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    Deadline approaching: Ottawa wants answer from Prairies on AgriStability program

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/federal-government-deadline-agristability-program-1.5954160 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/federal-government-deadline-agristability-program-1.5954160


    Deadline approaching: Ottawa wants answer from Prairies on AgriStability program

    Federal government has proposed changes to program that protects farmers against large drops in income

    Bill Graveland · The Canadian Press · Posted: Mar 17, 2021 6:47 PM CT | Last Updated: March 17
    Federal Agriculture Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau said she's spoken with the three Prairie agriculture ministers in recent weeks and, with a deadline of April 30 for producers to join the program, it's time for an answer. (Saskatchewan Pulse Growers)

    The federal government wants a yes or no from the three Prairie provinces on proposed upgrades to a program that protects farmers against large declines in income.

    Federal Agriculture Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau held a news conference Wednesday to give an update on planned changes to the AgriStability program that would increase payouts for production losses, increased costs and effects from market conditions.

    Ottawa would continue to pay 60 per cent of the costs, but the provinces would be required to come up with extra cash to make the program work.

    "We have received positive responses from almost all other provinces in Canada, but in order to enact these changes we are still awaiting a clear response from all three Prairie provinces," Bibeau said from her home in Sherbrooke, Que.

    "We are anxious to know: Have Prairie agriculture ministers taken the proposal to their cabinet and their premiers? Are they supportive of these changes?"

    Bibeau said the current program expires in 2023 and the changes would be a short-term fix to help farmers now.

    She said it has been 110 days since Ottawa proposed to eliminate the reference margin limit, which serves to reduce a farmer's payout and to boost the compensation rate to 80 per cent.

    That would result in an annual increase in payouts of 50 per cent, or $170 million, she said. Of that, $100 million would come from Ottawa and the remaining $70 million from the provinces and territories.

    She said she's spoken with the three agriculture ministers in recent weeks and, with a deadline of April 30 for producers to join the program, it's time for an answer.

    "I would like to have a clear answer. If it's no, it's no. I hope it's going to be yes, so we know where we stand if we have to find other alternatives to support our farmers."

    Winnipeg MP Jim Carr, the federal minister responsible for the Prairies, said he's been in contact with some provincial ministers urging them to bring the matter forward.

    "These changes are still on the tables of our friends in Prairie governments. We know farmers across the country have been asking for this for a long time."

    Bibeau said she is setting up another meeting of federal, provincial and territorial agriculture ministers to discuss the matter.

    The terms of the existing program will continue if an agreement including the Prairie provinces can't be reached.

    "It will be the status quo. That would be very unfortunate."

    Saskatchewan Agriculture Minister David Marit said he hasn't talked to Bibeau since Jan. 29 and at that point had requested a followup meeting with the federal and provincial ministers.

    "It is nice to see after all this time that the federal minister is finally willing to bring her provincial and territorial colleagues back to the table to complete this important discussion on enhancements to AgriStability," Marit said in an email.

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    Alberta Agriculture Minister Devin Dreeshen said he sent a letter to Bibeau two weeks ago and had also called for another meeting to "discuss and finally vote on short-term changes to AgriStability."

    Dreeshen said he told Bibeau in the letter that making long-term improvements to business risk management programs, including short-term changes to AgriStability, was a priority.

    "To be successful such significant structural change requires adequate time and strong collaboration between [federal, provincial, territorial] governments as well as the agriculture sector," he wrote.

    #2
    Even if Agristability is flawed and unpopular, the positive changes and increased coverage proposed by the federal government and endorsed by the majority of provinces shouldn't be passed over by the prairie provinces in the middle of one of the driest periods in recent decades. Moe, Kenney and Pallister need to step up and support farmers!

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      #3
      Its pretty funny to see the ministers drag their feet. NO vision...

      They have committed to a 4 billion dollar irrigation project that the interest alone will cost more every year than the changes to agristability...

      David Marit it a phucking retard. Hence phucktard.

      But agristabilty should be scrapped.

      I use this analogy ...if I had piece of equipment that every time had to see the service department every time I started it...it would not take me 9 phucking years to get rid of it.

      I didn't read the cut and paste but will eventually...my attention was caught with the word agristability.

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        #4
        Toss it right in the dumpster, add the funds to crop insurance.

        If we had a drought on the scale of the 1930s that program still wouldnt pay out a dime. Its a waste.

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          #5
          "Bibeau said the current program expires in 2023 and the changes would be a short-term fix to help farmers now."

          Crop insurance is your first line of defense. Agristability provides a second line of defense when needed. Harper and Ritz were the ones who cut the program and now we are getting an offer to undo their mistakes and most farm groups support the improvements.

