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Nov 28, 2020 | 08:26 1 Charles Adler and Warren Kinsella discuss Canada's inept vaccine preparedness, and Trudeau's coming vaccine roll out scandal.

https://tunein.com/podcasts/News--Po...night-p939477/

Conversation starts at 12:30 runs to 29:15

Every Canadian should hear that 2.5 billion people will receive the vaccine before the first Canadian.
Americans will start receiving vaccine next week, as well Mexicans, Indonesians and the British.

A hard ass Liberal Kinsella, stating Chretien created the "pandemic response plan" ,,, he adds that the Harper government built and added to the plan, improving it. Then the Trudeau government came destroyed the whole plan. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 08:44 2 Canada already has vaccine production capacity for other diseases but not for the newer Covid biotech vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer. I doubt that any country would have been able to add this capacity in just 10 months. Since almost no vaccines have been approved how do you know which one to make?

    "Manufacturing was always going to be an issue globally, says Andrew Casey, the head of BIOTECanada, a national association that represents Canada’s biotechnology sector.

    The vaccines Canada is looking at alone represent four different platforms, or ways of making vaccines. They represent huge differences in technology and just because you can manufacture one, doesn’t mean you can make the others, he said.

    “It’s like saying to Ford’s motor plant, ‘Why don’t you make Apple iPhones?’”

    He noted two front-running vaccine candidates — from Moderna and Pfizer — use a brand new technology based on mRNA that a normal facility likely couldn’t manufacture anyway. Casey pointed to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which set out to build multiple vaccine-manufacturing facilities, not knowing which type of vaccine candidate would end up being successful. Those facilities still won’t be online for another year, he said.

    Trudeau said the sites that Rempel Garner referenced can’t make mRNA vaccines and have a relatively small output. They may, however, be able to make other vaccines down the road, he said."
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 28, 2020 at 08:50.
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    SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 28, 2020 | 09:00 3 Oh, chuck just face it your cheerleader for a total ****ing moron. Reply With Quote

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    Nov 28, 2020 | 09:27 4 I believe Trudeau also stated that we had the vaccine producing capacity and lost it under previous governments which was a lie. None of the plants lost almost 30 years ago had the capability to produce these super chilled vaccines.

    So why state it?? Unless to deflect. Seems to be the stock answer ... but, Harper. Now it's ... but Mulroney.

    Sounds like talking to a 6 year old. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 09:31 5 I wonder if the Liberals destroyed it or if it just fel apart due to lack of attention.
    These morons can't make money selling dope, thier pet project.
    All they can orginize is propaganda and controling the message.
    And pissing a steady stream of cash to there supporters. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 09:35 6
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    “It’s like saying to Ford’s motor plant, ‘Why don’t you make Apple iPhones?’”
    Or like saying Ford motor plant, why don’t you make ventilators or PPE, oh wait...... Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 09:40 7 My only question is will Trudeau be vaccinated first or last, for there is the ideal on which he should be judged. Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 10:31 8
    Quote Originally Posted by mcfarms View Post
    My only question is will Trudeau be vaccinated first or last, for there is the ideal on which he should be judged.
    i bet all the politicians are already done Reply With Quote

  • Nov 28, 2020 | 10:53 9
    Quote Originally Posted by Herc View Post
    Or like saying Ford motor plant, why don’t you make ventilators or PPE, oh wait......
    Chuck gone bye bye? Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 11:08 10 I guess you feel Canada should have been more like Russia with a vaccine program. Russian was the first in the world to offer a vaccine, back on Sept 20 after testing it on just 74 people. Russia was the first in the world to complete phase 3 trials, before pfizer or modera completed theirs and the first to approve the vaccine for public use. Most interesting though is the Russia vaccine is being manufactured in India, Brazil, South Korea, and China. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...putnik-vaccine

    How can it be that Russia is not manufacturing its own vaccine if that is such a requirement to early and fast vaccinations? Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 11:26 11 interesting that putin would care enough about his people to make sure they were first , unlike numbnuts that paid but didn't ask for any time guarantee??????? you can't make this shit up Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 11:37 12 I think the lateness of the orders is perhaps the only thing that can be blamed on the Liberal government.

    There was no way any government could have built vaccine production capacity in such a short time before any particular vaccine was approved. The investments would have to had started many years ago and at that time, this issue wasn't on the radar. If it was, why didn't Harper start building?

    With billions of people requiring a new vaccine what is the chances that everyone is going to get it within a few weeks? Zero. Its going to take many months. How long do you think it will take the US to get it done? January? Doubt it. More likely 2022 and beyond.

    In the mean time blame your favourite politician and then stomp your feet and tell us covid is a hoax or an overblown crisis! So if it is an overblown crisis like so many posters have said, why are you worried about when Canadians will get the vaccine? LOL Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Nov 28, 2020 | 11:38 13 Putin likely has more pull and a lot less worry about that damn word safety. Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 11:52 14 Trudeau does not want the vaccine here right now, its not election time yet. He needs to milk this to his majority. So its will be limited rollout, probably Toronto and Montreal first, more idiotic updates from him in front of his cottage get the media to change the narrative and take down the death ticker until he can start campaigning again in April. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 12:02 15 Jazz I thought you said that Covid would be gone after Trump was reelected! Your fired Jazz! Your "fortune telling" days are over. hahahah Reply With Quote
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    Nov 28, 2020 | 12:03 16
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    I guess you feel Canada should have been more like Russia with a vaccine program. Russian was the first in the world to offer a vaccine, back on Sept 20 after testing it on just 74 people. Russia was the first in the world to complete phase 3 trials, before pfizer or modera completed theirs and the first to approve the vaccine for public use. Most interesting though is the Russia vaccine is being manufactured in India, Brazil, South Korea, and China. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...putnik-vaccine

    How can it be that Russia is not manufacturing its own vaccine if that is such a requirement to early and fast vaccinations?
    Just more proof of the Trudeau incompetence. Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 12:09 17 Good explainer in the NP today;

    What lives are being lost to COVID?

