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    #16
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    Another poorly thought out policy by our global retards.

    China could destroy Taiwan with out firing a shot. Just blockade all the high quality silica sand imports. Chip industry dies.
    Plenty sand elsewhere

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      #17
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      Another poorly thought out policy by our global retards.

      China could destroy Taiwan with out firing a shot. Just blockade all the high quality silica sand imports. Chip industry dies.
      China needs Taiwanese chips, no other country is even in the same ballpark when it comes to how far advanced Taiwan is in their manufacturing, look it up. If China does invade then Taiwan will destroy all facilities. If china hinders the chip industry in any way, it will hurt china just as hard as the rest of the world. If you thought that the supply chain issues were bad before then look out.

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        #18
        TSMC is integrated with world wide suppliers and if China invaded production would stop period. Not in China's interest to invade . Coercion and threatening is the weapon of choice
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          #19
          Well Pelosi reckless visit kicked off 3d of Chinese military drills around the island including ballistic hypersonics never seen before.

          Pretty clear they could blockade that entire island and no sand would get through.

          This is stupid to risk ww3 for a Chinese province smaller than a national park. And I am no china defender. The best way to handle them was to stop trading with them. Instead we have armed them for conflict.

          Another globalist govt fck up in play.

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            #20
            And MSN had the sheeple beieving trump would start the next war????

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              #21
              Originally posted by caseih View Post
              And MSN had the sheeple beieving trump would start the next war????
              Yup , zero major conflict under Trump .
              Now before I get called a Trump lover , cause some here will instantly do that , I am not , but just pointing out a fact

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                #22
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Yup , zero major conflict under Trump .
                Now before I get called a Trump lover , cause some here will instantly do that , I am not , but just pointing out a fact
                Trump denoted strength to tyrants abroad because he appeared a bit unhinged like they are. Never hurts to have a poker face. The geriatric joke of a president and nothing burger of Vice President are perceived to be weak and predictable. They suck.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                  Trump denoted strength to tyrants abroad because he appeared a bit unhinged like they are. Never hurts to have a poker face. The geriatric joke of a president and nothing burger of Vice President are perceived to be weak and predictable. They suck.
                  Have to agree, Trump was easily ready to tell Putin to phuck off, and know he may not be joking. While the MSM made it out to be a love fest between the two , I think there was respect for the insanity they both have. Good or bad , it kept peace , didn't it?

                  Now had anyone in a leadership role in Canada would have been paying attention, Canada could have easily capitalized on that relationship. Canada didn't. But many others will.

                  Thinking that a LNG plant shows up in days like Freeland has implied , to most with any kind of intelligence, shows Canada has missed the opportunity.

                  Sadly most Canadians think its like a LEGO set and it appears overnight.

                  If Canada would have starting building these things under Harper we would just be coming on stream with LNG now.

                  Maybe other countries can do it faster with les environment interference, but we have a whole lot of loons to deal with.
                  Last edited by bucket; Aug 5, 2022, 19:21.

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                    #24
                    With all the coal plants in Alberta running on nat gas it’s probably a good thing Canada isnt exporting lpg on ships.

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                      #25
                      ChiComs, have used Pelosi's visit to practice "real" war games in the Taiwan Strait, which she was warned would happen.
                      But now the ChiComs are straight up saying, screw your glowball warming crap, we're not gonna slowdown using coal, and BTW, we're not going to worry about our criminals shipping fentanyl into your country either. (that would go for Canada too)

                      Apparently Brandon asked Pelosi not to go, but she wanted it for her legacy or something.

                      Many now are saying the ChiComs will attack/repatriate Taiwan within the next 18 months,,, using Pelosi's visit as the reason. They will do this before Brandon's term is up.
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                      from CNN;
                      "The news follows a series of military drills that China has carried out around Taiwan since Thursday after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s controversial visit to the self-governing democratic island earlier this week.

                      The Chinese Communist Party views Taiwan as its territory, despite never having controlled it, and has long vowed to “reunify” the island with the Chinese mainland – by force if necessary.

                      Pelosi ignored its furious opposition to her visit by landing in Taipei on Tuesday evening as part of a larger Asia tour that wrapped up Friday with a last stop in Japan.

                      But the full ramifications of her visit are only now emerging, with China ramping up military exercises in the skies and waters around Taiwan and halting cooperation with the US on various issues.

                      On Friday, 68 Chinese warplanes were reported in the Taiwan Strait, according to Taiwan’s Defense Ministry. Of those, 49 entered Taiwan’s air defense identification zone – a buffer of airspace commonly referred to as an ADIZ. That was just a few planes short of the record set last year when 56 Chinese warplanes entered the ADIZ on the same day.

                      Nineteen of the warplanes on Friday also crossed the median line dividing the Taiwan Strait, the ministry said.

                      On Thursday, China launched 11 ballistic missiles – some of which flew over the island of Taiwan and landed in Japan’s Exclusive Economic Zone, prompting Tokyo to lodge a formal complaint with Beijing. That was the first time China had sent missiles over the island.

