CGC review

[wmoebis]

Grain grading is a joke but I bet you’ll defend that.

Grading or quality control? Every country in the world has quality control. Grades are rather redundant now but we still need trained people to be able to assess quality or even run the equipment that assessed it for us. Unless we think customers are going to buy damaged and diseased product the same as they will be there quality.

[saskcanfarmer]

Grading or quality control? Every country in the world has quality control. Grades are rather redundant now but we still need trained people to be able to assess quality or even run the equipment that assessed it for us. Unless we think customers are going to buy damaged and diseased product the same as they will be there quality.

Technology/AI can virtually eliminate any and all human contact with the sample.

[wmoebis]

Should farmers pay CGC triple or more for them to do something that numerous other companies use can do?

How about bonding?

Is your job based on having the GGC antiquated grading system around? Or is that job over?

How does your biggest competition (USA) handle quality control? Not a whole lot different only thing they don't have grades they still have visual inspection but they also have universal training.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/publications/content/official-grain-inspection-weighing-system

And no I have no dog in the fight but I do know the value of our quality control system.

[saskcanfarmer]

How does your biggest competition (USA) handle quality control? Not a whole lot different only thing they don't have grades they still have visual inspection but they also have universal training.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/publications/content/official-grain-inspection-weighing-system

And no I have no dog in the fight but I do know the value of our quality control system.

So you no longer have anything to do with grain grading training or whatever it was you were doing?

[wmoebis]

So you no longer have anything to do with grain grading training or whatever it was you were doing?

Not since covid and no I'm not looking for a job.

[wmoebis]

Technology/AI can virtually eliminate any and all human contact with the sample.

Maybe so but visual assessment gives you an indication of what the end use qualities will be and the world has become confident in our system to ensure that they get what they order.

If farmers want to wait until every sample goes to a lab for quality assessment that is fine. Not sure we have the lab system set up to handle all those samples or the trained staff to run them but I'm sure it is doable. And I'm not against it but who runs and pays for these the labs?

[bucket]

saskwheat hired some former CWB guy to write something about the CGC / canada grain act...

[wmoebis]

saskwheat hired some former CWB guy to write something about the CGC / canada grain act...

The CPC hired Compas review in 2006 to do an in-depth review of the CGC then turned around and only changed the things they wanted to change and repealed anything that would have helped farmers. Let me bet that very few have ever read the Old Grain Act the Grain Act after CPC made major changes and even fewer have ever read the Compas review 2006. Here's a link but pages 14 - 16 is of real interest of what should have been done instead Sec 9 and The Office of Assistant Commissioners was repealed by the Min of AG in 2010 with nothing to replace it as suggested in their very own review.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/391/AGRI/Reports/RP2564356/agrirp05/agrirp05-e.pdf

[CptnObvious]

The bit about the CGC being in conflict because it is both a regulator and a service provider is misdirection from the grain companies. The service it supplies is to the producer and the buyer, and only incidentally to the terminal company. To them it does not have to be seen as anything other than a regulator.

[blackpowder]

The bit about the CGC being in conflict because it is both a regulator and a service provider is misdirection from the grain companies. The service it supplies is to the producer and the buyer, and only incidentally to the terminal company. To them it does not have to be seen as anything other than a regulator.

Not conflict. Needless expensive duplication.