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Nov 21, 2020 | 09:52 1

Will that eventually include pulse crops as well ?

Be interesting to see what percentage of western Canadian FARMERS agree to this ..... Reply With Quote
Nov 21, 2020 | 09:55 2 reinstate single desk marketing ??????
FMG , and whose calling who flat earthers????
the MAJORITY of farmers didn't want it , who in f-ck do they think they are Reply With Quote

  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 09:57 3 Not a chance in Hell would I ever in a million years go back to the CWB Days. **** that it was a total shit show. 2 Bus contract for delivery get paid pennies then a week before Christmas the Feds announce millions to farmers. That the City people though was fed money.

    Not a ****ing chance. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 21, 2020 | 09:57 4 Isn't it so good that farm groups can be at the opposite ends of the spectrum....just to keep the politicians dividing and conquering and doing nothing to help the majority of farmers...

    They have to get the farm groups together and get one voice and tackle important issues first. Reply With Quote

  • blackpowder's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 10:22 5 0%..... Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 10:36 6 I wouldnt be surprised if Bibo and Trudeau are having discussions on this already, their hate for us is great. Plus it would further centralize control to Ottawa. Probably would send the yearly 'final' payments directly to the UN, less carbon fees. Reply With Quote

  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 10:39 7 If anyone on here believes for one moment that BOBOO and Trudeau Give one **** for western Canada you are dreaming. Our farm groups played this all wrong by thinking a useless fool in Ottawa it was Be nice they will fall in line. Yea nice guys finish last. She is an utter useless head of Ag Canada. She voted to shut oil down. That how off the wall she is. Call a spade a spade. Stupid is stupid. Enough being nice. FArmers will lose out big time if we don't wake up sooner than later when it's all done. Reply With Quote

  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 10:48 8 Chuck enlighten us how the NFU would make life better for farmers.

    The sad part is the Stupid Trudeau gov is probably listening to the NFU over real farm groups.

    What's the NFU membership 6 people.

    I don't know just asking for a friend. Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 10:50 9 I for 1 liked the old CWB when you could shovel 50 bu bly ,drop at elevator and get grocery money. I realize that as a hunreds acre farmer is a long way from the thousands acre farmer. Hard to get any interest from buyers when all you have is 5 mabey 10 B trains to move.
    You all were going to load and dump in the USA and get big money , how did that go.
    The question should be a asked on an acre farmed basis,i am pretty sure the little guy has a different opinion to the mega farms. I know we are hooped mostly because the elevator system in gone,cant haul 100 plus mi with 3 tons. Cant afford Super Bs on small operation PROGRESS or REGRESS ??? Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 10:51 10 CWB, Not anymore.

    Only regret was the lack of checks and balances put in place before it was dismantled.

    I honestly think the tought of just getting rid of it made those in power and their cohorts so giddy and intoxicated with excitement they forgot to pay attention to the details. Reply With Quote

  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 10:57 11 The BS from the Mega to Small is BS. It doesn't matter if you have one super B or 20 come on that is BS.

    The biggest problem Canada was no checks and balance after the CWB was done.

    We need the info now so you can backtrack it to Rural sask for a price. Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 11:01 12
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    CWB, Not anymore.

    Only regret was the lack of checks and balances put in place before it was dismantled.

    I honestly think the tought of just getting rid of it made those in power and their cohorts so giddy and intoxicated with excitement they forgot to pay attention to the details.
    I agree and think it should have been fixed not dismantled, but water under the bridge. Just another nail in the coffen of small farmers just making a living doing what they love. Shes all mega corperate farms and huts in a few yrs.IMHO Reply With Quote
    SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 11:09 13 If that is true why are the 5000-acre farms the most profitable? Why are mom and dad and son farms still thriving? Come on yes we have mega farms I have seen lots come and go and come and go. Investors get tired and pull the plug sooner or later.

    In our area, the farms doing great are smaller to med size farms. Must be the water in your area. Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 11:12 14 7.50 wheat today . under CWB would be 6.00 . Reply With Quote

  • Nov 21, 2020 | 11:16 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Robertbarlage View Post
    7.50 wheat today . under CWB would be 6.00 .
    Where can I get that?

    With the amount of delivery options I have I consider myself lucky but that price seems pretty lofty compared to here.

    I have #1CWRS average Px about 14.2. Heavy like lead. FN very high. etc etc etc..... Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 11:19 16
    Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER View Post
    The BS from the Mega to Small is BS. It doesn't matter if you have one super B or 20 come on that is BS.

    The biggest problem Canada was no checks and balance after the CWB was done.

    We need the info now so you can backtrack it to Rural sask for a price.
    No Mega to BTO is not BS. I have sat at merchant's trying to talk and they looked right past me at BTO and Hutts that just walked in ignoring me and waving at them even getting up to go talk. Other way around they don't even glance.

    Also have watched many quality assessments been up graded by # of tonnes they will get on next sale of different commodity. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 21, 2020 | 11:23 17 Regardless of NFU policy the CWB is not coming back anytime soon.

    Its just good to see that since the CWB was taken away that farmers have no marketing or transportation issues to complain about! LOL

    What's interesting though is the Conservatives and the majority of farmers still support compulsory marketing boards for poultry and dairy products.

    Considering marketing freedom was the rally cry of the anti CWB folks there seems to be no similar concern about dairy and poultry.

    If the border was open and supply management marketing boards disappeared, imports would shut down a lot of Canadian farms and the dairy industry would be thrown into chaos. Reply With Quote
    SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 11:39 18 I laugh at the comment they left you in the office and ran to the hutts.

    Yes we do a average of all the crop some years it’s a one across the board some years a two and some feed or three.

