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Jan 14, 2021 | 01:50 1 In the name of road safety understand reason.

$185 fine in my state as of tommorow eating while driving, drinking a coffee or soda.

Death of drive through diners.

I always take a travel mug with me in morning.

Not that we have a police presence here.

But have to be careful in larger towns.

Revenue raising maybe safer roads hopefully.

Feel sorry for long haul truckers. Reply With Quote
Jan 14, 2021 | 06:10 2 "Open liquor" charges now expanded to "open coffee"? Reply With Quote
Jan 14, 2021 | 07:08 3 I close my eyes 12,000 times a day. Probably shouldn't be on the road....(Sarcasm) Reply With Quote
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    Jan 14, 2021 | 08:10 4 Welcome to the police state. Governments are trying to increase fine revenue by using chinaflu as the excuse. Everything you do is now deemed illegal. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 08:38 5 Now that’s plain crazy. Reply With Quote
    GDR
    Jan 14, 2021 | 08:38 6 Distracted driving law here has been in force a few years now (includes food and drink) Surprisingly hasn't affected drive through volume. I have no concerns about safety while I'm eating but most of the population cant handle driving safely with both hands on the wheel.

    Was a case in the news of a woman fighting her ticket that got a fair bit of media attention because she felt it was her right, not sure how it turned out. She was eating hot soup, one hand holding the bowl, the other holding the spoon.
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    Jan 14, 2021 | 08:53 7
    Quote Originally Posted by GDR View Post
    Distracted driving law here has been in force a few years now (includes food and drink) Surprisingly hasn't affected drive through volume. I have no concerns about safety while I'm eating but most of the population cant handle driving safely with both hands on the wheel.

    Was a case in the news of a woman fighting her ticket that got a fair bit of media attention because she felt it was her right, not sure how it turned out. She was eating hot soup, one hand holding the bowl, the other holding the spoon.
    Yeah great point about how different ppl have different abilities. Some can text and drive safely, some can’t even tune the radio without swerving recklessly.

    I say part of the driving test should include texting while driving, eating a Big Mac with Canadian beef, and shaving. Then those of us who pass, can get exemptions when stopped, because we have a n upper class, let’s call it an FDP license. (Food, drink and phone) Reply With Quote
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    GDR

  • Jan 14, 2021 | 08:54 8 Smoking in the car is illegal if some passengers are children under 16 I think in many countries, for health reasons. Smoking while driving should be illegal regardless
    Its a worse impediment than eating or drinking I think. Many vehicles haven't had ashtrays for years now. So that means no more cup holders? Reply With Quote
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    GDR

  • Jan 14, 2021 | 09:00 9 There’s hardly anyone on the roads and streets any more. Reply With Quote
    GDR
    Jan 14, 2021 | 09:25 10
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    Yeah great point about how different ppl have different abilities. Some can text and drive safely, some can’t even tune the radio without swerving recklessly.

    I say part of the driving test should include texting while driving, eating a Big Mac with Canadian beef, and shaving. Then those of us who pass, can get exemptions when stopped, because we have a n upper class, let’s call it an FDP license. (Food, drink and phone)
    I can and do all those things with ease and safely. But you forgot the most important things to do while driving, look at the crops, rubber neck when the neighbour buys a new piece of equipment, crane your neck to see if that cow is dead or calving, roll down the window, yell and honk the horn at that cow pushing through the barb wire, hold your hand up to block the sun out of your eyes while trying to see if that combine is making dust or he us just taking it off tough. Sure hope they dont make a special test to do those safely cause think I might be walking! Reply With Quote

  • Jan 14, 2021 | 09:26 11
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    Yeah great point about how different ppl have different abilities. Some can text and drive safely, some can’t even tune the radio without swerving recklessly.

    I say part of the driving test should include texting while driving, eating a Big Mac with Canadian beef, and shaving. Then those of us who pass, can get exemptions when stopped, because we have a n upper class, let’s call it an FDP license. (Food, drink and phone)
    Ever seen the Mr Bean episode with him being late and dressing in the car ? Priceless !


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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 09:30 12
    Quote Originally Posted by GDR View Post
    I can and do all those things with ease and safely. But you forgot the most important things to do while driving, look at the crops, rubber neck when the neighbour buys a new piece of equipment, crane your neck to see if that cow is dead or calving, roll down the window, yell and honk the horn at that cow pushing through the barb wire, hold your hand up to block the sun out of your eyes while trying to see if that combine is making dust or he us just taking it off tough. Sure hope they dont make a special test to do those safely cause think I might be walking!

    Hate to admit it, but that’s my habit too. Reply With Quote
    Jan 14, 2021 | 09:34 13
    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    There’s hardly anyone on the roads and streets any more.
    ?
    Soon only 'legal' to " 'drive'" a Tesla self driving car in cities?

    Covid-19 made more 'changes' in a year than decades preceding...

    How soon Will they monitor drivers tractors and combines... [will need a special licence and learners permit with graduated farm operating permit]?

