Happy Chuck?

[chuckChuck]

Farmers should stick to farming and let the planners and engineers at the utilities figure out how to integrate renewables with reliable base load sources and lower carbon emissions.

Or do you think electrical engineers and the utilities should run your farm?

When idiots like Jazz start complaining about inter ties with other electricity producing regions which strengthens the supply, you gotta wonder what all the fuss is about.

More Inter ties with Manitoba hydro would probably make more sense than going down the nuclear road for a small province. Manitoba has surplus hydro most of which is sent to the US. Why not send some more to Saskatchewan?

Moe and company want to play politics like subsiding carbon capture when coal is on the way out. And use Saskatchewan uranium, when nuclear is one of the most expensive options and SMRs are not even close to being ready, or the lowest cost option.

Again it looks like the fossil energy and the uranium mining industry are successful lobbyists and Curly Moe is letting them have alot of influence over policy.

[chuckChuck]

So going back to the balanced basket of energy sources. The only renewable which is most reliable and adjust output the quickest is hydro. For non renewables LNG is most responsive. Apparently nuclear isn’t as flexible hence the need for multiple sources to backfill demand spikes. Europe is screwed because they let the radicals dictate energy policy and now old dogs are coming home to roost.

But Putin attacks on Ukraine has nothing to do with the energy crisis in Europe? Or did you forget about that already? LOL. Amnesia? Or just the usual political views?

[chuckChuck]

AESO pool price yesterday for electricity: On Peak was 24.17 cents per kilowatt, Off Peak was 7.74 cents. This does not include transmission and distribution charges. All this new renewable energy coming online in Alberta is definitely making power more affordable, NOT!!

What's wrong? You don't like a free market less regulated electrcity supply in Alberta?

Its much cheaper in regulated Saskatchewan. But you got what you deserve.

[jazz]

You just dont get it chuck, do you. Looks like your love of the CWB has fried your grey matter.

Sask has identified a need for 650MW of extra generation. Isnt that weird, Sask population has not grown much but after 5 yrs of switch out coal and trying pathetic renewables, we still need more power.

But instead of building that here, they have to import it to get around your stupid carbon policies. That would have meant another Shand or Poplar River sized plant and all the spin offs from that. Hell maybe even a hydro project at Deif or god forbid a nuclear plant.

And for your information SMRs have been on submarines for 40 yrs.

You are a total loon.

[Hamloc]

What's wrong? You don't like a free market less regulated electrcity supply in Alberta?

Its much cheaper in regulated Saskatchewan. But you got what you deserve.

Actually Chuck2 the high cost of electricity is the result of government policy both federal and provincial. The forced early retirement of our coal generation plants by the former Notley government initiated the process. We have some hydro and some biomass, a little bit of coal. Predominately our electricity(about 70%) comes from Natural gas. Then some wind and solar. AESO supply demand right now at 8:25 am. Solar 991 mwh capacity generating 190. Wind 2389 mwh generating capacity generating 648. Coal 1266 mwh generating capacity. Generating 1258. Natural gas 10828 mwh capacity generating 6496.

Natural gas prices are way up as you know. Hence the higher cost of electricity. Our coal plants all had their own captive supply and much greater control over generation costs. As you will point out renewables have low generation costs once installed but they are a much less dependable source of generation. You knock Alberta’s less regulated generation system but can you tell me the up to the minute electrical generation and consumption in Saskatchewan? It is government owned and run, it therefore must be more transparent! Please show me the SaskPower website that shows me the equivalent of the AESO supply and demand page?!

[WiltonRanch]

But Putin attacks on Ukraine has nothing to do with the energy crisis in Europe? Or did you forget about that already? LOL. Amnesia? Or just the usual political views?

Domestic energy security duh!! You wear your partisanship and amnesia on your sleeve better than I. When you hamstring your domestic energy production in favour of dealing with bad actors what do you think eventually happens? Like selling out your domestic manufacturing and shipping it off to a communist nation bent on world domination. Heck I’m sounding like my old socialist Facebook friend on an anti globalization tirade. I think a lot of us relate to where we stand on stuff but where do you aside against everything here?

[shtferbrains]

I'm all for interconnect access if we had some forrward thinking politicians who would make the investment and take the heat on developing our hydro potential.
We could buy cheap surplus renewable solar from the desert states where it is well suited and sell high priced renewable hydro down there in peak 4pm to 7pm times.
It is unfortunate hydro gets so much bad press when being proposed and built but end up showing many legacy benefits.
Would be nothing in the SW desert in Nevada and Arizona without the dams on the Colorado River.

