Test Electric vehicles Test

Rural Issues

Tools

Electric vehicles

Test
Sep 8, 2022 | 07:31 31
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
Still using a party line A5. Two rings or one?

When you get a chance talk to A4 or did you forget he seems to think EVs are the way of the future? He must be a marxist! LOL
Seriously, revisit your track record on this topic. According to your predictions, we should have commercially available solid state battery EVs, EVs cheaper than ICE, solar and wind cheaper than fossil fuels, etc.

And why would you keep bringing A4 into the discussion after he keeps tearing apart your EV delusions? Reply With Quote
Sep 8, 2022 | 07:56 32
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
Seriously, revisit your track record on this topic. According to your predictions, we should have commercially available solid state battery EVs, EVs cheaper than ICE, solar and wind cheaper than fossil fuels, etc.

And why would you keep bringing A4 into the discussion after he keeps tearing apart your EV delusions?
This is the thing Chuck doesn’t have an EV while AB4 does. Who will you believe? Reply With Quote

  • Sep 8, 2022 | 09:44 33
    Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    This is the thing Chuck doesn’t have an EV while AB4 does. Who will you believe?
    Actually have a plug in hybrid. Good EV range for a commuter and gas ICE for long distance. Reply With Quote
  • 1 Like


  • Sep 8, 2022 | 09:53 34
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Seriously, revisit your track record on this topic. According to your predictions, we should have commercially available solid state battery EVs, EVs cheaper than ICE, solar and wind cheaper than fossil fuels, etc.

    And why would you keep bringing A4 into the discussion after he keeps tearing apart your EV delusions?
    You are impatient and testy to boot. A4 seems to think his Tesla works well. But you don't have one? Jealous?

    Its a transition and an evolution to cleaner tech. Its going to take time. But don't let that stop you from predicting it will never work. You the oracle of Alberta can predict the future with certainty?

    Wind and solar are already some of the cheapest forms of generation in many places. But you always blame renewables for increased costs but never provide any numbers to back up your opinion. It would never be higher gas and coal prices, or market forces, deregulation or system costs that are rising?

    We are waiting again on the oracle to provide the hard evidence which never seems to arrive! LOL Reply With Quote
    Sep 8, 2022 | 10:07 35
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    You are impatient and testy to boot. A4 seems to think his Tesla works well. But you don't have one? Jealous?

    Its a transition and an evolution to cleaner tech. Its going to take time. But don't let that stop you from predicting it will never work. You the oracle of Alberta can predict the future with certainty?

    Wind and solar are already some of the cheapest forms of generation in many places. But you always blame renewables for increased costs but never provide any numbers to back up your opinion. It would never be higher gas and coal prices, or market forces, deregulation or system costs that are rising?

    We are waiting again on the oracle to provide the hard evidence which never seems to arrive! LOL
    Chuck, you can be a very frustrating student at times. Occasionally you have a breakthrough and it is so rewarding. You finally use the proper disclaimer that wind and solar can be cheaper forms of generation. It is only when you try to turn that unpredictable unreliable generation source into something usable at the same time and place as the demand is taking place. It would be as if I claim that my irrigation system is really really cheap when it rains everyday.

    Keep up the good work.

    And for the record, you have given specific timelines for solid state batteries in cars in the past. And those have long since elapsed. Reply With Quote
    Sep 8, 2022 | 12:09 36
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Actually have a plug in hybrid. Good EV range for a commuter and gas ICE for long distance.
    Fair enough I stand corrected. Reply With Quote
    Sep 8, 2022 | 13:04 37
    Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    Fair enough I stand corrected.
    Must spend a lot of time in City traffic compared to the average farmer to make a plug-in hybrid worthwhile. They are most definitely a good fit for stop and go commuter traffic. But the experience of anyone I know who has tried one who lives in the countryside, has been that they are of no use for this purpose.
    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 8, 2022 at 13:11.
    Reply With Quote
    Sep 8, 2022 | 19:42 38
    Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    Fair enough I stand corrected.
    Do you actually believe anything cukcuk says? Reply With Quote
  • 1 Like


