Feedlots short ?

[Taiga]

Can’t comment on the train situation but as far as the trucking issue, well, Grain Brokers if you are reading this - if you continue to post loads at previous years rates you are not going to get many takers this year. And the trucks willing to take the loads this week probably won’t be back next week.

[makar]

Can’t comment on the train situation but as far as the trucking issue, well, Grain Brokers if you are reading this - if you continue to post loads at previous years rates you are not going to get many takers this year. And the trucks willing to take the loads this week probably won’t be back next week.

I posted a while ago a broker offered me minus 2.00 dollars for my wheat compared to 3 terminals in 5 miles. This shit dont fly with me.

[makar]

The grain is/was there, if it was someone should of paid for it, if it is someone should pay for it.

[riders2010]

It’s not just the feedlots that are short.
There’s close to literally no hay or even straw
To buy for cow calf operations.
Was a total failure by our provincial government
To come up with a better program on the
Crop insurance side. Writing off 10 bushel crops
Meant next to nothing they were so short there
Was next to no bales and the crops would have been
wrote off Anyway too short to cut grain wise. So basically
There was zero help on that front of securing
Enough feed.
Ranchers In our area tried to tell mla cattleman’s association
And Apas and the reply was
You have the tax credit coming????

The 200 dollars an animal was too little too late
Bales are 300 bucks. Who ever calculated 200 bucks
Likely doesn’t know the front end of a cow
From the back.

And yet what’s a steak in the grocery store? Hamburger?

And still silence from apas and the rest!!!!!!

What’s the Sask party did for producers was next to
Nothing as 60% came from the feds!!!!!!
This is one of those times where investment would
Have saved the industry and saved future government
Revenue. So many more ranchers are gone I can’t
Understand why it’s not being reported on.

[bucket]

It’s not just the feedlots that are short.
There’s close to literally no hay or even straw
To buy for cow calf operations.
Was a total failure by our provincial government
To come up with a better program on the
Crop insurance side. Writing off 10 bushel crops
Meant next to nothing they were so short there
Was next to no bales and the crops would have been
wrote off Anyway too short to cut grain wise. So basically
There was zero help on that front of securing
Enough feed.
Ranchers In our area tried to tell mla cattleman’s association
And Apas and the reply was
You have the tax credit coming????

The 200 dollars an animal was too little too late
Bales are 300 bucks. Who ever calculated 200 bucks
Likely doesn’t know the front end of a cow
From the back.

And yet what’s a steak in the grocery store? Hamburger?

And still silence from apas and the rest!!!!!!

What’s the Sask party did for producers was next to
Nothing as 60% came from the feds!!!!!!
This is one of those times where investment would
Have saved the industry and saved future government
Revenue. So many more ranchers are gone I can’t
Understand why it’s not being reported on.

Good comments.

MPs are so stupid they don't even drive a few miles to the local livestock auction and ask a few questions about cull rates compared to normal.

A 100 head cow herd can eat 1500 to 2000 dollars a day in hay. 200 dollars a head is only 10 days of feed. So after the 10 day cold snap, what are ranchers going to do?

APAS and governments are still patting themselves on the back.

Puppymakers!

[riders2010]

Add insult to injury blame farmers for mismanaging
The budget.
They’ve literally done nothing for the drought.

[bucket]

Add insult to injury blame farmers for mismanaging
The budget.
They’ve literally done nothing for the drought.

APAS got neutered on that , APAS gets money from Saskatchewan government . They smoothed it over for their per diems. They had the opportunity to embarrass the Saskparty.....they chose not to since Tool Lewis wouldn't have been allowed to run as an MLA if they continued the narrative.

[riders2010]

This is classic example where NO amount of money will solve the problem.

We need Rumpelstiltskin to spin some dollars into hay.

I thought I was feeding $150 bales choking at the cost, $300 good god why did I keep the damn cows!!!!

