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Jun 21, 2022 | 07:36 1 https://www.producer.com/news/canada...th-other-nfus/
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  • Jun 22, 2022 | 22:50 2 The sound of silence… lol Reply With Quote
    Landdownunder's Avatar Jun 23, 2022 | 04:57 3 Guess i met about a dozen farmers stayed with 4 common thread no one likes NFU not a single one.

    Complete opposite here but austcanada might see it differently.

    No issue paying levies to our farmer organisations often lock horns with govt and go against the grain.

    Many issues farmers at odds with govt.

    State based.

    Latest issue maybe 18 months ago GMO ban finally got lifted in our state.

    Lots of hard work to get govt to see reason.

    Single desk way way back, like farmers didn’t want it but die hard in govt held change up for a good 3 years. Then all necessary protocol and safety measures got in took 5 years long hard slog.

    Over the fence trading of farm seed farmer to farmer another win against seed companies but gosh that was 15 yrs ago maybe.

    Played huge role in gun debate 30 yrs ago as well.

    Our guys work hard revolving boards. Think longest anyone can stay is 6 years no professional board sitting brain dead paid position farmers who stay for years, generational some father stays for years then son comes on that was outed at least 20 yrs ago.

    Most of the best candidates never stand to busy farming.

    And definitely no woke stuff kumbyah stuff etc Reply With Quote
    Jun 23, 2022 | 05:37 4 NFU has some good points but the biggest reason they will never get widespread support is their stance on single desk . Not only do they want it back but they want it back for all commodities including canola ….. that will never fly , ever Reply With Quote
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  • Jun 23, 2022 | 07:46 5 the NFU we have is just a spin off socialist party from the NDP
    lots of the board members still farm with 30 cockshutt tractors Reply With Quote
    Landdownunder's Avatar Jun 23, 2022 | 14:59 6
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    NFU has some good points but the biggest reason they will never get widespread support is their stance on single desk . Not only do they want it back but they want it back for all commodities including canola ….. that will never fly , ever
    Is that a joke?

    One could assume it’s all older guys then or younger guys with left leaning ideas? Reply With Quote
    Jun 23, 2022 | 23:05 7
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    the NFU we have is just a spin off socialist party from the NDP
    lots of the board members still farm with 30 cockshutt tractors
    My thoughts as well. Cockshutt 30 on a ccil pt combine. Probably use discers and crazy harrows to boot. Think the organic guys are NFU supporters. Go down the rabbit hole you’re bound to pick up flees. Reply With Quote
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  • Jun 24, 2022 | 00:52 8 actually, most of them haven't yet graduated up to using something big, modern and mechanized as the Cockshutt 30. According to their website, most of the board of directors and staff are market gardener types, more concerned with genders in agriculture than any issues pertinent to farmers of any type or scale.

    See for yourself:
    https://www.nfu.ca/about/board-of-directors/

    Or look up an old thread where I reposted some of their Bio's, and really aroused the ire of grassfarmer. Reply With Quote
    Jun 24, 2022 | 06:59 9 hmm, don't see Glenn on there ?, strange , musta ran? Reply With Quote
    Jun 24, 2022 | 07:04 10 You boys getting ready for the freedumb rally on Canada day in Ottawa?

    Got your hot tubs, toys and outfits picked out? Lol

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  • Jun 24, 2022 | 07:08 11 Maybe you can get a selfie with Crypto Polly? But don't ask about his bit coin investments or he might not smile for the camera.

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    Jun 24, 2022 | 09:35 12 Chuck, you are deflecting from the thread topic again. Please try to take your own advice and stick with the issues. What does PP or your favourite speedo wearing protestor have to do with the NFU?

    What do you think, is the NFU currently out of touch with the issues of farmers, or organizations elsewhere i the world?

    Is the average Canadian farmer mostly concerned about Indigenous land claims, climate change, genders, hydro dams, unions, and foreign socialist movements?

    I think I saw the 2SLGBTQQIA+ acronym on their website more times than the words livestock or grain. Reply With Quote
    Jun 24, 2022 | 09:47 13
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    You boys getting ready for the freedumb rally on Canada day in Ottawa?

