Manitoba makes deal to buy Canadian-made COVID-19 vaccine

[dmlfarmer]

I think dml, you said the federal govt had this covered so I would think there is no reason for Pallister to get involved. If we have 400M vaccine doses secured, we should be good, right?

Then why did he start his own program?

I only told you what Canada ordered. I have no details on delivery or contract details and neither do you. And I don't know why Pallister decided to purchase what he did, for delivery if it is approved when ever that will be, why don't you ask him. I

[fjlip]

"I have no details on delivery or contract details "

Neither does your bestie the TURD!

[Oliver88]

I think dml, you said the federal govt had this covered so I would think there is no reason for Pallister to get involved. If we have 400M vaccine doses secured, we should be good, right?

Then why did he start his own program?

DMLfarmer has been telling us Trudeau has everything under control. 🤡

Count on every premier to be ordering vaccines.

[blackpowder]

Attitudes at all levels are different now compared to 85 years ago, and I agree govts job is to monitor.
But anyone with any fair mind at all can see what govts are not good at.
Who did govts turn to for wartime production solutions in two world wars?
Has anyone owned a Belarus?
I rest my case.
Demanding govts to take complete control of everything is actually a century out of step and quite narrow minded at that. Touching on imbecilic really.
It works in China. But this ain't China.

[Austrian Economics]

What you suggest would be a huge step backwards.

I am sure you would love a system where the richest people get to pay for early access with no plan for the poor elderly folks who are at much higher risk?

The BC Casino CEO who flew to the Yukon with his wife/girlfriend to fraudulently get his "free" vacinne lost his job in shame.

So what if the rich get early access? They drive nicer cars than I do, but that has no impact on my ability to purchase a Chevy.

Every day countless Canadians purchase inexpensive, widely available pharmaceuticals, simply because a price system is allowed to exist for these items. They are not sold via auction; rich people pay the same as anyone else.

Since the rich are allegedly about 1% of the population, that would only hold up the line for a few days at most.

Any other system condemns people to a life as Soviet peasants.

[chuckChuck]

Austria do you hear Erin O'toole campaigning on the promise to charge the public for their covid vaccines so that rich folks can get quicker access without waiting in line? That will be an election winning policy! Not! LOL

Do any provinces charge for the flu vaccine? Probably not because it is good public policy to make sure cost is not a barrier to reducing the spread of seasonal flu. It will be the same for covid.

Covid vaccines will be required every year. There will be multiple ways to get the vaccine in the future using doctors, clinics and pharmacies.

[Austrian Economics]

Austria do you hear Erin O'toole campaigning on the promise to charge the public for their covid vaccines so that rich folks can get quicker access without waiting in line? That will be an election winning policy! Not! LOL

Do any provinces charge for the flu vaccine? Probably not because it is good public policy to make sure cost is not a barrier to reducing the spread of seasonal flu. It will be the same for covid.

Covid vaccines will be required every year. There will be multiple ways to get the vaccine in the future using doctors, clinics and pharmacies.

I couldn't care less about O'Toole or his election platform. The truth or falsity of a proposition is not measured by how many voters support it.

[dmlfarmer]

So what if the rich get early access? They drive nicer cars than I do, but that has no impact on my ability to purchase a Chevy.

Every day countless Canadians purchase inexpensive, widely available pharmaceuticals, simply because a price system is allowed to exist for these items. They are not sold via auction; rich people pay the same as anyone else.

Since the rich are allegedly about 1% of the population, that would only hold up the line for a few days at most.

Any other system condemns people to a life as Soviet peasants.

Isn't this the system we have now? Afterall, 3/4ths of the covid vaccinations that have been administered to date have gone to just 10 countries. 130 countries have not yet administered a single vaccine (as of Feb 4th)

Those 10 countries: US, UK, some EU nations, Israel, China, and Russia are among the richest nations, they had pre ordered more vaccines than they need, and they have existing vaccine manufacturing facilities.

