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    Canadian Health Care Needs Revamp

    Calgary Herald’s Corbella lays it on the line. Our health care system is riddled with excess administrators and lacks doctors. Few Covid-related cases and very few ICU cases overwhelm our system? Really? We need to cancel surgeries because we do not allocate our health dollars as other countries are? Countries like Germany make us look like buffoons.

    We need to take a good look at the flaws in our system. The blame needs to be laid where it belongs, at the feet of the fat cats pushing paper.

    #2
    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Calgary Herald’s Corbella lays it on the line. Our health care system is riddled with excess administrators and lacks doctors. Few Covid-related cases and very few ICU cases overwhelm our system? Really? We need to cancel surgeries because we do not allocate our health dollars as other countries are? Countries like Germany make us look like buffoons.

    We need to take a good look at the flaws in our system. The blame needs to be laid where it belongs, at the feet of the fat cats pushing paper.
    When I was still in the hospital where the surgery was done to repair the broken femur, it was not hard to see the deep anger toward "management".

    One nurse, who had spent 15 years working in the US after commie premier Bob Rae cost her her job as a graduate, spoke guardedly of the amount of waste in the Canadian system. She said, "And I'm not talking about supplies/ materials".

    Others were more open with their feelings. I know a number of them would love to see management get their comeuppance.

    Hopefully that day will be coming soon, since the system needs a serious overhaul.

    The top dogs have created a toxic environment and minister of health Christine Elliott has just dumped in a fresh vial of acid..

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      #3
      The biggest problem in health care is too many pencil pushers and not enough Drs. Nurses and specialists.

      Started under the NDP in Sask.

      Easier to get supporters in the System as Pencil pushers vs educated.

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        #4
        Ab has a partial private system although very small. Diagnostics can be done outside the system at least.

        But Ab has problems too. So its not the entire solution.

        Some sort of a user pay system at the door. $50 or something, private diagnostics and then the back end socialized with a big time restructure.

        The MRI is the biggest example of a failing system. When we had 2 yrs backlogs for the MRI because we couldnt get a person to press the button on nights and weekends. What a mess.

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          #5
          We were in Grenada , went for something , coulda got an MRI for $150 on a Saturday night
          Way too many bosses here ,not enough workers
          An accountant here gets paid more than a doctor in a lot of cases from the health district

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            #6
            Originally posted by caseih View Post
            An accountant here gets paid more than a doctor in a lot of cases from the health district
            Dont know about that one case. A plain jane GP in Sask probably makes $400k.

            The top guys like that dude that moonlights as a property developer in Regina is over $1M. Some nurses can pull in $100k

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              #7
              there are nurses who make up to 200 if they want to really work lots.

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                #8
                So there are 10 provinces who are responsible for 10 health care systems and you want to paint them all with the same brush?

                Whats the ratio of management to nurses, doctors and the rest of health care workers in every province?

                If you don't know that, how can you be sure too much management is the problem?

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                  #9
                  Well Chuck at least you admit there is a problem
                  Talk to a nurse , any nurse , anywhere you want
                  Then you’ll know

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                    #10
                    The biggest problem right now is the number of covid patients many of whom are unvaccinated sucking up healthcare resources and workers who are sick with covid.

                    This causes further delays in elective surgeries and treatment for non-covid issues.

                    Prior to covid many elective surgeries required long waits primarily due to lack of health care staff and beds. Is this the fault of management or a lack of funding and human resources?

                    Otherwise most of my family members have received good quality care and treatment when needed.

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                      #11
                      They have had since November 2019 to increase capacity at hospitals. They will have to eventually due to the residual effects of what happens to people that get a bad case of Covid.

                      They have done nothing to increase hospital capacity as they continue on their process of bringing some 100000 immigrants into this country every year.

                      Its like Saskatchewan bragging about population growth yet forgetting to build adequate infrastructure for the higher population. how many more doctors and nurses do you need for every 100000 people???? Along with the required infrastructure around those numbers within the healthcare system?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        The biggest problem right now is the number of covid patients many of whom are unvaccinated sucking up healthcare resources and workers who are sick with covid.

                        This causes further delays in elective surgeries and treatment for non-covid issues.

                        Prior to covid many elective surgeries required long waits primarily due to lack of health care staff and beds. Is this the fault of management or a lack of funding and human resources?

                        Otherwise most of my family members have received good quality care and treatment when needed.
                        185 of the 244 in Saskatchewan hospitals are fully vaxxed
                        Just sayin
                        Last edited by Guest; Jan 23, 2022, 10:31.

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                          #13
                          When you walk down the hallways in our hospitals the nurses are all at thier desks with thier head down filling reports and checklists to forward to that administrative staff.
                          I bet 75% of thier time is basicly cover your ass clerical.
                          The hospital system used to run on a simple chart left at the patients bed.
                          Now it all goes into computer programs.
                          Every pill and bandaid has to have a form filled out.
                          The nurses are great but they get a bad rap sometimes because they are tied to the desk more all the time do administration to send on tp the administration.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bucket View Post
                            They have had since November 2019 to increase capacity at hospitals. They will have to eventually due to the residual effects of what happens to people that get a bad case of Covid.

                            They have done nothing to increase hospital capacity as they continue on their process of bringing some 100000 immigrants into this country every year.

                            Its like Saskatchewan bragging about population growth yet forgetting to build adequate infrastructure for the higher population. how many more doctors and nurses do you need for every 100000 people???? Along with the required infrastructure around those numbers within the healthcare system?
                            Just imagine for a minute - a farmer has facilities for about 1000 head of cattle. Over a period of years he gradually increases the placements to 2000.

                            But he doesn't build the facilities any bigger. And he doesn't increase the feed supply or the labour force or the equipment to do it.

                            It gets really cold for a long time and the feeding equipment breaks down.

                            The cattle start to suffer, starve and die of disease and starvation.

                            What would CBC and CTV do when they learn of it?

                            But when it's humans, they look for someone to blame rather than address the real cause.

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                              #15
                              The administrative bloat is typical of any and all government run enterprises.

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