• You will need to login or register before you can post a message. If you already have an Agriville account login by clicking the login icon on the top right corner of the page. If you are a new user you will need to Register.

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Vaccines WTF

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #16
    Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
    Anonymous says:
    January 31, 2021 at 4:48 pm
    The Video posted below by Baron is very disturbing;

    https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=60617

    "It’s the testimony of a Nursing Home carer in the US who is claiming that after a year (2020) of no covid deaths in the home, the Pfizer vaccine was administered to residents and within 2 or 3 weeks 14 residents had died and many more are dying. There have been no deaths in the residents that refused the virus.

    It may be a hoax.

    The Carer is James he quotes another nursing home that has seen a similar but more serious response to their vaccine roll out; 24 dead, over a third of the residents.

    https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/24-residents-dead-in-3-weeks-as-one-third-of-uk-nursing-home-residents-die-after-experimental-mrna-covid-injections/

    A day after the same media published this;

    https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cdc-329-recorded-deaths-so-far-following-experimental-covid-mrna-injections-in-the-u-s/

    I don’t trust the the US government to freely tell the truth about what is really happening, they do suppress unwanted news, but I trust the UK even less.

    The good thing is (if any good can be attached to this nightmare) that this is a very recent scare and is literally developing as I type, so news will leak out next week or so if there is any substance to it.

    Anyone considering a jab in the next week or two, particularly the old and infirm, might want to delay that decision to see where this story goes."

    But don't trust social media.

    Read reports that there are no deaths from the flu this year... hu... how is this possible?
    DYODD

    If ANY truth in these reports... at all...Commodity Markets would be affected Wildly...

    What is the PMO up to?

    Complete Travel ban to end of April?

    Reorder of Vaccines?

    Something is up... this is way too weird ... Premiers know something too?

    Comment


      #17
      If one 90yr old dies with coronavirus well the media will play that story day and night, interview the family, the doctors etc.

      If 30 die after getting the vaccine well thats not news worthy.

      Comment


        #18
        Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
        DYODD

        If ANY truth in these reports... at all...Commodity Markets would be affected Wildly...

        What is the PMO up to?

        Complete Travel ban to end of April?

        Reorder of Vaccines?

        Something is up... this is way too weird ... Premiers know something too?
        BBC Report:

        https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55734257


        Israel, one of the top countries when it comes to vaccinating against Covid-19, bought large stocks of the jab in exchange for acting as the world's guinea pig.
        And scientists are watching data shared by the country keenly, for signs of how effective the vaccine is when given to a whole population.
        So there was understandable concern when the man coordinating Israel's Covid response reportedly suggested a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine might not be as effective as reported.
        Thousands of people have tested positive after being jabbed. But are worries premature?
        Israel leads virus vaccine race with 12% given jab
        Why has South Africa not started vaccinating?
        The vaccination drive targeting younger people
        Covid vaccine safety explained
        Addressing Prof Nachman Ash's quotes, the Israeli Ministry of Health said: "The comments of the Israeli Covid-19 commissioner regarding the effect of the first dose of the vaccine were out of context and, therefore, inaccurate.
        "The commissioner said we have yet to see a decrease in the number of severely ill patients."
        The "full protective impact of the vaccine" was expected to be seen soon, a spokesperson added.
        After vaccination, the body needs time to recognise the virus's genetic material and mount an immune response - producing the antibodies and T-cells that block the virus from entering cells and killing off those cells that do become infected.
        And it takes a minimum of two weeks - but probably more - to really take effect, immunologists including Prof Danny Altmann at Imperial College London, say.
        Some of the people who were hospitalised in recent weeks will have received a first dose of the vaccine. But that's not necessarily a sign it hasn't been effective.
        Given the time it takes for immunity to build and unvaccinated people to become exposed to the virus, incubate it and develop symptoms, the national data would not be expected to reflect the impact of vaccination for at least a month.
        'Early protection'
        Clalit, Israel's largest healthcare provider, covering most of the population, compared the medical records of 200,000 vaccinated over-60s with the same number belonging to unvaccinated people.
        For two weeks after the first dose, both groups tested positive for the virus at roughly the same rate.
        But then those vaccinated started to show 33% fewer new infections than the others.
        "This is very early protection," said Clalit chief innovation officer, Ran Balicher, who is also a public health professor advising the government.
        And "already there is a 33% fall".
        Infections continued to decline after that.
        But there were too few for Prof Balicher to calculate by what percentage.
        Same trend
        The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine's Prof Stephen Evans said: "It is not sensible to compare efficacy derived from an observational study of this type, which is subject to many biases, with the efficacy derived from randomised trials [such as those performed to test the vaccine in the first place]."
        But the early evidence does follow roughly the same trend seen in Pfizer's clinical trials, which involved tens of thousands of people.
        In those trials, the rate of new infections in the vaccinated and control groups also diverged after two weeks.
        And that gap kept widening for more than 100 days after the first dose.
        Severe Covid
        Israel began vaccinating on 19 December, reaching 10% of its population by the end of 2020.
        And now, about half a million of its nine million population have received two doses.
        Prof Balicher suggests some impact on severe Covid illness across Israel could be expected to be seen later this week.
        Less effective
        Pfizer hopes two doses of the vaccine will give up to 95% protection.
        But even a much less effective vaccine could make the difference between a survivable illness and a fatal one.
        The annual flu vaccine is about 40-60% effective.
        And it stops hundreds of thousands of people from dying every year.
        Fatal disease
        "Efficacy against detected Covid-19 may be less important... than efficacy against hospitalisation and death," Prof Evans said.
        And more people were likely to be protected from a severity of illness requiring admission to hospital than infection rates alone suggested.
        The Clalit data, for example, does not distinguish between mild or symptomless infections and more severe or even fatal disease.
        The judgement made in the UK was more lives could be saved by giving a larger group one dose quicker than giving a smaller group the maximum protection conferred by two doses.
        And Prof Evans said: "The reports that have come from Israel are insufficient to provide any evidence that the current UK policy in regard to delaying the second dose of vaccines is in any way incorrect."

