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    #31
    Canada is a textbook case of what happens when media gets bought-off. Nothing can be trusted, no information can be spoof-proof. We have the government filtering what we can see or hear just like Russia is supposedly doing. Are we communist? Tom, don’t give me the sweet freedom lecture. When you don’t have free press - you don’t have freedom.

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      #32
      Tom, you should pull out the good book of Armageddon and have a read, because there are a group of people on this planet that absolutely believe a nuclear war can be fought and won. And a little hint, they aint from russia.

      There are 5 active genocides going on in the world right now. Yemen, Tigray, Sub Saharan Africa, Myanmar and Western China (uyghurs).

      Ever hear of any of those. Let me guess crickets all around.

      I am sure the pictures of organ harvesting and blasting Yemenis with Canadian weapons would be interesting to see.

      That leader of Myanmar was given some award personally by Trudeau when she visited Canada, then a few months later razed villages and sent a few million refugees fleeing.

      You are following the covid narrative again, getting news from the TV, when it takes like 2 sec with a search to find out the truth. Learn to use the internet. And that doesnt mean going on cbc website.
      Last edited by jazz; Jul 24, 2022, 07:59.

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        #33
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
        Canada is a textbook case of what happens when media gets bought-off. Nothing can be trusted, no information can be spoof-proof. We have the government filtering what we can see or hear just like Russia is supposedly doing. Are we communist? Tom, don’t give me the sweet freedom lecture. When you don’t have free press - you don’t have freedom.
        Since ‘Freedom’ is a conscious state of mind, and we were allowed to have this conversation here, now, we have the opportunity, for now, to make up our minds for ourselves, and teach our family and future generations Gods Grace and Mercy.

        It is increasing obvious, that the days of our Lord, with Grace and Mercy are coming to a close, (here in the declining West) …when they do silence us…persecution will take our lives, as is happening in Syria, Ukraine, China, Russia… Iran, North Korea, Venezuela…

        Blessings and Salutations as we speak the Truth, and live our lives in this astounding beautiful world we inhabit… in this present age!

        God Bless Canada 🇨🇦!!!

        Thanks to Agriville to allow freedom of thought and expression, very much appreciated!!!

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          #34
          Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
          Canada is a textbook case of what happens when media gets bought-off. Nothing can be trusted, no information can be spoof-proof. We have the government filtering what we can see or hear just like Russia is supposedly doing. Are we communist? Tom, don’t give me the sweet freedom lecture. When you don’t have free press - you don’t have freedom.
          Answer guys, WHY never a mention of Dutch and other farmer protests in MSM?

          That's enough evidence for me to doubt all they say and wonder what they DON"T say.

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            #35
            Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
            Never put any words in your mouth, they were already in your post as other Posters have knowledge reading them as well.


            Your busy finger pointing at the West but, how many innocent Syrians has Putin's bombs killed in the last 10 years.

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              #36
              Hey WEBER why don't you find a graph showing how many Ukraine civilians have been murder, fled the country, had their homes flattened, infrastructure destroyed, farm equipment stolen ete etc in the past 150 days by Putin's bombs never mind 20 years back.

              Add on

              Then you can compare that information to the amount of Russian civilians that have had the same atrocities done to them as by Ukrainian forces the past 150 days.
              Last edited by foragefarmer; Jul 24, 2022, 09:39.

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                #37
                This argument is becoming circular again when the Putin lovers start to call out the US manoeuvres around the world but does it justify Putin? God no. Like get your head out of the conspiracy pail and think about the whole scenario here. Pre ww1 ww2 the Germans launched a fairly effective disinformation campaign to keep the allies off their back and allow them to go as far as they did. They had the ear of entertainers, pacifists, and government officials. Heck Edward VIII, Charles Lindbergh, Henry Ford were big Nazis and were staunchly advocating against getting involved in ww2. Sure the truth is the first casualty in the war but anytime you justify Putin in Ukraine because of whatever propaganda you’ve been fed you’re no better.

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                  #38
                  While I think the Russian/Ukraine family spat is just an excuse for incompetence of the world's leaders , I would like to know why we are funding or helping both sides?

                  Sending the turbines back for Russia and sending billions to Ukraine.

                  What happens if Putin and Zelensky are replaced with better people that can get along given their wealth of resources nd say a big "phuck you" to the western countries?

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                    #39
                    forge you prove our point with every post you make. you are only looking at one short sighted side. There are atrocities committed by your own goverment that you are turning a blind eye too or choosing not to bring the same leval of awarness. you only want the focus on bad Russia poor Ukraine your missing the whole point sir.

                    also confused as to why you hate ppl like us trying to stand up for truth and what's taking place behind the curtain in cnd? Yes we have shades of freedom here... but day after day they are under attack and being eroded by idiotic policy. Why hate us for loving what we had and choosing to not wanting to let it go?
                    Last edited by helmach; Jul 24, 2022, 11:44.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bucket View Post
                      While I think the Russian/Ukraine family spat is just an excuse for incompetence of the world's leaders , I would like to know why we are funding or helping both sides?

                      Sending the turbines back for Russia and sending billions to Ukraine.

                      What happens if Putin and Zelensky are replaced with better people that can get along given their wealth of resources nd say a big "phuck you" to the western countries?
                      Bucket: the genocide and annihilation of a people, is a very poor description of a ‘family spat’.