    Stats Canada now after capacity of each of our grain bins... and how full they are...! After us for calling 2 months 7 days a week....Feds $1K fines since 2015 for not 'giving info...I don't answer land line... get rid of it?

    Insanity...
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 09:38 14 I told the stupid idiots I was out of the country Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Jan 14, 2021 | 09:39 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Lurking View Post
    Smoking in the car is illegal if some passengers are children under 16 I think in many countries, for health reasons. Smoking while driving should be illegal regardless
    Its a worse impediment than eating or drinking I think. Many vehicles haven't had ashtrays for years now. So that means no more cup holders?
    Smoking while driving should be illegal eh?
    Does your wife mind that you can't kiss and duck at the same time?
    Either way, more for the enforcing officer's discretion. Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Jan 14, 2021 | 09:45 16
    Quote Originally Posted by TOM4CWB View Post
    ?
    Soon only 'legal' to " 'drive'" a Tesla self driving car in cities?

    Covid-19 made more 'changes' in a year than decades preceding...

    How soon Will they monitor drivers tractors and combines... [will need a special licence and learners permit with graduated farm operating permit]?

    Stats Canada now after capacity of each of our grain bins... and how full they are...! After us for 2 months 7 calling days a week....

    Insanity...
    Tom, I haven't responded to them in 5 years now.
    If the fine only $450, cheap.
    Best money spent on useless land line number.
    Seems more to that story though.
    Better yet, pay an annual fee for our inventory to be instantly updated in cloud, with all financials?
    Good luck. Reply With Quote
    LEP
    Jan 14, 2021 | 10:01 17 I live in town and drive 15 miles to the farm. Depending on the need for parts, I might make that trip a couple more times a day. Atleast half of the drivers I meet on the road are looking down at their phone.

    I was thinking of installing a train airhorn on my work truck and when I meet someone with their eyes looking down, give them a blast.

    Wake them up to the task at hand.
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 10:08 18
    Quote Originally Posted by Toast View Post
    Ever seen the Mr Bean episode with him being late and dressing in the car ? Priceless !


    Yes. Was thinking of him when I posted that.

    He passed. Reply With Quote
    Blaithin's Avatar Jan 14, 2021 | 10:45 19
    Quote Originally Posted by GDR View Post
    Distracted driving law here has been in force a few years now (includes food and drink) Surprisingly hasn't affected drive through volume. I have no concerns about safety while I'm eating but most of the population cant handle driving safely with both hands on the wheel.

    Was a case in the news of a woman fighting her ticket that got a fair bit of media attention because she felt it was her right, not sure how it turned out. She was eating hot soup, one hand holding the bowl, the other holding the spoon.
    Food and drink is at the officers discretion isn't it? Or something like that. It’s not an out and out ban on eating and drinking. But if you’re driving erratically and showing signs of being distracted you can get a ticket.

    On the phone is a ticket no matter what.

    I think back over the years and how many people I’ve heard of die because they were reaching for a CD on the passenger side and crashed or over corrected and crashed. CDs may be one of the most lethal things considering they weren’t really around for that long. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 10:51 20
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaithin View Post
    Food and drink is at the officers discretion isn't it? Or something like that. It’s not an out and out ban on eating and drinking. But if you’re driving erratically and showing signs of being distracted you can get a ticket.

    On the phone is a ticket no matter what.

    I think back over the years and how many people I’ve heard of die because they were reaching for a CD on the passenger side and crashed or over corrected and crashed. CDs may be one of the most lethal things considering they weren’t really around for that long.
    No...Vanity mirrors on sunvisors while at the wheel is much more ominous.
    Gotta look purdy .
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    Jan 14, 2021 | 10:53 21
    Quote Originally Posted by LEP View Post
    I live in town and drive 15 miles to the farm. Depending on the need for parts, I might make that trip a couple more times a day. Atleast half of the drivers I meet on the road are looking down at their phone.

    I was thinking of installing a train airhorn on my work truck and when I meet someone with their eyes looking down, give them a blast.

    Wake them up to the task at hand.

    In cases like that their not even going the speed limit either, meaning tailgating starts happening.

    Lep, the horn is a great idea, as when I pass driver's texting while driving that's what they get from me, the horn

    That's the reason why texting or talking on the cell phone is illegal here in Manitoba, they cause accidents.

    Anybody thinking they have the ability to do so and still drive effectively is only fooling themselves. Reply With Quote
    Blaithin's Avatar Jan 14, 2021 | 11:02 22
    Quote Originally Posted by Toast View Post
    No...Vanity mirrors on sunvisors when females are at the wheel is much more ominous.
    I’ve never heard of a fatal crash from the use of a vanity mirror.

    For that matter, I can’t think of one friend that uses them and who’s wouldn’t be covered in a giant layer of dust.

    Considering that roughly 50% of drivers are women and pretty much every vehicle has a vanity mirror (or equally useable rear view mirror), then if femme fatales using mirrors were such an issue, there’d be issues all the time. In fact, 50% of drivers wouldn’t be women because we’d be weeding ourselves out.

    Can’t fix stupid so there’s always some outliers.

    Yet for some reason... vehicle insurance is higher for men...

