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jazz's Avatar Apr 6, 2021 | 19:09 1 Annual fee to be levied on EV owners.

https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/environmental-economist-says-sask-s-new-electric-vehicle-fee-is-mind-boggling-1.5376627

Funny how the climate cult crowd start crying the loudest.

I would say a solar recycle fee should be up next.

Fair is fair. Reply With Quote

  • Apr 6, 2021 | 19:41 2 How could anyone not see this coming.
    And why is the ‘mind boggling fee’ only $150/yr?
    I hope that rises. Have to pay for the roads and electricity somehow. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 6, 2021 | 19:45 3
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Annual fee to be levied on EV owners.

    https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/environmental-economist-says-sask-s-new-electric-vehicle-fee-is-mind-boggling-1.5376627

    Funny how the climate cult crowd start crying the loudest.

    I would say a solar recycle fee should be up next.

    Fair is fair.
    Realistically simple arithmetic and this charge was inevitable. Here is how I see it. Governments are giving out subsidies to buy electric vehicles, they are going pay to install hundreds perhaps thousands of charging stations and there is no road tax on the fuel used to power an electric car. Then you have a carbon tax which they could use to pay for this but they are rebating all of it to city dwellers to buy votes. Any idiot that can add 2+2 could see this coming! Never have figured out how these green ideas as they are presently structured made any financial sense(cents)!!’ Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 6, 2021 | 20:21 4 Same way they wanna use the power grid as backup for SFA?
    We’re supposed to subsidize their green dreams Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 6, 2021 | 21:20 5 Wait until the earth muffins find out we are getting a mileage tax ..... bububububu tttt I'm on solar. Every hit against govt revenue gets replaced somewhere. "Can't save the earth if you're driving". Suck it up, big oil haters. Ask and you'll receive, right in the ass. Reply With Quote

  • Apr 7, 2021 | 07:25 6 27.8 billion in debt by next March and a record $2.6 billion deficit. Yikes. So much for fiscal conservatism.

    It looks like the province is planning on a large increase in EVs. Because at a $150 per EV to replace the road tax its a symbolic drop in the bucket.

    If you want road users to pay for road repair and replacement based on the user pay approach, then an increased road tax on heavy vehicles would be more fiscally prudent because heavy trucks cause the largest amount of road damage by far.

    But don't expect this government to abandon its large public subsidies to trucking and the resource industries.

    Contrary to popular opinion on Agrisilly, it seems many Agriville posters are all in favour of subsidies as long as they get their fair share and the rest go to industries they deem needy and politically on side.
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    jazz's Avatar Apr 7, 2021 | 07:35 7 chuck, thats $150 per yr, maybe rising to $1500 in 2030, just like your stupid carbon tax.

    I mean we have to put a price on transportation, the SCC says its not a tax either. Its a user fee.

    Wait until BC and California do it.

    LMAO
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  • Apr 7, 2021 | 07:39 8 Do you know anything about the trucking industry, existing taxed fuel consumption, IFTA and/or fuel use permits, interprovincial apportionment, strategic weigh scales, and on and on? Sorry where are the subsidies? Commercial vehicles conducting trade contributing to the economy Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Apr 7, 2021 | 07:47 9 Charging heavy trucks for the roads would be like charging the sick for the hospitals.

    What economic contributions do virtue signaling tesla drivers add to our gdp?

    Lefty logic at its best. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 7, 2021 | 07:50 10 I didn't say trucking isn't essential to the economy. But heavy trucks cause by far the majority of road damage.

    But what percentage of the road tax do they pay? If roads are being rebuilt more often because of heavy trucks, are heavy trucks paying for the amount of damage they cause on a user pay model? I don't think so. But provide the numbers to prove me wrong. Reply With Quote
    Apr 7, 2021 | 07:54 11
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    27.8 billion in debt by next March and a record $2.6 billion deficit. Yikes. So much for fiscal conservatism.

    It looks like the province is planning on a large increase in EVs. Because at a $150 per EV to replace the road tax its a symbolic drop in the bucket.

    If you want road users to pay for road repair and replacement based on the user pay approach, then an increased road tax on heavy vehicles would be more fiscally prudent because heavy trucks cause the largest amount of road damage by far.

    But don't expect this government to abandon its large public subsidies to trucking and the resource industries.

    Contrary to popular opinion on Agrisilly, it seems many Agriville posters are all in favour of subsidies as long as they get their fair share and the rest go to industries they deem needy and politically on side.
    Public subsidies to trucking industry? I was talking to my trucker a week ago while we were loading. Owner operator. He said he averages 7500 litres of diesel per month. I live in Alberta but this discussion is centred in Saskatchewan so I will use your tax levels. Federally there is a 4 cent per litre tax, so that amounts to $300 per month. Provincially there is a 15 cent per litre tax so that amount to $1125 per month. Then there is the federal carbon tax which as of April 1 was raised to 10.67 cents a litre, so another $800 dollars a month and federal gst charged on top of all that. Before gst it amounts to $2225 per month just on diesel fuel, yup that looks like a subsidy! Lol! Reply With Quote

  • Apr 7, 2021 | 07:57 12 So how much of that goes to build and maintain roads? Reply With Quote
    SASKFARMER's Avatar Apr 7, 2021 | 08:03 13 BS Chuck Reply With Quote
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  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Apr 7, 2021 | 08:05 14 The fee for an EV should be $1500 a year. They use our roads and should have to pay just like the rest of us.