[TSIPP]

60 years ago the US had a small nuclear reactor in Greenland, it did leak a little but I’m pretty sure the new model won’t.

[dmlfarmer]

60 years ago the US had a small nuclear reactor in Greenland, it did leak a little but I’m pretty sure the new model won’t.

Since nuclear reactors safely power US submarines and aircraft carriers today, why is it not possible to generate electricity with them on land?

[WiltonRanch]

Since nuclear reactors safely power US submarines and aircraft carriers today, why is it not possible to generate electricity with them on land?

See there’s a logical and reasonable argument right there. The loons will reference incidents like three mile island and Chernobyl which resulted from “the China Syndrome” and of course communist incompetence.

[jazz]

Since nuclear reactors safely power US submarines and aircraft carriers today, why is it not possible to generate electricity with them on land?

It is possible, has been for decades but a little organization called GreenPeace made sure nothing nuclear got built.

[WiltonRanch]

It is possible, has been for decades but a little organization called GreenPeace made sure nothing nuclear got built.

Yes, and biggest boosters of this nonsense reside in temperate regions with smaller landbases and higher population densities. A lot of their energy needs are met from importation of cheap energy. Remember old Peter Prebble? Most ardent anti nuke ndp mla college professor. He typified the type.

[chuckChuck]

Add Chernobyl and Fukishima to the list of why new nuclear energy is not too popular.

Why build new nuclear in Saskatchewan when next door there is a significant source of hydro ready and waiting?

Manitoba and Quebec have some of the lowest cost electricity in North America because of their large hydro capacity.

Nuclear may have a role, but SMRs are still in the design phase and many years from implementation.

Nuclear is one of the most expensive options according Lazards levelized cost of energy analysis LCOE

https://www.lazard.com/media/451881/lazards-levelized-cost-of-energy-version-150-vf.pdf

[WiltonRanch]

Add Chernobyl and Fukishima to the list of why new nuclear energy is not too popular.

Why build new nuclear in Saskatchewan when next door there is a significant source of hydro ready and waiting?

Manitoba and Quebec have some of the lowest cost electricity in North America because of their large hydro capacity.

Nuclear may have a role, but SMRs are still in the design phase and many years from implementation.

Nuclear is one of the most expensive options according Lazards levelized cost of energy analysis LCOE

https://www.lazard.com/media/451881/lazards-levelized-cost-of-energy-version-150-vf.pdf

Right enough. Though if we truly transition from coal and decarbonize demand for electricity will grow exponentially. Nuclear and hydro complement one another as demand spikes are easily covered by hydro with reactors setup by hydro dams for water. While wind farms could power green ammonia production while sequestering co2 making urea. Then it doesn’t really matter about the intermittency of renewables. Not likely it’s happening on any scale anytime soon but it’s alright to brainstorm.

[chuckChuck]

Right enough. Though if we truly transition from coal and decarbonize demand for electricity will grow exponentially. Nuclear and hydro complement one another as demand spikes are easily covered by hydro with reactors setup by hydro dams for water. While wind farms could power green ammonia production while sequestering co2 making urea. Then it doesn’t really matter about the intermittency of renewables. Not likely it’s happening on any scale anytime soon but it’s alright to brainstorm.

Alberta is investing large amounts in wind and solar relatively speaking. They are leading the growth in renewables in Canada.

The UK and Australia also have a lot of renewables and the US and China, India have as well.

It will be a mix of all types of generating capacity for the forseeable future. Much will depend on each regions resources and needs.

But lets end the fiction that renewables are not going to play an important role in a low carbon energy future.

its already happening right under our noses in Alberta Saskatchewan and the USA. And we already have 60% of our electricity from hydro which is renewable as well.

Looks like there are a lot of chucks out there with their own renewable supply on farm. What a bunch of radicals investing in there own energy production! LOL

https://capi-icpa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2022-07-25-Ag-Census_QuickThink_Draft_7-Final_reduced.pdf

• From 2016 to 2021, the number of farms who
report producing (and often using) some
type of renewable energy has increased in
every province, for a countrywide increase
from 10,000 farms to 20,000 farms.

The number of farms reporting the
production (and sometimes, use) of solar
energy increased from 8,000 in 2016 to
14,000 in 2021.
• Solar energy is more common in the Prairies.
Some areas have more than doubled in the
number of farms reporting solar energy
production, from 200 farms to over 400
farms per census division.