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Nov 26, 2020 | 15:32 1 “Cases” not dropping since mask mandate. I thought masks were da bomb? Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 26, 2020 | 15:40 2
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    “Cases” not dropping since mask mandate. I thought masks were da bomb?
    I thought COVID symptoms could take 7-10 days to manifest? 7 days today since mandate. Reply With Quote
    Nov 26, 2020 | 15:41 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Tone View Post
    I thought COVID symptoms could take 7-10 days to manifest? 7 days today since mandate.
    Three weeks since city mandates though. Ontarians have been masked up since July. It’s eradicated there for sure. Lol Reply With Quote
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  • Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 15:47 4 Montreal since June. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 26, 2020 | 15:49 5 Comical isn’t it. But Agstar is a true believer!

    And by comical I mean ridiculous. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 26, 2020 | 15:50 6 This farce is so much worse than climate change. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 26, 2020 | 16:01 7 Actual observed results re masks

    "A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released Friday found that counties in Kansas that adopted a mask mandate saw a decrease in COVID-19 transmission compared to counties that did not, which saw an increase in the disease caused by the novel coronavirus."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-...e-work-2020-11 Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:10 8 Ontario News ..a older lady said it correct.
    All this lock down is only going to Postpone getting covid.
    It will never get to zero.. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 26, 2020 | 16:14 9
    Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
    Ontario News ..a older lady said it correct.
    All this lock down is only going to Postpone getting covid.
    It will never get to zero..
    Yes that’s the goal. What idiots would think everyone getting this at rhe same time would good?

    Masks were not being worn by everyone only recently mandated in stores for example then you had rhe beyond dumb allowance of sports teams throughout the province rhe effects of that will be in 1 to 3 weeks from now.

    Why is this so hard to figure out?
    When you put a canola seed in the ground you don’t have the bin full the next day. Lmao Reply With Quote
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  • Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:21 10
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    Yes that’s the goal. What idiots would think everyone getting this at rhe same time would good?

    Masks were not being worn by everyone only recently mandated in stores for example then you had rhe beyond dumb allowance of sports teams throughout the province rhe effects of that will be in 1 to 3 weeks from now.

    Why is this so hard to figure out?
    When you put a canola seed in the ground you don’t have the bin full the next day. Lmao
    Other provinces way ahead on mandate.
    Numbers only went up?
    Bacterial lung infections.
    So when this shit is over.
    How long before its safe to remove masks?
    Never for some.. Reply With Quote

  • Blaithin's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:28 11 Wait... bacterial lung infections?

    Are you trying to say masks lead to bacterial pneumonia? Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:31 12
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaithin View Post
    Wait... bacterial lung infections?

    Are you trying to say masks lead to bacterial pneumonia?
    Think about it..
    More masks every where.
    Numbers going up..
    News should say who is in the hospital.
    Non wearers.
    Or mask wearers.
    Smokers?
    We are all kept in the dark..
    No wonder some people have had enough..more will protest as this goes on.
    Last edited by Partners; Nov 26, 2020 at 16:34.
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  • Blaithin's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:37 13
    Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
    Think about it..
    Oh yes... that’s why countries like China and Japan that have large populations that have frequent mask use pre Covid... suffer from increased bacterial pneumonia rates.

    That’s why surgeons who spend large parts of their daily lives with masks on.... suffer from increased bacterial pneumonia rates.

    That’s why people who handle hazardous substances, fight fires, scientists in labs, or any other occupation that requires regular mask use.... have increased cases of bacterial pneumonia.

    Because breathing recycled air increases bacterial pneumonia?

    In that case we better add in anybody who works on airplanes. Oh, and any person in Canada who wears scarves or balaclavas when outside.

    I think you need to think about it. Masks do not increase a risk of bacterial pneumonia.

    If you want to have a soap box to stand on against lung damage then let’s see you protest smoking and vaping. And what does the high prevalence of mesothelioma in farmers mean; we should wear masks more or less?

