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Klause's Avatar Oct 21, 2020 | 20:32 1 NOTE: ANYBODY STARTS POLITICS OR OIL VS ELECTRICITY BULLSHIT AND I'M HAVING THE THREAD DELETED.


GMC Released the Hummer EV. 1000 hp, 11,000 FTlbs of torque.

It's convertible.

Quadrasteer is back

Crab steer.

6" ride height extension.


Smart cruise.


350 miles (560km) on a charge.

0-100km an hr in 3 seconds.

160km of charge in 10 mins.


And it's priced the same as a damn Duramax.



Add in regenerative trailer braking and drive motor units from Al-Ko and you'd have the ultimate towing rig.

https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev


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    Oct 21, 2020 | 20:41 2
    Quote Originally Posted by Klause View Post
    NOTE: ANYBODY STARTS POLITICS OR OIL VS ELECTRICITY BULLSHIT AND I'M HAVING THE THREAD DELETED.

    What about Ford vs GM debate!


    Didnt know they were building one. Sounds good. I'm a buy new but keep it till it's dead kinda guy and I just bought a new one last year so I'm out on the first run! Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 20:42 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Klause View Post
    NOTE: ANYBODY STARTS POLITICS OR OIL VS ELECTRICITY BULLSHIT AND I'M HAVING THE THREAD DELETED.


    GMC Released the Hummer EV. 1000 hp, 11,000 FTlbs of torque.

    It's convertible.

    Quadrasteer is back

    Crab steer.

    6" ride height extension.


    Smart cruise.


    350 miles (560km) on a charge.

    0-100km an hr in 3 seconds.

    160km of charge in 10 mins.


    And it's priced the same as a damn Duramax.



    Add in regenerative trailer braking and drive motor units from Al-Ko and you'd have the ultimate towing rig.

    https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev


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    Already reserved one.


    Have to wait an entire year or more to drive it, though. Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 21:56 4 Can I plug it into my 220 plug in shop ? Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 22:04 5 Time to buy shares in Firestone and Goodyear. Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 22:12 6 Sweet ride, can’t wait to test drive it, if and when ever it comes to SK. Reply With Quote
    Oct 21, 2020 | 22:36 7 Why 1000 horse power? Why? In a passenger vehicle?

    Because they can?

    Why not in a highway tractor?

    Oh.....because needing 500 horse power won't get you 560 kms?

    More battery storage?
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  • biglentil's Avatar Oct 21, 2020 | 23:04 8 Its a dangerous paradox for GM. Promote the new EV's with superior performance and other features. Many buyers may lose interest in existing models and inventory.
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    Oct 22, 2020 | 04:53 9 Going to have some very quite race tracks soon. Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 05:21 10
    Quote Originally Posted by biglentil View Post
    Its a dangerous paradox for GM. Promote the new EV's with superior performance and other features. Many buyers may lose interest in existing models and inventory.
    Until they see price tag Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 06:19 11
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    Why 1000 horse power? Why? In a passenger vehicle?

    Because they can?

    Why not in a highway tractor?

    Oh.....because needing 500 horse power won't get you 560 kms?

    More battery storage?
    What will the range be at -20??
    We all know what happens to battery capacity as the temp drops....... Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 06:24 12
    Quote Originally Posted by woodland View Post
    What will the range be at -20??
    We all know what happens to battery capacity as the temp drops.......
    Diesel heaters will keep the batteries warm. Reply With Quote

  • biglentil's Avatar Oct 22, 2020 | 06:37 13
    Quote Originally Posted by woodland View Post
    What will the range be at -20??
    We all know what happens to battery capacity as the temp drops.......
    The battery temp is maintained with electric heat. While parked in cold temps they must be plugged into 120v or range will degrade. For sask a heated garage would probably necessary. It may not be suitable for every persons requirements however there are a number of exciting new battery techs on the horizon that will change that. Anyone here use gas motors on their aeration fans? Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 06:45 14
    Quote Originally Posted by biglentil View Post
    The battery temp is maintained with electric heat. While parked in cold temps they must be plugged into 120v or range will degrade. For sask a heated garage would probably necessary. It may not be suitable for every persons requirements however there are a number of exciting new battery techs on the horizon that will change that. Anyone here use gas motors on their aeration fans?
    I plug my aeration fan in to a power supply that doesn’t need a battery so not really a comparison. But I do believe there will be better batteries if there is enough funding to develop it. And if politics stays out of it developing.

