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    Status of Keystone XL?

    Can report that the majority of the steel is in the ground from Hardisty to the SK/AB border.

    The border crossing is complete:
    https://www.tcenergy.com/operations/oil-and-liquids/keystone-xl/Project-Updates/Updates-feed/2020/us-canada-border-crossing-completed/ https://www.tcenergy.com/operations/oil-and-liquids/keystone-xl/Project-Updates/Updates-feed/2020/us-canada-border-crossing-completed/

    Questions that I'm struggling to find info on:

    1) How much of the US side pipe is in the ground?
    2) How much of the SK/AB border to SK/MT border is complete? Is there anyone along the right of way in SK that has an idea as to how things are going?

    There is still a decent amount of money that is going to have to get spent remediating the right of way.

    Workers went to work today from Oyen, but we'll see in the next couple days whether the parking lot continues to fill up every morning or not. Im thinking pink slips will be going out for the majority of the workforce. Wouldn't surprise me if they lift the camp right out of Oyen, and leave the remediation work to private companies.

    Perhaps this is nothing more than, "the art of the deal"? Biden slams the door, drags TC to the bargaining table, gets concessions that he can sell to the green wing of his party, then eventually let it go through?

    #2
    Im seeing that Saskatchewan mainline construction activity isn't supposed to start until Q3 2021?

    https://www.tcenergy.com/siteassets/pdfs/oils-and-liquids/keystone-xl/keystone-xl-canada.pdf https://www.tcenergy.com/siteassets/pdfs/oils-and-liquids/keystone-xl/keystone-xl-canada.pdf

    Galaxie500 or anyone else in that burstall to val-marie corridor know if that's the case?

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      #3
      That section Hardisty to Sk border is paralleling the original keystone project so that line might have some use after all as a loop or even just storage. I am sure TC had some expectation of this happening.

      Isnt there a major rail upgrade happening at Oyen? Some synergies possible. Thats too much investment to walk away from. Maybe a co-located tank farm and rail it out.

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        #4
        If it is just the border crossing that requires presidential approval, and the product is still in demand at the final destination, then who stops them from loading from pipeline into train cars at the border, then back into a pipeline on US side, and continues the trip unimpeded?

        Dumber things have been done to work around bureaucracy. Most of the EU functions like that.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          That section Hardisty to Sk border is paralleling the original keystone project so that line might have some use after all as a loop or even just storage. I am sure TC had some expectation of this happening.

          Isnt there a major rail upgrade happening at Oyen? Some synergies possible. Thats too much investment to walk away from. Maybe a co-located tank farm and rail it out.
          The size of that pipe you could load multiple trains a day running the pipeline on an idle.

          Oyen to Saskatoon line has many 5 to 10 mph speed limit sections. It’s in need of some work.

          No rail from Oyen west anymore.

          Secure has a multi million dollar oil loading rail spur at Beadle Sask that hasn’t had much use in a couple years.

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            #6
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            That section Hardisty to Sk border is paralleling the original keystone project so that line might have some use after all as a loop or even just storage. I am sure TC had some expectation of this happening.

            Isnt there a major rail upgrade happening at Oyen? Some synergies possible. Thats too much investment to walk away from. Maybe a co-located tank farm and rail it out.
            Alberta government is fronting the cash to do the AB section. Will likely be the only part built now.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              That section Hardisty to Sk border is paralleling the original keystone project so that line might have some use after all as a loop or even just storage. I am sure TC had some expectation of this happening.

              Isnt there a major rail upgrade happening at Oyen? Some synergies possible. Thats too much investment to walk away from. Maybe a co-located tank farm and rail it out.
              They haven't done any "upgrades" at Oyen yet... CN hasn't exactly pumped alot of money into the stretch especially from Kindersley to Oyen. As far as sidings at Oyen are concerned, there is a plan to punch an additional siding in to unload wind turbines. Yes, god's country is going to get plastered with the largest wind turbines in Canada.

              The Sharphills project halfway between Oyen and Consort is approved for 71 4.2MW nacelles. 300MW installed.

              Lanfine project is expected to be ~90 3.2MW nacelles for ~290MW installed.

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                #8
                Maybe all it takes to deal with sleepy Joe is someone appointed to the board with lots of experience with convenience payments like say maybe Hunter.

