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    #46
    The new Miss Woke on the block can crow all she wants. The oil wells and sands arent in city limits thank god.

    Alberta doesnt have to do anything but keep the ESG loons in check and ride the 10 yr oil bull run. Should be out of debt by that time.

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      #47
      Originally posted by wiseguy
      nenshi got the boot like chuck !

      Both should take the hint and leave !
      Nenshi stepped down, his name was not on the ballot.

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        #48
        All the referendum results proved was the incompetence of Kenney and UPC government and its abdication of leadership.

        On the binding daylights saving vote, a 50/50 split means half of the voters will be unhappy no matter what. Not a pretty picture for candidates to face in next election. Furthermore, the referendum only gave voters 2 options to chose from, the status quo and year round daylight savings time. So voters in favor of year round standard time were excluded from even expressing their opinion. So much for giving all voters a choice.

        The equalization question is even more damaging for the government. Despite heavy and misleading pressure by the government for a yes vote, early results show only 60% in favor of the question. Given that only about 1/3 of the eligible voters cast a ballot in the election, there is not the overwhelming response for ending equalization that the government had hoped for and Kenney will be laughed out of provincial/federal leadership meetings if he tries to claim ending equalization is the will of Albertans based on the referendum question.

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          #49
          Sort of like our Federal election. Fewer people voted for Libs but look what we’ve got. 60% is 60% unless you are obtuse then it might be 40. 👎
          Last edited by sumdumguy; Oct 20, 2021, 09:39.

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            #50
            Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
            All the referendum results proved was the incompetence of Kenney and UPC government and its abdication of leadership.

            On the binding daylights saving vote, a 50/50 split means half of the voters will be unhappy no matter what. Not a pretty picture for candidates to face in next election. Furthermore, the referendum only gave voters 2 options to chose from, the status quo and year round daylight savings time. So voters in favor of year round standard time were excluded from even expressing their opinion. So much for giving all voters a choice.

            The equalization question is even more damaging for the government. Despite heavy and misleading pressure by the government for a yes vote, early results show only 60% in favor of the question. Given that only about 1/3 of the eligible voters cast a ballot in the election, there is not the overwhelming response for ending equalization that the government had hoped for and Kenney will be laughed out of provincial/federal leadership meetings if he tries to claim ending equalization is the will of Albertans based on the referendum question.
            Will be interesting to see what the final results are!

            We all have individual responsibilities to be positive people… but the financial stability of our western civilization, further the Woke moral hard left denial of King Jesus and Biblical standards… replacing them at our core with evolution and climate change as the moral standards we teach our children: leads to the ungodly ungrateful ungovernability of humanity.

            We can return to our heritage of biblical standards… but does anyone seriously believe that is a turn western civilization will take?

            God have mercy. We are truly going to need God’s miracles of mercy and forgiveness to reverse the destiny of our civilization. The denial of God’s existence is to doom humanity. In the end as the biblical text states; the end of our age will be our responsibility and choice. The knowledge of good and evil has consequences… the choice of our destination; ( greed and selfishness) our own as a civilization.

            Cheers

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              #51
              Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
              Sort of like our Federal election. Fewer people voted for Libs but look what we’ve got. 60% is 60% unless you obtuse then it might be 40. 👎
              The difference being we do not have proportional representation in Canada. The Liberals won the most seats compared to any other party so they formed the government. Period. By Kenney's own admission, the equalization was only to gauge the position of Albertan's on equalization and to use as a bargaining chip in future negotiations. He did not get overwhelming endorsement of ending equalization by Albertans. And the question did not generate enough interest to significantly increase election turnout. Compare the estimated 1/3 turnout on this referendum to the 95.5% turnout on the Quebec referendum vote in 95 and you might understand why Kenney will be the laughing stock if he tries to negotiate on the basis of Albertan's support based on the UPC referendum.
              Last edited by dmlfarmer; Oct 20, 2021, 09:15.