  • Sep 8, 2022 | 21:40 39
    Quote Originally Posted by TSIPP View Post
    Do you actually believe anything cukcuk says?
    Considering that his neighbours have proven that he doesn't even have the infamous solar panels he claims to have. Of course I believe he is a capitalist farmer with a plug in hybrid... Reply With Quote
  • 1 Like


  • Sep 9, 2022 | 06:57 40 Now some of the agrislly brainiacs are back to I don't have solar panels nor a plug in hybrid! LOL

    And plug in hybrids don't work in rural areas? Huh. Even though trips to town can be easily to covered by their battery range?

    They are a better fit in the city for sure, where its possible to use them primarily as an EV but you can do a lot of driving within the battery range in rural areas.

    So contrary to the resident contrarian they work fine and can be an efficient option. Reply With Quote
    jazz's Avatar Sep 9, 2022 | 07:09 41 If chuck and his clueless crew have their way, we will all be huddling around candles for heat.

    The EV scam is the 3rd biggest hoax perpetuated on the public in history, a close runner up to climate change and covid.

    Fords new EV truck has a range of 85km pulling any sort of load. Wow progress, my F150 can go almost all the way to Calgary without a fill, in the winter time yet. Reply With Quote
    Sep 9, 2022 | 07:24 42 Jazz maybe you will meet A4 in his "scam" Tesla in Calgary.

    By the way how is your bitcoin investment doing? LOL

    And Trump is still President! Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 9, 2022 | 07:31 43 And when my hired man can buy a used ev for $2000 and keep it running with spare parts they have arrived. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 9, 2022 | 12:44 44 Just happens we are trying out a hybrid Jeep Rubicon. You plug it in for 14 hours and you can drive for free for @bout 22 km. It’s kinda cool. You can sneak outta the garage without anyone or anything hearing you. It would be awasome for city slickers who just go to work and back home. We are glad to have a tank of petrol for back-up or we would never get to Saskatoon. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 9, 2022 | 14:16 45
    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Just happens we are trying out a hybrid Jeep Rubicon. You plug it in for 14 hours and you can drive for free for @bout 22 km. It’s kinda cool. You can sneak outta the garage without anyone or anything hearing you. It would be awasome for city slickers who just go to work and back home. We are glad to have a tank of petrol for back-up or we would never get to Saskatoon.
    Are you plugging it into your neighbors outlet, and letting them pay the power bill?
    Not sure how else the 14 hours of charging is free?
    Or do you have a current bush to plug into? Reply With Quote
  • 1 Like


  • Sep 9, 2022 | 16:14 46
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Are you plugging it into your neighbors outlet, and letting them pay the power bill?
    Not sure how else the 14 hours of charging is free?
    Or do you have a current bush to plug into?
    Moses’ burning current bush like someone’s perpetual motion machine 🐔🐔 Reply With Quote
    Sep 9, 2022 | 17:22 47
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    And when my hired man can buy a used ev for $2000 and keep it running with spare parts they have arrived.
    That's the part of the whole plan that I don't think is recognized.

    If the mostly run out EV only has 50km range how are the people running the 200k+ on the odometer going to get around.

    Will a large part of society go back to the 50's where you never went more than 20 miles from home?

    Used to be a gas station every 6 miles along the highway. Now charging stations? Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 10, 2022 | 07:28 48 Never been, but I see a little bit of Cuba in our rural future, or Mad Max.
    Especially when public transit is promoted for all. Reply With Quote
  • 1 Like


  • Sep 10, 2022 | 07:33 49 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/international-business/article-gm-maps-a-slow-rollout-for-its-affordable-ev/

    General Motors Co GM-N +1.95%increase
    said Thursday the Chevrolet Equinox, one of the least expensive of its new generation of electric vehicles for North America, will go on sale in the fall of 2023 priced above the company’s $30,000 target.

    The car, which shares the Equinox name with a gasoline-burning Chevrolet compact utility vehicle, is one of three new EVs GM has said it plans to launch that season for the brand in North America.