    Got your hot tubs, toys and outfits picked out? Lol

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    are you ready to go out and support your heroes ? they need a bit of support ,lots of scandals showing up ! and demand more jabs ,sombody might be kind enough to share a few more with you , dont forget to keep your masks on at all times Reply With Quote
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  • Jun 24, 2022 | 10:06 14
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    actually, most of them haven't yet graduated up to using something big, modern and mechanized as the Cockshutt 30. According to their website, most of the board of directors and staff are market gardener types, more concerned with genders in agriculture than any issues pertinent to farmers of any type or scale.

    See for yourself:
    https://www.nfu.ca/about/board-of-directors/

    Or look up an old thread where I reposted some of their Bio's, and really aroused the ire of grassfarmer.
    Actually took the time to look at the majority of the Bio’s. I didn’t find a single commercial of what I would call a traditional farmer in the bunch. All are organic(less than 5% of Canadian farmers I believe) farmers or market gardeners. While there is no doubt running a market garden takes a lot of work, their concerns and mine are totally different. I certainly agree with your thoughts on this AB5! Reply With Quote

  • Jun 24, 2022 | 10:24 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    Actually took the time to look at the majority of the Bio’s. I didn’t find a single commercial of what I would call a traditional farmer in the bunch. All are organic(less than 5% of Canadian farmers I believe) farmers or market gardeners. While there is no doubt running a market garden takes a lot of work, their concerns and mine are totally different. I certainly agree with your thoughts on this AB5!
    I agree, market gardnerers and organic farmers have just as much right to have a voice in farmer organizations. But their presence within the NFU is out of all proportion to their real world relevace.

    Here is the old thread where I posted parts of their bio's, and press releases. It wasn't flattering.

    The NFU members and apologists who were in Agriville at the time somehow decided to shoot the messenger.

    https://www.agriville.com/threads/37...on-their-board

    Here is part of the first post:

    is a landless farmer whom meanders between several locations

    is interested in cooperative movements, trading metal mix-tapes, what other ***** folk (LGBTQQIP2SAA) are doing to the soil, and supports the opposition to Site C

    an organic, small-scale farm (a very common theme, I didn't bother copy and pasting every time the word organic is used, since it is mostly all of them, nothing against organic producers, but Inote that they appear to be over represented amongst the NFU board members)

    As the feedlot became less profitable due to corporate control of the cattle sector, he ended the feedlot to focus on cows and high quality, high protein Hard Red Spring Wheat. That ended with the dismantling of the Canadian Wheat Board.(Which is odd, since that was opposite to most wheat growers experiences)

    true desire for social justice

    need to refocus governments’ views away from the pro-corporate, profit agenda

    undergraduate degree in Nutrition and Food Sciences and Food Policy where the topics of environmental stewardship and social justice captured his attention

    is also a social worker and therapist.

    was the co-director and founder of Sole Food Street Farms, a social enterprise that provides jobs and agricultural training for people in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver.

    the idea of owning land in unceded territories ... seems kind of messed up.

    is an actor and theatre instructor

    Bachelor of Environmental Studies

    worked as a forestry technician with a local conservation authority

    has spent the past several years working on organic farms

    all farmers no matter their gender, age, or race

    teaches Yoga at her local community centre

    along with three (sometimes) helpful farm cats, they make a living selling organic vegetables and cut flowers