    This is total BS large vs small it’s a NFU dream of life in the Socialist world.

    How come med make more money?

    Big is just turning money and making investors happy. Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 21, 2020 | 11:40 19
    Quote Originally Posted by wmoebis View Post
    No Mega to BTO is not BS. I have sat at merchant's trying to talk and they looked right past me at BTO and Hutts that just walked in ignoring me and waving at them even getting up to go talk. Other way around they don't even glance.

    Also have watched many quality assessments been up graded by # of tonnes they will get on next sale of different commodity.
    That's kinda sad. Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 11:59 20
    Quote Originally Posted by Robertbarlage View Post
    7.50 wheat today . under CWB would be 6.00 .
    Think it was 60% of estimated final...$4.50

    But the volume thing is alive and well, everyone gets a different price on inputs. Or rebates, volume is KING.

    MNP says 2500 acres most profitable. Any bigger and machinery multiples hurt till 10,000 acres.
    Last edited by fjlip; Nov 21, 2020 at 12:02.
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  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 12:01 21 I cried when I read that.

    Come on Yes they will look for the volume and yes the black coats walk in and some go gaga but most don't care.

    We have three tons unloading in front of Super Bs. It's farming in 2020.

    Quit picking small vs large vs mega.

    We all farm. Reply With Quote

  • fjlip's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 12:06 22
    Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER View Post
    I cried when I read that.

    Come on Yes they will look for the volume and yes the black coats walk in and some go gaga but most don't care.

    We have three tons unloading in front of Super Bs. It's farming in 2020.

    Quit picking small vs large vs mega.

    We all farm.
    At Wadena, maybe 5 out of 100 are tandems. 50% super B, rest all kinds of trailers. I know my days are numbered, I probably cost the elevators more per bushel to deal with. They can calculate. Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 12:38 23
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Regardless of NFU policy the CWB is not coming back anytime soon.

    Its just good to see that since the CWB was taken away that farmers have no marketing or transportation issues to complain about! LOL

    What's interesting though is the Conservatives and the majority of farmers still support compulsory marketing boards for poultry and dairy products.

    Considering marketing freedom was the rally cry of the anti CWB folks there seems to be no similar concern about dairy and poultry.

    If the border was open and supply management marketing boards disappeared, imports would shut down a lot of Canadian farms and the dairy industry would be thrown into chaos.
    Dairy and poultry production and quality can be nearly 100 % controllable..... grains , oilseeds and pulses it’s impossible. So that’s a mute point for the most part, always has been .

    Simple question was , does the NFU intend to push for pulses and canola under this policy ?

    Was not looking for comparisons to poultry and dairy .... totally different worlds in Ag . Reply With Quote
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  • Nov 21, 2020 | 12:55 24
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post


    Will that eventually include pulse crops as well ?

    Be interesting to see what percentage of western Canadian FARMERS agree to this .....
    Close to 0% of real farmers.
    Unfortunately the NFU doesn’t ask farmers for their opinion. They seem to survey carbon tax activists, union leaders, climate alarmists, Ralph Goodale, former NDP members who want to defund the police, etc. Reply With Quote
    Nov 21, 2020 | 13:10 25
    Quote Originally Posted by Robertbarlage View Post
    7.50 wheat today . under CWB would be 6.00 .
    More like $1.50 if you can dump and maybe $1.00 interim payment and $1.00 final payment 18 months later. Good Job rip-off artists. Watch land prices tank.
    Last edited by sumdumguy; Nov 21, 2020 at 13:24.
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    blackpowder's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 13:19 26 I cant even believe we're still talking about this.
    A good read if you're bored is "The great grain robbery by Don Barons I think. A history of the communist mindset instilled at an early age in our industry. Extreme us and them polarization that became generational. Sounds familiar. A series of tragedies over 80+ years.
    Railroads count time in decades so we still have a ways to go there. Both in infrastructure and policy. Their hands are still partially tied by the above legacy. Some ridiculous legislation and beliefs still exist.
    Regarding criticism of freedom day.
    Yes, there was a lot things left undone or done poorly.
    It had been discussed for a long time. Industry saw it coming for a while. But the way our politics work I believe it became a hard push on the biggest issue.
    It was a real struggle to kill a sacred cow. Delay would have meant failure.
    Thankfully at least that got done when it did finally.
    How much voice does our industry have in policy now???? 0. Had we failed then we would still have the board. Hard to imagine really.
    The NFU likely a fringe group like the Communist Party of Canada. I dont even know.
    Anyone with an open mind and a history in private enterprise of Any kind could Never in Any way see Any value whatsoever in Anything the board Ever did. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 21, 2020 | 13:28 27 We talk how trudy's field trips have cost farmers millions in lost potential. But it pales many many times in comparison to the decades long reign of the CWB. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 21, 2020 | 13:28 28 One good thing they did was to send us searching for alternate crops like Glenlea Wheat, Lentils, Canaryseed, in fact anything that was not Board. Reply With Quote

  • blackpowder's Avatar Nov 21, 2020 | 13:33 29 Indeed, the fact we have the canola industry we have is a direct result of not being on the board. And a clear testimony to the lost potential. Reply With Quote

  • Nov 21, 2020 | 15:02 30 This coming from the NFU doesn't surprise me. They are living in the past and are so out of touch with the reality in the country its unbelievable. We just went through a provincial election here in Sask and it was so glaring that the left has totally divested themselves of any rural support and meaningful rural policy development. The number of votes they got showed it. Even look at the US election results on a county level basis and it is obvious that the rural voters don't buy what the left is selling. Reply With Quote