                      Also on Thursday, two Chinese drones flew near Japan’s Okinawa prefecture, prompting Japan’s Air Self-Defense Force to scramble fighter jets in response.

                      The drills are scheduled to last until Sunday local time in Beijing, according to Chinese state media."


                      Diplomatic fallout

                      The deteriorating situation in the Taiwan Strait has caused a diplomatic storm, with China lashing out against countries that have criticized its exercises and some regional powers calling for de-escalation.

                      Tensions ran high at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) meeting of foreign ministers in Cambodia this week, where members had originally expected to discuss three main topics: the Myanmar crisis, the South China Sea, and the war in Ukraine.

                      But Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan added “a fourth hot stone … which has led to heated discussions about cross-strait relations,” said Cambodia’s Foreign Minister Prak Sokhonn at a Saturday news conference in Phnom Penh.

                      Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken both attended the ASEAN meeting; on Thursday, Wang decried Pelosi’s visit as demonstrating the “bankruptcy” of US politics and credibility, calling it “manic, irresponsible and highly irrational behavior.”

                      A day later, after Beijing fired its missiles over Taiwan, Blinken said China had “chosen to overreact and use Speaker Pelosi’s visit as a pretext to increase provocative military activity in and around the Taiwan Strait.”

                      On Saturday, Sokhonn described the meeting as lively, saying he had to call all ministers to speak in a calm, dignified, polite, civilized and diplomatic manner.

                      “There were strong arguments, but in our opinion, it’s much better that we exchange words than less friendly means,” he said.

                      Japan and other G7 economies have urged China to halt its military drills and maintain the status quo in the region.

                      Beijing has not heeded those calls. Instead, it has responded by canceling future phone calls between Chinese and US defense leaders and annual naval meetings between the two countries. It has also canceled planned meetings between Chinese and Japanese officials.

                      China has also summoned the ambassadors of the US, Japan and various European countries.

                      On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry announced a raft of countermeasures against the US, including sanctions against Pelosi and her immediate family.

                      China also suspended bilateral climate talks and shelved cooperation on issues including the repatriation of illegal immigrants and the investigation of transnational crimes and drug operations.


                      “We should not hold hostage cooperation on matters of global concern because of differences between our two countries,” Blinken told reporters on Saturday, speaking in Manila, the capital of the Philippines.

                      China’s decision to suspend climate talks “could have lasting consequences for the future of the region, the future of our planet,” and would punish the developing world rather than the US, he added.

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                      Last edited by beaverdam; Aug 6, 2022, 07:44.

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                        #26
                        Do you all understand what was done to Russia over the past 20 yrs now. Inch by inch provocation, until something breaks.

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                          #27
                          The demonrats want war. They think it will save them in the mid-terms and beyond.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by jazz View Post
                            Do you all understand what was done to Russia over the past 20 yrs now. Inch by inch provocation, until something breaks.

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                            Jazz, you misunderstand Putin.

                            2014 proves it, he believes Regan pulled a fast one on Russia, without a shot being fired.

                            East Germany, Poland, Hungry, Afghanistan was the start… which Putin knows proved his misguided imperialism had no chance of success.

                            The Ukrainian genocide is a crime against all humanity… no matter what Pelosi or Biden do now, the 1994 Budapest Agreement between Russia, Great Britain, and the US…promised to respect Ukrainian sovereignty; when Ukraine gave Russia their Nuclear weapons… clearly proves Putin to be vengeful, ruthless, and a real threat to the continuing existence of humanity as we have known civilization.

                            Pelosi and Biden don’t scare China one iota… nor should they… China is simply using Pelosi as a stepping stone to Putin imperialism… to pad their Chinese egos… to pave over their human rights abuses… just like Putin over the past 20 years in the Middle East and Eastern Europe.

                            Rewriting history… in the process of carrying out genocides; is not justified nor justice. No matter how or whom is the instigator, or when the criminal committed the crime. All will be accountable in the end. Absolutely everything is recorded for all time.

                            Blessings and Salutations

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
                              The demonrats want war. They think it will save them in the mid-terms and beyond.
                              Demonrats
                              I like that

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                                2014 proves it, he believes Regan pulled a fast one on Russia, without a shot being fired.s
                                The latest CIA coup happened in 2014 Tom, what did you think Putin would do to such an act on his doorstep and Nato wanting western nukes in close proximity to Moscow. You still havent answered why Nato was trying to recruit Georgia and Kazakhstan to Nato.

                                The world is being rewritten. Its the new era of stay the fck home. US carrier groups wont have the reach they once did. They wont take a chance on new air defense systems and hypersonics. They wont be able to bully countries with the USD anymore.

                                And I would say Putin has a good shot at returning the economic favor. Russia has no debt, has customers lining up to buy its resources, while the US prints more money. Putin knows whats coming, end of globalization, end of US hegemony.

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