    Other noteworthy items from their website,
    They are very much opposed to hydro power, specifically site C dam in BC, which doesn't exactly square with the desire for renewable energy which they also support, not sure what site C dam has to do with farmers?
    Lots of anti GMO
    Lots of support for UN initiatives
    Supporting climate change initiatives, including the carbon tax
    Anti pipeline, pro First nations soveriegnty
    Anti free trade/NAFTA/CETA
    Pro bilingulism/Francophone (noteworthy that the only region without an NFU chapter is Quebec
    Pro Pharmacare in Canada
    Promoting prison farms
    Anti growth hormones
    Many media releases about gender
    NFU is proud to endorse Idle No More’s “UNsettling Canada 150” Call to Action ( wouldn't that involve kicking farmers off the land, not sure if they thought that one through all the way?)
    They are against property owners defending their own property or lives against criminals, but the entire cause of the problem is not enough women in the right positions
    Solidarity with natives in US blocking pipelines
    Concerned about Brazilian and Palestinian farmers rights
    Concerned that the government of New Brunswick isn't doing more to help farmers due to low wild blueberry prices( at least it is almost farming related, but not sure how you farm a wild plant??? Can't it be one or the other?
    They sent condolences to Colten Boushie
    Supports migrant workers
    Endorses LEAP Manifesto
    Supported ALberta's bill 6, farm safety bill brought in by NDP, which was universally opposed by all in the industry
    SUpported Lawrence Macaulay, previous federal ag minister
    Concerned about support for Libraries
    Against TPP
    Pro supply management ( at least it is ag related)
    Still lamenting the fall of the CWB, and longing for the good old days. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 2, 2022 | 23:23 16 Sad but when the good old cbc needs an interview for an ag related topic who do they ask 80% of the time? Typical bunch of socialist scum. Jealous of people being successful and not sharing in their own private misery and hell. Reply With Quote
    Jul 3, 2022 | 07:09 17 Speaking of socialists scum! According to some, Crypto Polly is a socialist too when it comes to supply management. LOL

    By the way Wilton, have you sent back or turned down all the "socialist" subsidies you received from tax payers over your farming career?

    And do you use public healthcare, drive on public roads and send your kids to public schools?

    Do your senior relatives receive Old Age Security and the Guaranteed Income Supplement? Very popular "socialist" wealth transfer programs designed to help keep seniors out of poverty.

    Most republicans in the US think all Canadians are socialists, even you Wilton. So be carefull when you call everyone but yourself a socialist. Look in the mirror Wilton you are looking at an alleged socialist. LOL


    Bernier says Poilievre is ‘leftist’ on supply management issue

    People’s Party of Canada (PPC) leader Maxime Bernier said Pierre Poilievre is revealing his “leftist party” ways, following Polievre’s comments on supply management issues in Canada’s agriculture sector.

    Bernier took to Twitter saying he wasn’t surprised Poilievre won’t change supply management in agriculture.

    “The LibCons are in the pocket of the dairy cartel,” he tweeted, adding it is the cartel who “decides who can and cannot be leader.”

    During an interview aired on Wednesday with the Western Standard’s Cory Morgan, federal Conservative leadership candidate Poilievre said he wouldn’t propose to change the current agriculture price and production controls.

    The Soviet-style supply management of certain sections of Canada’s agriculture sector leads to artificially high prices by setting production quotas and large import taxes and prohibitions on imported dairy and other products.

    Poilievre said he wouldn’t do away with the current program because “farmers who own the quota [permits] have had to pay millions of dollars for it,” and doing away with the current program would cost more than keeping it in place.

    “His message isn’t coherent with conservative values,” Bernier told the Western Standard.
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  • jazz's Avatar Jul 3, 2022 | 08:42 18
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    “His message isn’t coherent with conservative values,” Bernier told the Western Standard.
    Maybe not, but he is going to work the trade off in this socialist utopia. East gets to keep their farming daycare program, but they get the absolute **** you controlling our western resources, quebec include. The oil and potash and gas and everything else is going to flow, no barriers. Climate agenda to be turfed. That point will be made clear day one.

    Let the americans take care of supply management. Reply With Quote
    Jul 3, 2022 | 08:45 19 Chuck, you are deflecting and avoiding the topic again.
    What about the NFU? Reply With Quote
    Jul 3, 2022 | 10:43 20
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Chuck, you are deflecting and avoiding the topic again.
    What about the NFU?
    Exactly. I hit a nerve there and he goes off on a tangent again about crypto poly and Bernier supporting supply management. Yes Chuck tell us how you help the NFU appeal to the majority of farmers. Like the ndp the NFU appeals to a small subset of the ag industry. Reply With Quote

  • fjlip's Avatar Jul 3, 2022 | 11:50 21 To moron SHEEPLE! Quit stealing sheeple and Covidiots.....that is YOU ! Reply With Quote
    Jul 3, 2022 | 12:28 22 Chuck's steadfast refusal to acknowledge any post related to the nfu really tells us all we need to know about who his Masters are.
    Parrots all the same headlines that the nfu does. Defends their horrific policies at all costs.
    But never says a word about them directly, good bad or ugly.

