Alberta electricity prices: $1/kwh

[chuckChuck]

Who the hell said "source all your electricity generating infrastructure" from China? Wind mills are made by Siemens and Vespa to name a couple of non-chinese companies. South Korea makes alot of solar panels. There are other sources than China if you want.

So China's labour and energy policies are only a concern when it comes to building solar panels? LOL

They have become huge manufactures of many things that you and I consume, but Chinese labour and energy usage only becomes an issue when convenient!

[Hamloc]

So China's labour and energy policies are only a concern when it comes to building solar panels? LOL

They have become huge manufactures of many things that you and I consume, but Chinese labour and energy usage only becomes an issue when convenient!

I am not a fan of buying Chinese made products period. When buying bearings as an example I go out of my way to buy American or Japanese made bearings. So no in my world China’s policies are not only a problem in relation to solar panels!

[chuckChuck]

Lots of non-chinese companies moved their manufacturing to China and other cheap labour, low environmental standards countries. Are you sure you know where all your bearings and parts come from or where they were manufactured?

[furrowtickler]

Lots of non-chinese companies moved their manufacturing to China and other cheap labour, low environmental standards countries. Are you sure you know where all your bearings and parts come from or where they were manufactured?

Your a lover of the carbon tax , so how much carbon tax on the coal from BC to China ? Just curious is all

[chuckChuck]

China has lots of EVs and has installed lots of solar too. They are part of the effort to reduce emissions.

They need to do alot more but we are some of the highest per capita carbon emitters on the planet! Much higher than China.

Erin Otoole supports a carbon tax as well. So does Presto Manning. Kenney and Moe both have a carbon tax on large emitters!

They must all be commie environmentalists! LOL

[Hamloc]

Lots of non-chinese companies moved their manufacturing to China and other cheap labour, low environmental standards countries. Are you sure you know where all your bearings and parts come from or where they were manufactured?

In most cases place of manufacture is on the box, now does that just mean where it is packaged, I can’t say. I know most bearings I buy from CNH are made in China, more and more John Deere is the same. Agco seems to be the best for not having Chinese made parts. It is certainly in some cases unavoidable. But as far as electricity, Canada has lots of Uranium, we have designed and built our own Nuclear power plants in the past. We have an abundance of natural gas. We have many rivers that could provide Hydroelectricity, we don’t need solar power and when we need electricity the most in December and January when it is -30 solar power isn’t the answer. I think government policy on solar is wrong and Chuck read the article!

[furrowtickler]

China has lots of EVs and has installed lots of solar too. They are part of the effort to reduce emissions.

They need to do alot more but we are some of the highest per capita carbon emitters on the planet! Much higher than China.

Erin Otoole supports a carbon tax as well. So does Presto Manning. Kenney and Moe both have a carbon tax on large emitters!

They must all be commie environmentalists! LOL

Typical , completely avoided the question and deflection . Not surprising lol

[jazz]

Typical , completely avoided the question and deflection . Not surprising lol

China has zero chance of generating its power requirements from wind and solar unless they are going to move a billion people to mongolia.

The population lives in the SE quadrant where there is a fraction of the sunlight available.
Hence the 1000 coal plants under construction and 50 nuke plants on the drawing board.

Oil will be $200 within 5 yrs. and hopefully AB and Sask are ripped from confederation by that time.

By that time the green fools will be up in the Athabasca basin trying to carve uranium out of the sheild, and oil will probably be $500.

[chuckChuck]

Jazz your record on predictions sucks big time. Remember Trump and Covid? 0 out of 10 for accuracy. LOL

Sask. and Alberta both installing lots of wind and some solar because we have lots of both resources and its cheaper and cleaner and will supplement gas, hydro and other sources. Yes we will need backup along with other sources including fossil fuels for awhile yet.

But the move to decarbonize energy sources as much as possible won't be quick or easy but it will happen whether the naysayers like it or not.

[chuckChuck]

According to the Internatiional Energy Agency cleaner renewables will play a large role in decarbonization.