    Also, add a charging station you pay a flat fee of 2000 a year.

    It's time, you want to play with Batteries that are way more environmentally destructive than oil you should also have to pay for roads and infastructure.

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  • Apr 7, 2021 | 08:37 15 Chuckles you asked two questions.
    1) is trucking industry taxed? Do they pay their fair share? Yes, likely the most taxed industry in Canada
    2) what does the government do with the money? No idea, pissed away on pet projects and used to buy votes most likely.

    But I think everyone would agree that roads are in bad shape and need attention. Trudeau pissed away a fortune to foreign despots to buy UN sear, too bad that wasn’t spent within the country.

    A Consumptive and Luxury tax on toy EV’s sounds like a good start though. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 7, 2021 | 08:45 16 Need the EDIT button back to fix typos.. Reply With Quote
    Apr 7, 2021 | 09:10 17
    Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER View Post
    The fee for an EV should be $1500 a year. They use our roads and should have to pay just like the rest of us.

    Also, add a charging station you pay a flat fee of 2000 a year.

    It's time, you want to play with Batteries that are way more environmentally destructive than oil you should also have to pay for roads and infastructure.

    You pay to play.
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    Insanity knows no boundaries ... Reply With Quote

  • jazz's Avatar Apr 7, 2021 | 09:33 18
    Quote Originally Posted by LWeber View Post
    Insanity knows no boundaries ...
    ha and chuck slithers away right on time again.

    They have an electric gas combo vehicle already, its called a hybrid. Wouldnt want to enhance that technology now would we, lets just jump right to clown world and see what happens.
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  • fjlip's Avatar Apr 7, 2021 | 10:17 19 Many of us predicted/demanded a road tax on EV long ago in posts. About time, but YES x10 increasing annually, plus a HUGE recycle fee on the earth harming TOXIC batteries, up front! Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 8, 2021 | 07:41 20 I see one of the usual suspects is calling for a luxury tax on EVs. So would that luxury tax apply to expensive trucks, cars, motor homes, boats and second homes? It's a slippery slope calling new cars and trucks luxury items. I thought most of you guys were opposed to increased taxes on the well off? Reply With Quote
    SASKFARMER's Avatar Apr 8, 2021 | 07:42 21 BS CHuck Reply With Quote
    Apr 8, 2021 | 23:15 22 Well easy to see the lefties are legally blind. Every thing we eat, drive, wear, live in or consume is hauled by large trucks. So if the lefties clean there glasses they could soon see that the commercial truckers will have to raise there transportation rates to the consumer so who the hell do you think will be paying for this heavy truck tax. Man the stupid things that come out of people is mind boggling. Wow. Reply With Quote
    Apr 9, 2021 | 07:22 23 Might have to rename the Sask Party as the Regressive Conservatives. As many jurisdictions world wide and in Canada are providing incentives to electrify and reduce carbon emissions Saskatchewan is going the other way with the first road tax on EVs that looks to be a political decision.

    On the other hand, with a record deficit, the Regressives cut the royalty on associated gas production in a gift to the oil industry. Zero royalty! This royalty cut will cost taxpayers millions of dollars and the EV tax will currently bring in $60,000. Can the Regressives do math? LOL

    "Associated Natural Gas Royalty Moratorium"

    "The Province is implementing a royalty rate of zero percent for a period of five years on all natural gas produced in association with oil. The royalty moratorium begins April 1, 2021 and will remain in place for five years, with a sunset date of March 31, 2026."

    https://www.mnp.ca/en/insights/direc...get-highlights Reply With Quote
    Apr 9, 2021 | 07:40 24
    Quote Originally Posted by Taiga View Post
    Do you know anything about the trucking industry, existing taxed fuel consumption, IFTA and/or fuel use permits, interprovincial apportionment, strategic weigh scales, and on and on? Sorry where are the subsidies? Commercial vehicles conducting trade contributing to the economy
    The problem is not with the trucking industry here
    The local mill is allowed about 20% extra weight in the winter as long as it below zero
    Meanwhile the pavement is ten degrees warmer as all the global warmer sheep know
    They have totally destroyed the highway since their re-opening a few years back
    This is a lighter 9 month primary
    It wrecks the trucks and trailers too, shit flying off all the time
    It’s pure bullshit , truckers don’t wanna haul 84kmt either but they have to Reply With Quote
    Apr 9, 2021 | 07:55 25 So Case it looks like you are in agreement that the heavy trucking industry causes the most road damage? Reply With Quote
    Apr 9, 2021 | 08:08 26 sure is here, but they're forced into it Reply With Quote
    Apr 9, 2021 | 12:14 27 Yeah logging has special rules in almost every province. Forced to haul more tonnage, $ rate per tonnage is lowered, more weight, more axles, less income, harder on equipment, harder on roads, no thanks. Abusive industry. Reply With Quote