                      Since Russia did this to the Ukrainian people in the 1930’s… and obviously many descendants of those very Ukrainian folks (who were ejected from the Ukraine then) have blessed Canada with their ‘ blood sweat and tears’ … (lives) … you are asking me to justify Putins present day Ukrainian genocide… as a simple family disagreement?!? God forbid…

                      No chance.

                      The fear of God is the beginning of all Wisdom… and to love our neighbor as our selves, the needed ingredient for our earthly family to live in Peace…

                      Ignorance is not Bliss… Eternal torture…awaits those who orchestrated these atrocities… after we humans graduate into the next stage of our eternal consciousness… should we choose that destiny…this is a horrendous outcome to greed and the fantasies of rich proud powerful people… who will be held accountable… no matter what heritage or nation they command their armies from… for justice and the law to be accomplished.

                      Mathew 23:

                      11 “The more lowly your service to others, the greater you are. To be the greatest, be a servant. 12 But those who think themselves great shall be disappointed and humbled; and those who humble themselves shall be exalted.

                      13-14 “Woe to you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders. Hypocrites! For you won’t let others enter the Kingdom of Heaven and won’t go in yourselves. And you pretend to be holy, with all your long, public prayers in the streets, while you are evicting widows from their homes. Hypocrites! 15 Yes, woe upon you hypocrites. For you go to all lengths to make one convert, and then turn him into twice the son of hell you are yourselves. 16 Blind guides! Woe upon you!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by helmach View Post
                        forge you prove our point with every post you make. you are only looking at one short sighted side. There are atrocities committed by your own goverment that you are turning a blind eye too or choosing not to bring the same leval of awarness. you only want the focus on bad Russia poor Ukraine your missing the whole point sir.

                        also confused as to why you hate ppl like us trying to stand up for truth and what's taking place behind the curtain in cnd? Yes we have shades of freedom here... but day after day they are under attack and being eroded by idiotic policy. Why hate us for loving what we had and choosing to not wanting to let it go?
                        Was the US justification for invading Iraq any better than Putins justification for invading Ukraine any better? No. I think we can agree with that. It’s great that we live in a country where we can criticize and protest against what we don’t agree with for now. Sad thing in Russia you can’t do that. That is the difference. I think the freedom convoy no matter where you stand shows how our own government can become a totalitarian hell hole like Russia or Turkmenistan if we aren’t aware of our democratic responsibilities and fight for them when necessary. Also propaganda from our own government and nefarious actors can cloud our judgement. Maybe they are selling arms to Russia on the battlefield like some are stating and weird shit happens but it’s little stories like that which sounds like misinformation from Russia like that Ukraine is sending bio weaponized soldiers into battle. In ww1 we locked up a bunch of Ukrainians for fear they would cause trouble like we did to the japanese and Germans in ww2. Granted there were some Nazis and Germany supporters among the lot but did that justify wrecking a whole subset of our populations lives? It was fear and misheld ideas of enemies among us. That’s why you have to take a lot of this information with a grain of salt and be vigilant because who knows a lot of you guys they might come knocking on your door for what you post here.

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                          #42
                          Please inform yourselves, this region has been in conflict more than NOT. This is nothing new, and will continue to happen.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                            Please inform yourselves, this region has been in conflict more than NOT. This is nothing new, and will continue to happen.

                            https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
                            In 2022:
                            TEN Million Ukrainian people Displaced;
                            $500Billion destruction so far of Ukrainian infrastructure;

                            Bankruptcy of the Ukrainian economy;

                            Loss of 50% of the agricultural capacity of one of the most productive agricultural nations per square mile on earth…

                            This is a crime against humanity and the earth itself.

                            To try to excuse the actions of the Russians… in 2022, as a simple matter of convenience… is as cruel as this atrocity itself.

                            God have Mercy on us… for our Hard Hearts 🥰

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                              Please inform yourselves, this region has been in conflict more than NOT. This is nothing new, and will continue to happen.

                              https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
                              You bet it has. When you were over ran by the Golden Horde and subjugated to their brutal rule and reprisals for hundreds of years while the rest of the world moves on you can understand why mongol tactics and thought rubs off on you to this day. Hell Mongolia has moved on. Gosh some of you are as bad as people reasoning why they voted for Romanow.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by helmach View Post
                                forge you prove our point with every post you make. you are only looking at one short sighted side. There are atrocities committed by your own goverment that you are turning a blind eye too or choosing not to bring the same leval of awarness. you only want the focus on bad Russia poor Ukraine your missing the whole point sir.

                                also confused as to why you hate ppl like us trying to stand up for truth and what's taking place behind the curtain in cnd? Yes we have shades of freedom here... but day after day they are under attack and being eroded by idiotic policy. Why hate us for loving what we had and choosing to not wanting to let it go?
                                Give me an example of atrocities Canada has recently committed resulting in 7 million people of a country having to flee their country, have had their citizens murder, school and hospitals flattened, infrastructure destroyed, anything that can be lifted stolen, etc etc.

                                How many Russians citizens have been displaced or murder now or even since 2014 by Ukrainian bombs? And I'm the one "only looking at one short sighted side"? SIR

                                Exactly what truth are you standing up for, Putin the dictator who is waging the genocide on Ukraine.

                                As for your grade school comment of me hating you, it wouldn't be worth the effort or time.

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