    Klaus it’s very difficult to keep politics out of this debate since it is politics that will determine things such as subsidies, infrastructure development etc that will either make or break this industry. It won’t be the technology it will be rhe politics. If it was technology we would have been electric already because it would have been supported to develop a long time ago. Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 06:55 15
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    I plug my aeration fan in to a power supply that doesn’t need a battery so not really a comparison. But I do believe there will be better batteries if there is enough funding to develop it. And if politics stays out of it developing.

    Klaus it’s very difficult to keep politics out of this debate since it is politics that will determine things such as subsidies, infrastructure development etc that will either make or break this industry. It won’t be the technology it will be rhe politics. If it was technology we would have been electric already because it would have been supported to develop a long time ago.
    I was kinda wondering the same thing but didn't want the thread to disappear.

    But since you raised the question, when was science, physics or simple, hard reality last practically considered in any contemporary topic such as this... Reply With Quote
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    Oct 22, 2020 | 06:57 16 What a waste imo. Why not build in a regular 2500 chassis? Also why 1000hp. Sales will be right up There with all the muscle cars. They may even get to 4 or 5,000.

    If they built a 3/4 or 1 ton that had 2/3 the hp and torque you could add another zero to the sales figures. Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 07:12 17 Am I alone in wondering what the hell the practical value of this thing is?

    rest of original post deleted. Respect to klause.
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    Oct 22, 2020 | 07:18 18 Why not improve its "energy mileage" and reduce the HP and torque and increase its range.

    Yup, a waste of energy.

    Does it matter what form it comes in or how it was produced? Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 07:48 19 It does show that electric vehicles are about to make some noise .
    Will know in two years how these hold out in a Canadian climate. Let us know Zephyr 👍.
    I will wait for the 500hp version or less and a few years. Also if we can actually get a crop without drought , hail , frost or snow ... maybe next year lol .
    Electric tractors finally starting to make some headway . The JD autonomous one looks most interesting to me.
    But all this will come down to reliability and price though .
    Something needs to change because the extreme cost of current emission systems on farm machinery, continued escalating carbon tax’s is going to drain profitability too much in the near future . Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 07:49 20 The big three have been making huge profits off their over the top very expensive trucks that many people drive without a good reason. They have great marketing programs!

    They are doing the same with electric plans. All we need is range and something practical to get the job done.

    Its great to see all the support for EVs on Agriville! The times must be changing! hahah Reply With Quote
    Klause's Avatar Oct 22, 2020 | 08:02 21 All the comments about the high HP and torque...


    Electric motors, especially DC traction, are extremely powerful and can make torque at any rpm.

    They don't put out 11,000 ft lbs 100% of the time. Just when it's needed... I bet it takes 30-40hp to keep it rolling down the highway.

    Ever run a Milwaukee or metabo drill that'll break your wrist when it jams? That's 18v DC. Now imagine that same tech at 800vdc.

    As far as prices go, look at the website. MSRP is on there and it's in line with a high end duramax...


    This is GM's electric flagship to show what it can do. I'm sure they'll put similar systems into Sierras and Silverados soon.


    Electric vehicles aren't going anywhere and we will all drive them sooner or later.

    An electric truck doesn't waste power idling at a red light, or stuck in traffic.


    My question and major concern is our electricity grid.

    Especially here in SK lots of places have old lines old switches and old small transformers. It'll cost s lot of money to upgrade the whole system at once. Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 08:07 22 An electric truck doesn't waste power idling at a red light, or stuck in traffic.