    Masks are inconvenient and a pain in the ass but to insinuate they cause more health troubles than they prevent and are therefore not worth wearing is inaccurate.
    Last edited by Blaithin; Nov 26, 2020 at 16:41.
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  • Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:47 14 So you explain the mega increase?
    Being your so smart.. Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:49 15 3 ply mask.
    Can't even breathe through the dam thing.
    No wonder Tam said to use 3 ply..
    Cheap 1 dollar ones you can. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 26, 2020 | 16:51 16 I wore a mask for the first time last week due to the stupid mandate. I felt like I was going to die after the first ten minutes. I got a headache, and after removing it once done in the city, it took me until the next day to feel like I hade enough oxygen.

    I may have to visit a doctor and see if I can get an exemption. Surely I am not the only person who feels nearly dead after wearing one for a bit? I’m 44 years old, healthy as a horse, but the restriction made me physically sick. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 26, 2020 | 16:55 17 Sheep

    Just wondering why you're asking the question of "Masks working", we all know your thoughts regarding the entire Covid situation. Even if medical experts present the facts that mask work, you wouldn't believe them anyways. Something to do with science in your case is always suspect.

    You posted a fee weeks ago if I'm not mistaking "You'll never wear one' (Mask) . Then you sheepishly back that statement off when the shit storm hit, and stated you would wear one in public or if someone was nervous if you didn't have one on..

    Of coarse to you won't get Covid in your bubble word of everything Anti. So be thank for that and let the real Medical experts deal with Covid!! Reply With Quote
    Blaithin's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:56 18
    Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
    So you explain the mega increase?
    Being your so smart..
    Is there a mega increase in bacterial pneumonia numbers?

    I don’t watch news or read news or anything, so if there is I wont hear of it.

    That said, I’d want to see the claims.

    We’re in the middle of a respiratory pandemic. It makes sense there would be increased lung issues.

    So were the people with bacterial pneumonia Covid patients at some point in time?

    Did they even wear masks?

    These are two more recent factors that could contribute to increased lung problems on top of more regular factors like smoking.

    Or are you just making a correlated assumption that there’s an increase in bacterial pneumonia at a point in time some people are wearing more masks so obviously one is the result of the other?

    It would be interesting to see the logic behind it. Why would a mask give a person bacterial pneumonia? Does it trap the bacteria in, causing people to breathe in higher amounts? That can’t be true, I’ve heard from many people that masks can’t even keep large particles out let alone smaller things like bacteria and viruses. If they can’t keep them out, then how can they be blamed for keeping them in?

    Correlation does not equal causation. Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 16:58 19 Wear it under your nose like lots do.
    Or a 1 ply .does zero but you will look like you are.. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 26, 2020 | 16:59 20
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    I wore a mask for the first time last week due to the stupid mandate. I felt like I was going to die after the first ten minutes. I got a headache, and after removing it once done in the city, it took me until the next day to feel like I hade enough oxygen.

    I may have to visit a doctor and see if I can get an exemption. Surely I am not the only person who feels nearly dead after wearing one for a bit? I’m 44 years old, healthy as a horse, but the restriction made me physically sick.
    Well well well another lie then about our discussion a few weeks ago you said you wore mask regarding your product. Your customers ought to read what your thoughts are.
    Not very business savvy at all never mind wreckkess. There are public rules that people. Handling food are to follow so the rest of us can feel confident in our system. You feel it that important to mock this virus? Wow Reply With Quote
    Nov 26, 2020 | 17:01 21
    Quote Originally Posted by foragefarmer View Post
    Sheep

    Just wondering why you're asking the question of "Masks working", we all know your thoughts regarding the entire Covid situation. Even if medical experts present the facts that mask work, you wouldn't believe them anyways. Something to do with science in your case is always suspect.

    You posted a fee weeks ago if I'm not mistaking "You'll never wear one' (Mask) . Then you sheepishly back that statement off when the shit storm hit, and stated you would wear one in public or if someone was nervous if you didn't have one on..

    Of coarse to you won't get Covid in your bubble word of everything Anti. So be thank for that and let the real Medical experts deal with Covid!!
    Actually, you don’t know my take on the whole situation, there is no way anyone can. It is far more complex an issue than outsiders may think.. Do you ignore medical experts with contrary views? I did indeed state I would never wear one. I meant it. When pushed, I recognized after talking to someone, that it made them feel better for some unknown reason, if I put a mask on. I would be utterly shocked if I got COVID. I hardly leave my farm, I am not a social butterfly, i never was one to be in someone’s personal space. Before this all hit, I already would back away if someone broached my space.