The rich and powerful are getting the vaccines first - on a nation basis

[Austrian Economics]

Isn't this the system we have now? Afterall, 3/4ths of the covid vaccinations that have been administered to date have gone to just 10 countries. 130 countries have not yet administered a single vaccine (as of Feb 4th)

Those 10 countries: US, UK, some EU nations, Israel, China, and Russia are among the richest nations, they had pre ordered more vaccines than they need, and they have existing vaccine manufacturing facilities.

The rich and powerful are getting the vaccines first - on a nation basis

By rich and powerful, do you mean nations which instituted industrial economic systems which are capable of mass production of vaccines and other scientific advancements? This is why they are rich and powerful. It's a feature of a rational economic system, not a bug. So of course these nations will be able to acquire vaccines much faster than nations mired in economic systems which facilitate central planning, corruption and decay.

Unfortunately the present Canadian government seems hell bent on instituting a corrupt, decaying economic model. Hence our pathetic vaccine rollout.

[VK58]

By rich and powerful, do you mean nations which instituted industrial economic systems which are capable of mass production of vaccines and other scientific advancements? This is why they are rich and powerful. It's a feature of a rational economic system, not a bug. So of course these nations will be able to acquire vaccines much faster than nations mired in economic systems which facilitate central planning, corruption and decay.

Unfortunately the present Canadian government seems hell bent on instituting a corrupt, decaying economic model. Hence our pathetic vaccine rollout.

The solution to the all the chaos will be through the countries with the most available resources, history has always been that way. The sooner the supposed rich countries get back to normal the better it will be for the rest of them. Not sure we would ever get out of our basements if it was the reverse

[jazz]

In depth article about this company.

Says production by summer? Am I reading that right?

https://steinbachonline.com/local/manitoba-s-incoming-covid-19-vaccine-believed-to-be-best-in-class Manitoba’s Incoming COVID-19 Vaccine Believed To Be “Best In Class”

Providence will be manufacturing their vaccines at Emergent BioSolutions in Winnipeg. They have been contracted by Premier Brian Pallister’s government to produce doses for every Manitoban. When operations are running smoothly this summer, Sorenson says they will be able to create up to half a million vaccines every day.

[Spyguy]

So now the Covid deniers and anti lockdown proponents are pissed that there is not enough vaccines to go around? First it was a hoax, now its' all Trudeau's fault that Moderna and Pfizer stopped shipping as much vaccine as promised?

Just more of the usual politics.

Brian Pallister is just pissed because he couldn't spend his winter in Costa Rica! He should have been building Manitoba vaccine production capacity in the last few years instead of holidaying in Costa Rica.

Can’t believe the radical left cant admit that our leader has failed and not only in one department. It’s actually funny to watch them twist and manipulate the facts. Face it boys and girls he is no good and never will be for the Canadian citizens and the economy. He has no qualifications to even apply for the job.

[Guest]

Isn't this the system we have now? Afterall, 3/4ths of the covid vaccinations that have been administered to date have gone to just 10 countries. 130 countries have not yet administered a single vaccine (as of Feb 4th)

Those 10 countries: US, UK, some EU nations, Israel, China, and Russia are among the richest nations, they had pre ordered more vaccines than they need, and they have existing vaccine manufacturing facilities.

The rich and powerful are getting the vaccines first - on a nation basis

Except for canada

[fjlip]

Can’t believe the radical left cant admit that our leader has failed and not only in one department. It’s actually funny to watch them twist and manipulate the facts. Face it boys and girls he is no good and never will be for the Canadian citizens and the economy. He has no qualifications to even apply for the job.

Agree X 100! Enjoy...

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[Austrian Economics]

When I was reading these stories, I started to ask an obvious question: if facilities already exist in Manitoba for the production of vaccines, why haven't they already started producing them?

The answer: under the auspices of the Canada Health Act, it's undoubtedly illegal for anyone to offer a vaccine for sale privately. Thus, no vaccine producer is going to start up production of a vaccine without first having a contract with someone to pay for it.

Since sales to private citizens and/or for-profit vendors is out of the question, that leaves only one alternative: your company sits and waits until some government agency takes notice of you, enters into a lengthy period of negotiation and finally signs a contract. It doesn't matter if your product can meet an urgent consumer demand; the main criteria is meeting whatever budget a government authority has deemed adequate.