          It looks like the prairie provinces don't want to potentially spend more money on farmers and support their farmers who through no fault of their own are hit by bad weather or bad luck.

          If you don't want or like Agristability don't join! But don't go telling us how bad farming is when things go wrong. Yeah the program is slow but combined with crop insurance its better than nothing especially at 80%.
          Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 18, 2021, 08:18.

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            #6
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            "Bibeau said the current program expires in 2023 and the changes would be a short-term fix to help farmers now."

            Crop insurance is your first line of defense. Agristability provides a second line of defense when needed. Harper and Ritz were the ones who cut the program and now we are getting an offer to undo their mistakes and most farm groups support the improvements.

            The prairie provinces don't want to potentially spend more money on farmers and support their farmers who through no fault of their own are hit by bad weather or bad luck.
            Ritz gutted the program and the minions behind those moves like Dreeshen, Steinley, Rood have to admit their incompetence in order to change it...that won't happen..

            But the liberals had the opportunity with a majority to fix it...they won't ..

            Compared to what the provincial and federal governments have spent ...supporting farmers is now a drop in the pail......can't use bucket it might get confusing as to where they are dropping something.

            Zero vision.

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              #7
              Farmers and their organizations have been asking for changes to Agristability since Harper and Ritz neutered the program. Now that the feds have offered significant improvements that make the program much more useful again, the prairie provinces are still trying to decide what to do. It should be an easy decision since the feds pay 60% of the bill.

              The rest of the country is onside, but apparently prairie governments are worried about the cost of supporting farmers with the safety nets of crop insurance and Agristabilty.

              After all the clamoring on Agriville for more support for farmers, there seems to be only lukewarm support, even though almost all farm organizations are supportive of the proposed changes. Certainly agriville's frequent flyers are only a small sample of opinions, but you gotta wonder why posters are not happy about getting some of the changes that were asked for?

              With a looming drought, low soil moisture reserves across the prairies and high prices soon to be followed by lower prices, you would think that most farmers would be happy to have a much improved Agristabilty program in case were not blessed with adequate rain. Even at the current temporarily high prices half a crop won't cover all the expenses.

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                Less than an inch of soil moisture in the red zone and less than 2 inches in the pink zone.
                Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 21, 2021, 07:36.

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                  #9
                  Chuck2 here is a question for you, on this thread there is your initial post and 7 responses, of the 7 responses 4 are yours. If you were a government minion(not saying you are not lol) and you looked at agriville and you observed that a thread like yours about Agristability gets very few responses but a thread debating climate change can easily exceed a 100 responses what policies would you promote if you wanted to get elected or re-elected?!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                    Chuck2 here is a question for you, on this thread there is your initial post and 7 responses, of the 7 responses 4 are yours. If you were a government minion(not saying you are not lol) and you looked at agriville and you observed that a thread like yours about Agristability gets very few responses but a thread debating climate change can easily exceed a 100 responses what policies would you promote if you wanted to get elected or re-elected?!
                    I doubt the political parties look at Agriville to determine which policies are going to win them support and an election. They are more likely to be listening to farm organizations and their leadership.

                    Why would they care about what a motley crew of 2 dozen prolific repetitious social media users on one site think? We are irrelevant.

                    I think they are slightly more sophisticated with their polling and policy analysis.

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                      #11
                      Why didn't farmers stop Ritz when they were consulted on the way he set it up?

                      Same as when he designed the CGC program to illegally overcharge farmers 100's of millions. It took a change in gov't to bring it to light and want to clean up his mess. Some org' warned you/him but were put off as negative and being nuts.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        I doubt the political parties look at Agriville to determine which policies are going to win them support and an election. They are more likely to be listening to farm organizations and their leadership.

                        Why would they care about what a motley crew of 2 dozen prolific repetitious social media users on one site think? We are irrelevant.

                        I think they are slightly more sophisticated with their polling and policy analysis.
                        Chuck2 you constantly talk about how irrelevant posters on “agrisilly” are, why do you continue to post?!

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                          #13
                          Agriville is like going to the coffee shop to discuss the days news with a bit more depth. Sometimes interesting and fun, but not that important to the future of the world. LOL

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                            Chuck2 you constantly talk about how irrelevant posters on “agrisilly” are, why do you continue to post?!
                            Someone has to put the silly in Agrisilly. It's a tough full time job to overwhelm all the serious ag related topics with silliness, but Chuck is up to it.

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                              #15
                              A5, you have provided more than your fair share of silly.

                              What are your thoughts on the proposed changes to Agristability?

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