    I am thankful, very very thankful that I am blessed to be able to have this freedom. I am sad that others have to be with people and simply can’t get away. I can’t even imagine... lol

    Now that I have to wear one if I do go out, I do. Not to be a lemming, but solely to avoid getting a stupid fine. Reply With Quote
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  • Blaithin's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 17:02 22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    I wore a mask for the first time last week due to the stupid mandate. I felt like I was going to die after the first ten minutes. I got a headache, and after removing it once done in the city, it took me until the next day to feel like I hade enough oxygen.

    I may have to visit a doctor and see if I can get an exemption. Surely I am not the only person who feels nearly dead after wearing one for a bit? I’m 44 years old, healthy as a horse, but the restriction made me physically sick.
    You've never wore a mask in your life?

    I’m 32. I’ve had to wear dust masks, 3M masks, even half face masks with cartridge filters on them that pass those stupid stinky smoke sealing tests. I also regularly wear scarves over my face in winter.

    Notably mask use (not the scarves) is almost exclusively when I’m doing manual labour, not just shopping. Yet they do not cause any issues beyond basic discomfort. Any farmer who’s ever shovelled out a bin should be able to tell you the original adjustment of wearing a mask is well worth breathing in the dust and hacking up lungs and dirt for days after. Yes they’re hot. Yes they’re uncomfortable. Yes they are pain. But for many other faucets of life they’re a necessary evil, shopping for half an hour with a cloth on your face is hardly the worst case mask wearing scenario.

    There’s a couple phrases that spring to mind when I hear people complain about not being able to breathe with masks on. One is “Mind over matter” and the other is “Suck it up, Princess.” Obviously we live in a coddled time that something that makes air warm and humid is so uncomfortable to the point we feel we are oxygen deprived. The concept that it takes days to recover lends itself to the idea people are suffering from a form of CO2 poisoning. But again... if masks can’t keep the virus out, how can they keep CO2 in so much people poison themselves?
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    Nov 26, 2020 | 17:03 23
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    Well well well another lie then about our discussion a few weeks ago you said you wore mask regarding your product. Your customers ought to read what your thoughts are.
    Not very business savvy at all never mind wreckkess. There are public rules that people. Handling food are to follow so the rest of us can feel confident in our system. You feel it that important to mock this virus? Wow
    I don’t handle food. I handle lambs. I do wear masks if people were wanting me to. EVERY BUYER of my product never wore a mask until it was mandated. OST times I do not see the buyers, most times our shipments are done by courier.
    Last edited by Sheepwheat; Nov 26, 2020 at 17:06.
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    Nov 26, 2020 | 17:05 24
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaithin View Post
    You've never wore a mask in your life?

    I’m 32. I’ve had to wear dust masks, 3M masks, even half face masks with cartridge filters on them that pass those stupid stinky smoke sealing tests. I also regularly wear scarves over my face in winter.

    Notably mask use (not the scarves) is almost exclusively when I’m doing manual labour, not just shopping. Yet they do not cause any issues beyond basic discomfort. Any farmer who’s ever shovelled out a bin should be able to tell you the original adjustment of wearing a mask is well worth breathing in the dust and hacking up lungs and dirt for days after. Yes they’re hot. Yes they’re uncomfortable. Yes they are pain. But for many other faucets of life they’re a necessary evil, shopping for half an hour with a cloth on your face is hardly the worst case mask wearing scenario.
    When shovelling grain, I wear a full face shield type mask/breathing apparatus that has zero breathing restrictions, so no, I don’t typically wear theses silly face masks. I guess I could wear that in public, except folks may call the cops on me, because it literally would look like I am about to detonate a small nuclear bomb, or about to dismantle a small nuclear bomb. It wouldn’t fly IMO.