        Comment


          #19
          I don't pay much attention to all the covid noise from outside our small region anymore but the Israeli data is going to be worth watching.

          Comment


            #20
            Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
            Instead of allowing individuals to purchase their vaccines for a fee from private practitioners, the government has decided that the rollout must be centrally planned. Remember, these are the same folks that created "hallway medicine".

            It's the medical equivalent of Soviet agriculture.

            Expect frequent and inexplicable delays and a series of rolling deadlines.

            Covid vaccines for a fee? That would be a step backwards.

            In the US the Federal and State governments are also involved and overseeing the rollout.

            The biggest problem is a shortage of vaccines and more demand than current supply. Last year it looked like we wouldn't have vaccines until later this year. And of course now that we have some everybody thinks they should be first. The first 2 vaccines have been the ones with a strict storage regime.

            Vaccinating billions of people is going to take time. Canada will provide surplus vaccines to the developing world.

            Here's How The U.S. Can Jump-Start Its Sluggish COVID-19 Vaccine Rollout

            https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/08/954662748/heres-how-the-u-s-can-jump-start-its-sluggish-covid-19-vaccine-rollout https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/08/954662748/heres-how-the-u-s-can-jump-start-its-sluggish-covid-19-vaccine-rollout

            "So far, the vaccines have been mostly delivered to hospitals to reach front-line health workers and long-term care facilities for residents and staff.

            But several states, including New Jersey and Texas, are starting up "mega-sites" — vaccination clinics designed to vaccinate hundreds or thousands of people each day. More of these venues will likely crop up across the country as federal funding allows health officials to hire temporary staff and pay for space and supplies, and as soon as the supply of vaccine is steady enough to keep these clinics stocked at full volume.

            There should be "mass vaccination clinics in high school gymnasiums, convention centers and mall parking lots in every county in America," says Yale's Schwartz. These types of sites will be essential as the pool of people eligible to get vaccinated expands.

            The key to making this work at the scale needed is federal funding and logistical support, Schwartz argues, since hospitals are already overstretched caring for COVID-19 patients, and local and state governments don't have the money to pull it off on their own."

            Comment


              #21
              comrad chuckie you are so smart where can I puke. I don't want the vaccine.

              Comment


                #22
                I love how the goal posts keeping moving. First it was flatten the curve and now its the vaccine will just keep you from going to the hospital but it wont stop you from getting infected or being infectious.

                Setting the stage for endless mini lockdowns, facemasks and social distancing forever.

                Comment


                  #23
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  I love how the goal posts keeping moving. First it was flatten the curve and now its the vaccine will just keep you from going to the hospital but it wont stop you from getting infected or being infectious.

                  Setting the stage for endless mini lockdowns, facemasks and social distancing forever.
                  From China, with love.

                  Comment


                    #24
                    Originally posted by burnt View Post
                    From China, with love.
                    The WHO is in Wuhan, investigating/getting threatened or bribed to repeat the lies, hide the truth, about a manufactured virus that either got away or was intentionally sent around the world with military brass meeting there in Oct 2019. Nothing but suspicious crap.

                    More statistics, on how few typically die, more will after vaccination.

                    https://twitter.com/i/status/1355805399019114497 https://twitter.com/i/status/1355805399019114497
                    Last edited by fjlip; Feb 1, 2021, 13:04.

                    Comment


                      #25

                      Just some humor.

                      Comment


                        #26
                        Originally posted by blackpowder View Post

                        Just some humor.
                        Probably better..

                        Comment


                          #27
                          Predictable side effects, long term test results.

                          Comment


                            #28
                            Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                            The surplus money left over from the balanced Budget.

                            Good thing Liberals are passing new assisted suicide legislation. [sarcasm]

                            So Tom4Tom the champion of property rights.

                            I'm very interested, are you against the passing of medically assisted suicide in Canada?

                            Comment


                              #29
                              Cheer up all
                              This vaccine **** up will finish this sorry sack of shit off

                              Comment


                                #30
                                Originally posted by caseih View Post
                                Cheer up all
                                This vaccine **** up will finish this sorry sack of shit off
                                Hear, hear! I second that motion. All in favour may be the problem.

                                Comment

                                • Reply to this Thread
                                • Return to Topic List
                                Working...