    At least grassfarmer was up front and unapologetic about his affiliations. I respect that far more than someone who goes to such Great lengths to hide his true identity and true affiliations and true political history.

    If This troll career doesn't work out, chuck, you could always try being a poker player, no one will ever read your poker face. Lol. Reply With Quote
    Jul 3, 2022 | 13:38 23 Shit that there is funny right there, I don’t care who you are ,lol Reply With Quote
    Jul 3, 2022 | 18:49 24
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Chuck's steadfast refusal to acknowledge any post related to the nfu really tells us all we need to know about who his Masters are.
    Parrots all the same headlines that the nfu does. Defends their horrific policies at all costs.
    But never says a word about them directly, good bad or ugly.

    At least grassfarmer was up front and unapologetic about his affiliations. I respect that far more than someone who goes to such Great lengths to hide his true identity and true affiliations and true political history.

    If This troll career doesn't work out, chuck, you could always try being a poker player, no one will ever read your poker face. Lol.
    I respected Grassfarmer. Maybe some of his views I didn’t agree with but he was a David Orchard type conservative. He had his principles and defended them. He also was knowledgeable about a lot of things. He added to the discussion even though he disagreed with people. Others (Voldemort) add nothing but conflict. Reply With Quote

  • Jul 3, 2022 | 22:03 25 I did too Reply With Quote

  • Jul 4, 2022 | 07:50 26 I see nobody tried to deny that they are on the Ag subsidy "socialist" gravy train and probably voted for a party that supports state controlled supply managed farmers in dairy and poultry.

    Tut Tut. You can't call everyone "socialist scum" and then happily take taxpayers money and support can you, without looking like a giant hypocrite?

    Doesn't the NFU like Crypto Polly support supply management? How strange is that?

    Why have all the Crypto Polly boosters gone silent on the subject of "socialist" scum?

    So you guys going to vote for "leftists" Crypto Polly and supply management? Or Mad Max and the farther right PPC?
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    Jul 4, 2022 | 10:14 27
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    I see nobody tried to deny that they are on the Ag subsidy "socialist" gravy train and probably voted for a party that supports state controlled supply managed farmers in dairy and poultry.

    Tut Tut. You can't call everyone "socialist scum" and then happily take taxpayers money and support can you, without looking like a giant hypocrite?

    Doesn't the NFU like Crypto Polly support supply management? How strange is that?

    Why have all the Crypto Polly boosters gone silent on the subject of "socialist" scum?

    So you guys going to vote for "leftists" Crypto Polly and supply management? Or Mad Max and the farther right PPC?
    I would vote for a fence post if it meant ridding ourselves of the current evil. Reply With Quote

  • Jul 4, 2022 | 17:42 28
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    I see nobody tried to deny that they are on the Ag subsidy "socialist" gravy train and probably voted for a party that supports state controlled supply managed farmers in dairy and poultry.

    Tut Tut. You can't call everyone "socialist scum" and then happily take taxpayers money and support can you, without looking like a giant hypocrite?

    Doesn't the NFU like Crypto Polly support supply management? How strange is that?

    Why have all the Crypto Polly boosters gone silent on the subject of "socialist" scum?

    So you guys going to vote for "leftists" Crypto Polly and supply management? Or Mad Max and the farther right PPC?
    What gravy train ??? Reply With Quote
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  • Partners's Avatar Jul 4, 2022 | 17:56 29 I think chucky has gone off the deep end.
    Disregard any future posts from him.. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 4, 2022 | 21:57 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
    I think chucky has gone off the deep end.
    Disregard any future posts from him..
    Wait a minute. This only applies going forward? You mean we were supposed to take him seriously up until now? I wish someone would have told me that years ago. Reply With Quote