are great for sure , many just not there
    And frustrating as hell as inputs continue to skyrocket
    I think technology will get there eventually. I think it is at a stage similar to environment Canada's radar. Supposedly updated to the best available. We all have experienced situations where it was supposed to be raining according to the radar and not even close. Reply With Quote
    jazz's Avatar Sep 11, 2022 | 07:25 43 Not a shot at Larry or anyone, but the utility of any tech is massively overstated in every industry and that will include satellite remote sensing.

    For example; there are literally thousands of quants working algos in various equity markets using infinitely more data points than something NDVI would give and they cant even get the pricing right.

    If anything, tech like NDVI will just bring more volatility to the markets. Just another estimate that will need revision 3 months later. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 07:35 44 The truck drivers hauling the grain to the bin can give you a pretty dam good reading on the yield. Ones out this way don't look overly tired from haulin grain. Wish I could have some of that water overage from this spring for the canola and oats-sorghum mix. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 08:21 45 Finished our first field of canola last night. This was my best crop all year. Came up even. Did have some hail damage, very minor I thought, it did show up on the yield monitor though. Swathing it I couldn’t go much over 4 mph, wouldn’t go through the hole any faster on my Challenger swather. Long story short I was pretty optimistic after swathing it. Weighed it all through the cart, low 40s was all it yielded. So yes looked like 60, yielded just over 40.

    I am curious, I had a pretty good view out the swather window and I was way off. Regardless how clear a picture you get from a satellite how are you going to be any more correct than I was? I was sure it would go 50 bushels at least.
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  • Sep 11, 2022 | 09:15 46 The weird thing I’ve found with the canola this year is the stand is large, pods are long, and seeds are huge but yield is no bin buster. I thought it was just me but judging by what you guys on here are saying I don’t feel like a shitty farmer. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2022 | 12:34 47
    Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    The weird thing I’ve found with the canola this year is the stand is large, pods are long, and seeds are huge but yield is no bin buster. I thought it was just me but judging by what you guys on here are saying I don’t feel like a shitty farmer.
    It’s the same in many many areas
    Main stem pod abortion hurts yield no matter what anyone says . Fact of canola plant growth during early flowering and moisture stress .
    Areas that had even just one timely rain during the dry stretch are doing very well , like Paynton , Meota Turtleford

    Many areas went 15-20 days without a significant rain and near zero subsoil to carry the plant growth that was there
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    Sep 11, 2022 | 14:59 48 Most years by this time we would have put our equipment away. We’ve been done on Labour Day several years. This year, the lentils are so crappy that we are waiting for the green pods to fill. We haven’t even started Canola yet. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 15:04 49
    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Most years by this time we would have put our equipment away. We’ve been done on Labour Day several years. This year, the lentils are so crappy that we are waiting for the green pods to fill. We haven’t even started Canola yet.
    Hopefully everything filled well for you
    The early harvested crops here were not great Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 15:20 50 I've been trying to be optimistic about canola yields here. I know the excess rain in June into early July did irrepairable damage, and complete drownouts. Very little rain and above average temps ever since it quit raining. Miraculously, some areas came back to look decent.
    Most is still very green. Flea beetles had a hayday when it was so cold that canola couldn't grow fast enough to keep up. Some light frosts so far, not fatal. Needs a lot of time yet.

    Areas that didn't drown out look good from the road, waves, very dense.

    But when I look up close, lots of missing pods, deformed pods, very short pods, some later branches are huge, but have no pods at all.

    I'm usually pessimistic about canola at this time of year ( except last year with no rain, when all the canola looked tremendous all season), so maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see breaking any records this year, even without including the drownouts.

    I thought I had missed the invigor problems, since it was out of the ground and progressing as it should. But once it started flowering, all early flowers aborted, and it wasn't even hot. All season, it just didn't seem to have the vigor that it is famous for. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 16:59 51 One common theme arising is in areas with limited moisture but good lookin crops is that any weed pressure at all , even minimal , yields drop significantly more than other years Reply With Quote
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    Sep 11, 2022 | 17:05 52 We had a field of wheat that had Persian Darnel , didn’t realize and sprayed for wild oats.lost 10 b/a Next year everything gets achieve. Costly mistake Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2022 | 17:50 53 The new weed of the year in some areas here is barnyard grass.
    Anywhere that was thinned by excess rain is overrun with it. Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 11, 2022 | 18:36 54 No surprise for me here.
    Canopy top had no lean. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2022 | 21:54 55
    Quote Originally Posted by shtferbrains View Post
    The new weed of the year in some areas here is barnyard grass.
    Anywhere that was thinned by excess rain is overrun with it.
    Man i wish there was a market for that crap on wet years. Infestation! Reply With Quote
    Sep 12, 2022 | 07:32 56 36 booshel ta da aca is all da hoots are getin.
    I was shocked to hear that when I asked. Usually it’s 56. Pretty much tells you what size this crop is.

    The heat to da yield boyzs.

    Others I’m hearing 20-25

    12-15 is also quite common.

    But overall she’s a whopper … whopper with cheese. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 12, 2022 | 08:28 57
    Quote Originally Posted by BTO780 View Post
    36 booshel ta da aca is all da hoots are getin.
    I was shocked to hear that when I asked. Usually it’s 56. Pretty much tells you what size this crop is.

    The heat to da yield boyzs.

    Others I’m hearing 20-25

    12-15 is also quite common.

    But overall she’s a whopper … whopper with cheese.
    Tell others not to post yields, yet there you are posting yields? Reply With Quote
    Sep 12, 2022 | 11:37 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Freightshaker View Post
    Tell others not to post yields, yet there you are posting yields?
    Did I post 50 and 70??!!!!!
    You know everyone do what you want. It’s all about egos and a pissing match. Reply With Quote
    Sep 12, 2022 | 14:09 59 There is quite a difference between 15-20 to 65-70, heh? No big bumpers here that I’ve heard of. Many lentils less than 10 bushels, that I know for sure. Could be the end of lentil growing around us. Guess 42 years was a good run. Rolling them and breaking the stem while you pack them in like they are growing in pavement will spell the end of a good thing. Throw in 11 inches of torrential downpours and tout fini. Reply With Quote
    Sep 12, 2022 | 14:09 60 Very little rain from about July 10 to 30th give or take a day with near zero sub soil drastically reduced yields Reply With Quote