Like most things you didn’t understand what
We’re talking about. Last summer and fall
When ranchers knew there was no feed
They asked for help. The response was basically
A media farce where people believed the
Sask party actually helped the situation.
When in fact writing off 10 bushel barley that’s
Less than a foot tall produces very little bales.
The write off should have occurred at 20 or 30
Bushels an acre meaning more feed would have been
Available. Also farmers that don’t have livestock
Should have been offered market price for
Acres of barley oats to be baled.
Thai would have solved the current absolute dire
Situation cow calf producers are in now with
3 months or more to go feeding.

There was literally next to no money in this program
Offered by the provincial government.

The only place there is hay is far away from
The drought zone there should be an additional
200 bucks minimum offered immediately.

It’s a farce to say the money didn’t help
When realistically there was next to nothing
Offered.

[bucket]

Like most things you didn’t understand what
We’re talking about. Last summer and fall
When ranchers knew there was no feed
They asked for help. The response was basically
A media farce where people believed the
Sask party actually helped the situation.
When in fact writing off 10 bushel barley that’s
Less than a foot tall produces very little bales.
The write off should have occurred at 20 or 30
Bushels an acre meaning more feed would have been
Available. Also farmers that don’t have livestock
Should have been offered market price for
Acres of barley oats to be baled.
Thai would have solved the current absolute dire
Situation cow calf producers are in now with
3 months or more to go feeding.

There was literally next to no money in this program
Offered by the provincial government.

The only place there is hay is far away from
The drought zone there should be an additional
200 bucks minimum offered immediately.

It’s a farce to say the money didn’t help
When realistically there was next to nothing
Offered.

You hit the nail on the head, the delay in making the feed available ruined any chance of having adequate supplies.

30 to 40 bpa crops is where they could have made a difference but it would have meant a better program.

You can not have ag ministers and bureaucrats with their prerequisites that they have uncles and aunts on the farm or they have farm relatives.

When farm groups realize David Marit isn't and never was a farmer , they might make progress in better programs.

[Guest]

this Sask party needs to go , we need a new one. strayed too far from the provinces backbone
sadly there are no options for us and they know it . best alternative maybe buffalo party?

[bucket]

Trying to educate myself, how many acres equivalent does it take to feed a 40000 head feedlot?

[burnt]

Trying to educate myself, how many acres equivalent does it take to feed a 40000 head feedlot?

I was trying to figure that out as well this morning.

Would it be accurate to estimate that for every 10,000 hd, the requirement would be about 250,000 lb/day based on 25 lb/hd?

That would be heavier animals.

If so, that's about 3 trailer loads per day? For each 10,000 hd?

I'm just going by what I put into our few finishing animals.

[Retired]

Trying to educate myself, how many acres equivalent does it take to feed a 40000 head feedlot?

About 1.5 acres per animal x a turn around of 2.5 x would be 40000 animals x 1.5 acres = 60,000 x 2.5 turnaround = 150,000 acres to feed a feedlot of 40,000 animals . this is rough off top of head but i think is in ballpark about 6 or 7 townships.

[Sheepwheat]

Anything I can do about my November contract that they won’t take still? I could use a cash injection by now.

[riders2010]

Sorry bud, you just can’t see the big picture. My point isn’t about the funding, it's the fact that when there is simply not enough feed to go around, no amount of money will solve the problem, no matter the timing or the amount.

If you think animal owners are waiting for a handout before they source feed you’re fooling yourself. If it’s not there, it’s not there, no amount of money can fix that problem.

I’m in no way saying they shouldn’t help, or that it shouldn’t be more dollars. I’m just saying there are some things money just can’t fix.

There was lots of feed maybe some miles would
Have been involved but there needed to be some
actual dollars And some foresight involved to acknowledge
The situation. No non livestock producer is going let
Anyone cut their barley or oats for the shit
Price per bushel that crop insurance was at.
If there was a top up lots of acres could have been
Cut.

But our at minister barely wanted to acknowledge
The drought at all. When the feds asked if help
Was needed there was no reply.

This could be a major disaster unfolding.
There are some yo-yo guys around that have
Thin cows at the best of time I doubt those
Animals will fair very good now for sure is another
Issue.