    GM Chief Executive Mary Barra has focused on the Equinox as an “affordable” electric SUV with a starting price of about $30,000, less than half the starting price of Tesla Inc’s Model Y.

    In a statement, Barra said the Equinox showed GM could offer electric vehicles “at nearly every price point and for every purpose.”

    However, the first electric Equinox will be a limited edition 2RS model with an estimated range of 300 miles priced above $30,000, Chevrolet said. The $30,000 1LT version will be launched later.

    The electric Equinox models will be assembled in Mexico. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2022 | 07:38 50 And the negative nellies on Agrisilly said it couldn't be possible to have an EV at an affordable price! GM is about to prove them wrong again. LOL

    Sounds like the Equinox EV will be a third of the cost of a loaded up pickup truck. The preferred over priced, over marketed, luxury vehicle of well off farmers and city dwellers. Whether they need one or not. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2022 | 08:21 51 Chuck, your comprehension skills are lacking
    The article says they couldn't achieve the $30,000 price tag. That it will be more than that, with no clue how much more. And as usual for your "evidence", the promised 30,000 vehicle will be at some unspecified time in the future.

    I ask again, do you ever exist in the present time, or only in future hypothetical scenarios, or in far outdated studies? Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 10, 2022 | 08:23 52 Good to see EVs became affordable finally, as they would.
    The price of popular vehicles is demand driven.
    I've always been thrifty out of necessity myself.
    But what's always troubling is your desire to determine what others need. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2022 | 08:32 53 My comprehension is good but yours seems lacking. "The $30,000 1LT version will be launched later" But that's not good enough? LOL

    Never said anything about forcing anyone to choose an EV. Consumers are lined up to buy them and can't find them, even at the sky high prices.

    But it must be disheartening for the Oracle of Alberta to see EVs become affordable even though he said that would never ever happen. Never is a long time! Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2022 | 09:23 54 Chuck, bookmark this thread. Then in the future, when GM is selling their $30,000 electric SUV, you are welcome to come back and prove me wrong. And I will humbly accept that I was wrong, and apologize.

    Every time I pick on you, I give you an out such as this. What it would take to prove me wrong. This should be so easy on your part. This is the difference between ideology, and knowledge. i know what it would take to change my mind.

    Countless examples, and you never do meet the challenge. Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Sep 10, 2022 | 09:39 55 30 k my butt.
    Can't buy a used vehicle for that.
    Plus GM LOL... Reply With Quote
  • 1 Like


  • Sep 11, 2022 | 00:13 56 We all enjoy making fun of Chuck and his anti science rants.
    But he is in good company, and when you read and listen to what other climate cultists say, you can understand where Chuck gets his delusional beliefs from.

    Such as the Australian PM stating that Aussies can use the solar panels on their roofs to charge their electric cars at night. And I will bet that there is a significant portion of the population who believes that this is possible.

    And these people are making energy policy that affects us all. What could possibly go wrong when the leader thinks we can use solar power at night?

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1568557345525104640 Reply With Quote
    Landdownunder's Avatar Sep 11, 2022 | 01:49 57 He’s a absolute dill but in his defence the PM corrected himself about 30 seconds later realizing his mistake, you need batteries with your soak system of course.

    Just on that batteries are expensive at the time 5 to 10 k

    But the govt would subsidise it errr so of course battery suppliers Jack the price up…..

    Anyway I ummed and arrred about solar system was gonna be 30k all up for my house hindsight wish I did it two reason grid power gone up but solar systems have doubled in price which has lead to many things.

    One solar companies going bust cause people can’t afford new systems. Two govt hasn’t worked out a new tax yet to help situation. 3 a electric vehicle tax is going to have to be implemented some time to replace fuel taxes.

    People complain about increasing costs of solar systems, the greens reply it’s just keep pace with fossil fuel price increases and manufacturing costs due to rise in electricity and gas and lithium for home batteries.

    Can of worms catch 22 my head spins Reply With Quote