                Lots of experience and proven untouchable.

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                  #9
                  Trudeau will be smiling as he knows Alberta is getting screwed over by sleepy Joe.

                  Canada can sue the US government due to the USMCA.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                    Trudeau will be smiling as he knows Alberta is getting screwed over by sleepy Joe.

                    Canada can sue the US government due to the USMCA.
                    I thought they could but read the article from Geoffrey Morgan in the Sun.
                    Think they may be screwed.

                    https://calgarysun.com/commodities/tc-energy-and-alberta-face-long-odds-if-they-sue-u-s-government-over-cancelled-keystone-xl/wcm/cc7c35ac-24aa-41a4-8c68-46b03c830bc5 https://calgarysun.com/commodities/tc-energy-and-alberta-face-long-odds-if-they-sue-u-s-government-over-cancelled-keystone-xl/wcm/cc7c35ac-24aa-41a4-8c68-46b03c830bc5
                    or the most pertinent point
                    The amended presidential permit Trump signed on July 29, 2020, specifically states Keystone’s “permit may be terminated, revoked, or amended at any time at the sole discretion of the President, with or without advice provided by any executive department or agency.”
                    Last edited by mcfarms; Jan 20, 2021, 23:09.

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                      #11
                      This whole thing shows how Stupid Democrats really are.


                      59000 jobs will be created building the USA portion.

                      The money will be paid to ranchers and farmers along the way.

                      Follow the money.

                      Buffet and his toy train empire will reap the rewards and who does the old fool support.

                      Our idiot sits back and did nothing because if you haven't figured it out yet we mean nothing to Canada.

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                        #12
                        Energy will be just like covid. Create a scenario where the people demand action due to fear or pain. its the easiest way to bring in policy.

                        So you will see sleepy Joe ban fracking next probably. That should send crude higher. Then a nice little side deal with the Saudis to not add barrels. Add in a war probably in Syria this time with the US in there for real. And poof pain at the pumps and shortages too.

                        People get freaked, demand change, we want renewables, now. Make some $10T debt laden crash program to start it.

                        This is all basically the equivalent of wartime spending without the war (yet).

                        But the average dude on the street has no idea of the realities of this change. We are talking doubling infrastructure and electric metal production to make this switch to renewables facilities that only have a 20yr life. Thats going to take a lot of oil to do and then it will have to do it again in 2040 to replace it all.

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                          #13
                          Will Skippy put tariffs on the USA or do any retaliation measures on the USA now that they are attacking our oil industry? Or will he say that he tried and Alberta should go to hell?

                          Recall what he did when Ontario/Quebec aluminum & steel industry was attacked. Also look at how many laws Trudeau broke to help the scandal ridden SNC-Lavalin.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                            Will Skippy put tariffs on the USA or do any retaliation measures on the USA now that they are attacking our oil industry? Or will he say that he tried and Alberta should go to hell?

                            Recall what he did when Ontario/Quebec aluminum & steel industry was attacked. Also look at how many laws Trudeau broke to help the scandal ridden SNC-Lavalin.
                            Well Enbridge L5 could be the next target which supplies Sarnia feedstock and gasoline for Ontario and Quebec and jet fuel for Toronto. Michigan gets lots of supply from it as well.

                            Eastern canada would have to bring products in from offshore in the maritimes which we could tanker there through transmountain via Panama. No wonder Alberta was adamant about getting at least that pipeline built. Opens up a lot of flexibility.

                            No new pipelines will ever be built again but trying to shut down existing ones is a new game from the left.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                              Will Skippy put tariffs on the USA or do any retaliation measures on the USA now that they are attacking our oil industry? Or will he say that he tried and Alberta should go to hell?

                              Recall what he did when Ontario/Quebec aluminum & steel industry was attacked. Also look at how many laws Trudeau broke to help the scandal ridden SNC-Lavalin.
                              The PM will aggressively attack the US with jaw dropping tariffs on their products entering Canada because he stands behind each and every Canadian.

                              This means a 22% tariff on all illegal guns and a 24% tariff on all US flags entering Canada.

                              And if that doesn't change their mind on Keystone he will hit them with a 3% tariff on office staples sold outside of Quebec .

                              Please vote responsibly.
                              Last edited by rumrocks; Jan 21, 2021, 14:24.

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