    Stupid clause isn’t really applied automatically to female drivers. We have to earn it 😜 Reply With Quote
    Jan 14, 2021 | 12:11 23
    Quote Originally Posted by foragefarmer View Post

    Anybody thinking they have the ability to do so and still drive effectively is only fooling themselves.
    Most of us farmers and truck drivers seem to believe we possess some superhuman multitasking driving abilities.
    I expect we are completely delusional in that belief.
    Have there been any studies to indicate otherwise?

    Does bouncing along in a tractor with 50+ feet of implement (or 2 or 3) running 6" from a fence or treeline (or cow), while watching and adjusting multiple monitors and levers, on the phone with a bowl of cereal in the other hand, dusty windows, the sun in your eyes, No sleep for three nights, 3 extra kids crammed in, and stress levels through the roof from reading agriville with the remaining hand, really make us better over the road drivers capable of multitasking?
    Or just really dangerously overconfident hazards on the road?

    I think I know the answer. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 12:57 24 I know after finishing harvest each fall, I am a much poorer driver the first few times I go into town or city. Lots of rolling stops at stop signs just as I am used to doing all fall at rural intersections with loaded grain trucks. In much more of a hurry to get somewhere, just as I was for 2 months or so to get back to the combines/bins. Lot less patience of others on the road. It takes real effort to break bad driving habits I have gotten into each fall when other traffic other than equipment in the fields is rare. The distractions, like using a cell phone, while bouncing across a field at 20 mph with no other traffic is not equivalent to texting on a highway and so that means shutting off the phone completely right after harvest while driving so I am not tempted or in the habit of responding. Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 13:19 25
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    Tom, I haven't responded to them in 5 years now.
    If the fine only $450, cheap.
    Best money spent on useless land line number.
    Seems more to that story though.
    Better yet, pay an annual fee for our inventory to be instantly updated in cloud, with all financials?
    Good luck.
    we haven't been on speaking terms for about 7 years , ever since i told them we grow all lentils , he said "what colour", i said "what colours are there?", he said "brown or red" , i said "yea they were brown for sure"
    no problem so far , always used to ask them their yearly wage , told it was none of my business ? Reply With Quote
    biglentil's Avatar Jan 14, 2021 | 13:22 26 Driving is dangerous should be illegal, it's all about keeping you safe. Reply With Quote
    Jan 14, 2021 | 13:27 27
    Quote Originally Posted by foragefarmer View Post
    In cases like that their not even going the speed limit either, meaning tailgating starts happening.

    Lep, the horn is a great idea, as when I pass driver's texting while driving that's what they get from me, the horn

    That's the reason why texting or talking on the cell phone is illegal here in Manitoba, they cause accidents.

    Anybody thinking they have the ability to do so and still drive effectively is only fooling themselves.
    me too , especially in the semi, sure brings them back to the task at hand in a *** hurry
    i have invited cop to come for a ride to tisdale in semi , told him he would get half of drivers i meet ,would need a dozen cars behind to process them all tho , no takers yet really pisses me off when they don't even look up
    i know i sure don't have enough concentration to do it , have driven by obvious corners that i should have never missed just while talking on hands free Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 13:39 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaithin View Post
    I’ve never heard of a fatal crash from the use of a vanity mirror.

    For that matter, I can’t think of one friend that uses them and who’s wouldn’t be covered in a giant layer of dust.

    Considering that roughly 50% of drivers are women and pretty much every vehicle has a vanity mirror (or equally useable rear view mirror), then if femme fatales using mirrors were such an issue, there’d be issues all the time. In fact, 50% of drivers wouldn’t be women because we’d be weeding ourselves out.

    Can’t fix stupid so there’s always some outliers.

    Yet for some reason... vehicle insurance is higher for men...

    Stupid clause isn’t really applied automatically to female drivers. We have to earn it 😜
    but, but , why is the rear view mirror always aimed at drivers head and not rear window ? Reply With Quote
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  • Jan 14, 2021 | 15:13 29 Once a pieceof farm machinery here has three pivot pointsyour meant to have a semi trailer licence ne ver heard of anyone being prosecuted.

    Tractor aircart seeder 3 points.

    Tractor cultivator 2 points.

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    Jan 14, 2021 | 17:42 30
    Quote Originally Posted by malleefarmer View Post
    Once a pieceof farm machinery here has three pivot pointsyour meant to have a semi trailer licence ne ver heard of anyone being prosecuted.

    Tractor aircart seeder 3 points.

    Tractor cultivator 2 points.

    .
    That wouldn't go over well with the local cattle farmers. Everyone has or used to have at least 2 if not 3 hay wagons hooked together. Each with sloppy automotive steering. Rear wagon could weave 4 feet back and forth across the road. That's 4 pivots, 6 on three wagons, and I started hauling bales at about age 12, wasn't allowed to use road gear though.

    Our rear wagon had about 2 feet of slack in the hitch, front wagon was tight. Made it easier to back up than if the front had the slack. After learning how to back up two wagons and no power steering at a young age, everything else since then seems easy.
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