    The older, those with underlying diseases, those with weak immune systems. Of the more than 9,500 people in Canada who succumbed to COVID in the first wave, between March and July, 90 per cent had at least one other cause, condition or complication reported on the death certificate, according to Statistics Canada.


    Dementia or Alzheimer’s, the most common conditions associated with COVID-involved deaths, were listed on the death certificate of 42 per cent of women, and 33 per cent of men. More than half of seniors aged 80 and older living in long term care have dementia.

    Cancer, nervous system disorders like Parkinson’s or ALS, respiratory disease, diabetes, kidney failure, heart disease, high blood pressure and pneumonia — all increase the risk of a lethal case of COVID. All are more common among people aged 65 and older, who accounted for 94 per cent of all COVID-involved deaths in the first wave. But they also affect millions of Canadians. Some three million are living with diabetes, more than seven million with hypertension.
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    Nov 28, 2020 | 12:47 18 and everyone laughed at trumps warp speed
    shows the difference between a kid trying to run a country or real men
    trump is an idiot , but he was smart enough to keep his eye on the ball
    hard to do that if you're stoned , i guess
    putin is bad too Reply With Quote

  • Nov 28, 2020 | 13:22 19 Operation Warp Speed will save 100’s of thousands or possibly millions of elderly lives worldwide. (70+, with some of the following issues high blood pressure, dementia, cancer, diabetes, etc sounds like the demographic to vaccinate first.) Trudeau’s incompetence will keep Canadian backhoe operators busy in graveyards this winter. His media fangirls will be calling for total lockdowns for the next year while Trudeau and his crayons stay in his cottage. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 28, 2020 | 13:26 20
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    i bet all the politicians are already done
    I actually want Justine trudope to be first in line along with his useless bunch of fools.Then we can see if there are any side effects from the vaccine. Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar Nov 28, 2020 | 13:46 21 I am betting he already had a shot of some kind, ya I know you all are thinking drugs...but as far as seeing him take something, it could be total bullsh*t. He is TOO CHICKEN to be first at anything. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 14:03 22
    Quote Originally Posted by AC man View Post
    I actually want Justine trudope to be first in line along with his useless bunch of fools.Then we can see if there are any side effects from the vaccine.
    Oh really , how would you know ?
    What difference would you see ?
    Speaking moistly about a water box thingy dingy? Stuff like that ? Reply With Quote

  • fjlip's Avatar Nov 28, 2020 | 14:08 23 Unusual DRESSING on his WORD salads? Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 15:05 24 The vaccines may not be the panacea we are hoping for. The two first vaccines have issues with storage and longevity. There is also acceptance levels. I don't think there will be any relief in any country for a year, so keep your mask handy. Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 16:26 25
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    The vaccines may not be the panacea we are hoping for. The two first vaccines have issues with storage and longevity. There is also acceptance levels. I don't think there will be any relief in any country for a year, so keep your mask handy.
    The question being asked tho, is why did the idiot give away all our money for companies to make it for the US and other countries with no commitment from them to us ?
    This will bite those crooked bastards big time
    Even the dumbest prick can see thru this **** up
    And it’s the me, me, me bunch that voted this child dreamer in . They should of clued in when told the budget will balance itself ? They want the vaccine NOW , right ****en now , don’t give a shit about storage issues or anything else Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 16:27 26
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    The vaccines may not be the panacea we are hoping for. The two first vaccines have issues with storage and longevity. There is also acceptance levels. I don't think there will be any relief in any country for a year, so keep your mask handy.
    Well not in THIS COUNTRY, that’s for sure Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 19:58 27
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    Well not in THIS COUNTRY, that’s for sure
    They will vaccinate the most vulnerable and essential workers first. It is the rest that will spread it. The Trumpers may not even take it because it's a plot by the dems. Reply With Quote
    Nov 28, 2020 | 20:02 28
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    They will vaccinate the most vulnerable and essential workers first. It is the rest that will spread it. The Trumpers may not even take it because it's a plot by the dems.
    warp speed is a plot by dems ? say what ? got SFA to do with those idiots ?
    biden laughed at trump when he said a vaccine was right around the corner at the debate ? everyone did ? Reply With Quote

  • Nov 28, 2020 | 20:21 29
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    They will vaccinate the most vulnerable and essential workers first. It is the rest that will spread it. The Trumpers may not even take it because it's a plot by the dems.
    Actually it was the presumptive Vice President who said she won't take it(I believe at the VP debate)

    agstar, what does that say about Democrat leadership, when the VP candidate says publicly, "she won't take the vaccine" ! Get your facts straight.
    Last edited by beaverdam; Nov 28, 2020 at 20:28.
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  • Nov 28, 2020 | 20:24 30
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    warp speed is a plot by dems ? say what ? got SFA to do with those idiots ?
    biden laughed at trump when he said a vaccine was right around the corner at the debate ? everyone did ?
    They are stupid enough not to wear masks and support Trump why would they take a vaccine from deep state? Reply With Quote