Pathway to critical and formidable goal of net-zero emissions by 2050 is narrow but brings huge benefits, according to IEA special report

https://www.iea.org/news/pathway-to-critical-and-formidable-goal-of-net-zero-emissions-by-2050-is-narrow-but-brings-huge-benefits-according-to-iea-special-report https://www.iea.org/news/pathway-to-critical-and-formidable-goal-of-net-zero-emissions-by-2050-is-narrow-but-brings-huge-benefits-according-to-iea-special-report

The world has a viable pathway to building a global energy sector with net-zero emissions in 2050, but it is narrow and requires an unprecedented transformation of how energy is produced, transported and used globally, the International Energy Agency said in a landmark special report released today.

The report is the world’s first comprehensive study of how to transition to a net zero energy system by 2050 while ensuring stable and affordable energy supplies, providing universal energy access, and enabling robust economic growth. It sets out a cost-effective and economically productive pathway, resulting in a clean, dynamic and resilient energy economy dominated by renewables like solar and wind instead of fossil fuels. The report also examines key uncertainties, such as the roles of bioenergy, carbon capture and behavioural changes in reaching net zero.

In the near term, the report describes a net zero pathway that requires the immediate and massive deployment of all available clean and efficient energy technologies, combined with a major global push to accelerate innovation. The pathway calls for annual additions of solar PV to reach 630 gigawatts by 2030, and those of wind power to reach 390 gigawatts. Together, this is four times the record level set in 2020. For solar PV, it is equivalent to installing the world’s current largest solar park roughly every day. A major worldwide push to increase energy efficiency is also an essential part of these efforts, resulting in the global rate of energy efficiency improvements averaging 4% a year through 2030 – about three times the average over the last two decades.

Most of the global reductions in CO2 emissions between now and 2030 in the net zero pathway come from technologies readily available today. But in 2050, almost half the reductions come from technologies that are currently only at the demonstration or prototype phase. This demands that governments quickly increase and reprioritise their spending on research and development – as well as on demonstrating and deploying clean energy technologies – putting them at the core of energy and climate policy. Progress in the areas of advanced batteries, electrolysers for hydrogen, and direct air capture and storage can be particularly impactful.

[jazz]

Sask. and Alberta both installing lots of wind and some solar because we have lots of both resources and its cheaper and cleaner and will supplement gas, hydro and other sources. .

chuck do you actually know how to read? The recent announcements in Sask show that our province is going after biodiesel blends to be added to renewable cracked diesel along with nat gas generation which can be used locally and exported on our existing infrastructure.

Show me the multi billion dollar wind and solar announcements? Why isnt there a giant wind or solar farm being put at our existing coal plants.

You already know the answer but are too obtuse to admit it.

Did you see the $133T cost estimate for converting to wind and solar? Guess economics isnt a strong suit. LOL

[jazz]

Only delusional activists are dreaming of wind and solar.

The rest of the world isnt fing around with it. Going right after reliable baseload. 50 reactors planned and under construction. That number will be a lot higher especially if SMRs take hold.

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/plans-for-new-reactors-worldwide.aspx Plans For New Reactors Worldwide

[Sodbuster]

Only delusional activists are dreaming of wind and solar.

The rest of the world isnt fing around with it. Going right after reliable baseload. 50 reactors planned and under construction. That number will be a lot higher especially if SMRs take hold.

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/plans-for-new-reactors-worldwide.aspx Plans For New Reactors Worldwide

Don’t see Canada anywhere on the list for new Nuclear plants been built and yet our PM is one of the most vocal voices for cutting greenhouse gases but only wants to shutdown coal and gas power plants with no sustainable plan for Canada’s electrical generation, no hydro happening with the Liberals catering to the greenies and indigenous groups. But wait our PM want to phase out all gas and Diesel engines and go with electric cars and trucks, what could possibly go wrong.

[sumdumguy]

Cyber attacks have the ability to take down the US power framework, according to CNN. Hmmm, you wouldn’t think the brainiaks would have put the entire nation on one “circuit”. What would be Plan B if a catastrophic take-down would occur?

[shtferbrains]

So Chuck, if commercial class solar operates at 15% capacity factor is that equivalent to about one day a week?
So if you need power for the other 6 days do you just need another 6 similar solar set ups to cover the other 6 daysor how do you get that covered?