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                #52
                Trudeaus mandate is only 15% of the population and not even the popular vote including an entire province that shunned him.

                I would say Kenny has much better support than that.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  Trudeaus mandate is only 15% of the population and not even the popular vote including an entire province that shunned him.

                  I would say Kenny has much better support than that.
                  Are you some how hoping to add Sask residents to Kenney support numbers of 22% JAZZ?
                  Last edited by foragefarmer; Oct 20, 2021, 09:41.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                    Are you some how hoping to add Sask residents in Kenney support numbers of 22% JAZZ?
                    Referendum support - not popular support. Kennys will begin to rise again now that AB has shown some fight he can get behind. He has no choice now.

                    Alberta has paid for every hydro dam, every child day care program and every EI scam in this country. $600B worth. Time to cut off the dead beats.

                    Maybe lefty Manitoba might want to take a look, or do you need a hydro dam bail out first?

                    If the feds ignore it, next vote will be for separation within 3 yrs.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Referendum support - not popular support. Kennys will begin to rise again now that AB has shown some fight he can get behind. He has no choice now.

                      Alberta has paid for every hydro dam, every child day care program and every EI scam in this country. $600B worth. Time to cut off the dead beats.

                      Maybe lefty Manitoba might want to take a look, or do you need a hydro dam bail out first?

                      If the feds ignore it, next vote will be for separation within 3 yrs.
                      I'd say our Manitoba Hydro is positioned very well with the demand and sales to USA and our dependent neighbor of SASK.


                      How's those 65 year hydro poles holding up Jazz? In wet years are you able to have more than one aeration fan running at a time?

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                        I'd say our Manitoba Hydro is positioned very well with the demand and sales to USA and our dependent neighbor of SASK.
                        Why is MB debt to gdp sitting at 100% and why are you are still taking a billion in equalization per year? That doesnt sound well positioned to me.

                        It takes an entire month of hydro sales to the US from all of Canada to equal one day of oil and gas revenues. Not even in the same league.

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                          #57
                          If your not in this area you can stay with the east.

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                            #58
                            There your mandate. Public opinion now aligned. Sounds like some antivaxxer logic being used on the anti wealth crowd.

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                              #59
                              Jazz, how come you did not include the first paragraph in that national post story which reads:

                              Nearly two-thirds of Canadians believe aspects of the equalization system are unfair to Alberta, according to a new poll from Maru Public Opinion, however, a majority of Canadians also believe equalization treats every province fairly overall.

                              Or other findings of the survey including:

                              Yet, 60 per cent countrywide — ranging from 62 per cent in Alberta to 76 per cent in Quebec, Ontario and B.C. — believe the system treats all provinces fairly.

                              Lots of contradictory results are mentioned in the story if you actually read it. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/majority-of-canadians-believe-equalization-is-unfair-to-alberta-poll#:~:text=Nearly%20two-thirds%20of%20Canadians%20believe%20aspects%20of%2 0the,also%20believe%20equalization%20treats%20ever y%20province%20fairly%20overall.
                              Last edited by dmlfarmer; Oct 20, 2021, 13:20.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                                Jazz, how come you did not include the first paragraph in that national post story which reads:

                                Nearly two-thirds of Canadians believe aspects of the equalization system are unfair to Alberta, according to a new poll from Maru Public Opinion, however, a majority of Canadians also believe equalization treats every province fairly overall.

                                Or other findings of the survey including:

                                Yet, 60 per cent countrywide — ranging from 62 per cent in Alberta to 76 per cent in Quebec, Ontario and B.C. — believe the system treats all provinces fairly.

                                Lots of contradictory results are mentioned in the story if you actually read it. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/majority-of-canadians-believe-equalization-is-unfair-to-alberta-poll#:~:text=Nearly%20two-thirds%20of%20Canadians%20believe%20aspects%20of%2 0the,also%20believe%20equalization%20treats%20ever y%20province%20fairly%20overall.
                                Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

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