    But honestly, quite a few ppl I have talked to suffer while wearing a mask. Most dont, but to belittle those of us who honestly struggle to breathe, is not fair IMO.
    Last edited by Sheepwheat; Nov 26, 2020 at 17:08.
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  • Nov 26, 2020 | 17:09 25
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    Well well well another lie then about our discussion a few weeks ago you said you wore mask regarding your product. Your customers ought to read what your thoughts are.
    Not very business savvy at all never mind wreckkess. There are public rules that people. Handling food are to follow so the rest of us can feel confident in our system. You feel it that important to mock this virus? Wow
    You don’t even know what it is that I do, obviously, so why the attack? Reply With Quote
    Nov 26, 2020 | 17:14 26 Regardless, the point still stands. Why are cases not dropping three weeks after the mandate being put in place? Reply With Quote

  • Blaithin's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 17:16 27 If people have legit medical reasons and doctors notes supporting issues like COPD that could be affecting breathing with masks on, then belittling would be uncalled for.

    For the people claiming they feel they’re going to die yet have nothing medical to back it up... belittling seems a suitable step to such over reaction.

    Go see your doctor and see which you fall in?

    I have to wear the things for over 13 hours at work now. It’s not fun. It’s hot. It takes a bit to just get over the warm air and taking it off feels like going outside and breathing in fresh, rain filled air. My nose doesn’t hurt but has a feeling similar to when I take my hair out of a ponytail or my bra off after a long day. Uncomfortable sums it up the best. I was hoping increased humidity would help keep my lips from chapping but alas, opposite effect. I’m excitedly awaiting the zits I’m sure will make an appearance one day.

    Overall it’s reminiscent of when I stepped off the airplane in Queensland and went to take a huge gulp of what looked like it should be fresh, cool, summer rain air. Instead I almost choked on how thick it was with humidity. Somehow I didn’t die or experience oxygen deprivation issues. People can breathe in air that’s even 100% humidity and be fine. It just takes adjustment.

    Absolutely I would prefer to not wear one but all of the above doesn’t mean it’s making me sick or I have lung issues or I shouldn’t have to wear it. Reply With Quote
    Nov 26, 2020 | 17:21 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaithin View Post
    If people have legit medical reasons and doctors notes supporting issues like COPD that could be affecting breathing with masks on, then belittling would be uncalled for.

    For the people claiming they feel they’re going to die yet have nothing medical to back it up... belittling seems a suitable step to such over reaction.

    Go see your doctor and see which you fall in?

    I have to wear the things for over 13 hours at work now. It’s not fun. It’s hot. It takes a bit to just get over the warm air and taking it off feels like going outside and breathing in fresh, rain filled air. My nose doesn’t hurt but has a feeling similar to when I take my hair out of a ponytail or my bra off after a long day. Uncomfortable sums it up the best. I was hoping increased humidity would help keep my lips from chapping but alas, opposite effect. I’m excitedly awaiting the zits I’m sure will make an appearance one day.

    Overall it’s reminiscent of when I stepped off the airplane in Queensland and went to take a huge gulp of what looked like it should be fresh, cool, summer rain air. Instead I almost choked on how thick it was with humidity. Somehow I didn’t die or experience oxygen deprivation issues. People can breathe in air that’s even 100% humidity and be fine. It just takes adjustment.

    Absolutely I would prefer to not wear one but all of the above doesn’t mean it’s making me sick or I have lung issues or I shouldn’t have to wear it.
    If I had to wear one for 13 hours straight, it would honestly make me useless. Maybe I should see my doc regarding this issue. I wore it for almost an hour straight, and the headache and the terrible feeling of weakness was really bad. Reply With Quote
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  • Blaithin's Avatar Nov 26, 2020 | 17:24 29 I’m more likely to starve to death I think. How can someone snack?!??

    Not to mention my caffeine consumption is in dire threat.

    Maybe that’s why breathing doesn’t seem to be such an issue. My stomach is drowning out everything else. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 26, 2020 | 17:28 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaithin View Post
    I’m more likely to starve to death I think. How can someone snack?!??

    Not to mention my caffeine consumption is in dire threat.

    Maybe that’s why breathing doesn’t seem to be such an issue. My stomach is drowning out everything else.
    All I know is that if it affected everyone like it affected me, no one would wear masks. Reply With Quote