    Alot of the newer GM vehicles shut off at red lights Reply With Quote
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  • Klause's Avatar Oct 22, 2020 | 08:17 23
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    An electric truck doesn't waste power idling at a red light, or stuck in traffic.

    Alot of the newer GM vehicles shut off at red lights


    True.

    Starting a motor still burns fuel, it's not instant on.

    If your coasting along at 5km an hr you're wasting a bunch of fuel vs electric too.

    Fuel needs to be transported. Electricity runs down wires after the initial generation.


    Oil is a finite resource and we need it for a lot of other products... If something better comes along we should embrace it.


    How many of us run cordless power tools? 10 years ago we would have all laughed at the thought of trading sir impacts in on electric.

    I don't know if many left using air tools. Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 22, 2020 | 08:20 24
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    The big three have been making huge profits off their over the top very expensive trucks that many people drive without a good reason. They have great marketing programs!

    They are doing the same with electric plans. All we need is range and something practical to get the job done.

    Its great to see all the support for EVs on Agriville! The times must be changing! hahah
    As I said , time will tell how reliable they are after two years in a Canadian climate.
    Until they are proven through a few cold winters and as Klause said the current power grid is totally not ready.
    Not doing backflips yet , but of course they are coming .
    And when they prove reliable, cost effective, price still way too high if they are the same as a fully loaded Duramax .... cause they are retarded in price as is .

    And there needs to be a plan in place for a major new power source , either Nuke or God forbid..... natural gas plants like the one in NB .
    Until all that fall into place , most of this is still fairy tale stuff .
    Ohh , and make a 3/4 ton truck like others said that’s practical and I can plug into my shops 220

    So that may be 10 years plus Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 08:21 25 In the most recent Western Producer there is a story about CNH in Saskatoon who have invested in a very large solar array to produce about 8% of the electricity needs. It's not grid tied and they will directly use all the electricity themselves.

    I would consider an EV truck if they are affordable and work well. I can use my 25kw solar system to charge it up. Any grain farm that runs a bunch of aeration fans can easily handle charging an EV. I think a 220V fast charger needs a 40 amp breaker. On our farm I have many 30 and some 60 amp breakers to run fan from 3 -7.5 hp fans.
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    Klause's Avatar Oct 22, 2020 | 08:24 26
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    In the most recent Western Producer there is a story about CNH in Saskatoon who have invested in a very large solar array to produce about 8% of the electricity needs. It's not grid tied and they will directly use all the electricity themselves.

    I would consider an EV truck if they are affordable and work well. I can use my 25kw solar system to charge it up.


    Funny.

    I drilled in the power conduit and control lines for that project when they built it this past summer.

    Contractors never jack hammered out the entry and exit areas for us. Took longer to do that than it took to put in the conduit. Reply With Quote
    Oct 22, 2020 | 13:05 27
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    The big three have been making huge profits off their over the top very expensive trucks that many people drive without a good reason. They have great marketing programs!

    They are doing the same with electric plans. All we need is range and something practical to get the job done.

    Its great to see all the support for EVs on Agriville! The times must be changing! hahah
    i think electric vehicles are great , once they get the bugs out , i will have one
    grid not overtaxed out here in the swamp
    i doubt if many are here are opposed , just don't like getting BS rammed down our throats
    no way city grids can handle it at this point
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  • Oct 22, 2020 | 17:39 28 No Def, thats an advantage Reply With Quote

  • Oct 22, 2020 | 19:33 29 Owning and using an electric vehicle would take some true planning with their current capabilities.

    You can drive from Regina to Calgary on a tank of fuel(depending on.....) but 560 kms on a single charge of that Hummer and how much time to top the batteries enough to get the rest of the way there? Then charge again.

    I wonder how long it would take before the fleet of ambulances, police vehicles or fire trucks are completely electric.
    Will that be the true test of "dependability" over fossil fuels.

    Time to recharge and travel range, convenience, reliabily and dependability will all have to meet petrol drive standards. Hopefully excede them in the future.

    It may evolve to surpass the status quo.

    I think understand the hp and torque capabilities(What electric is capable of)...... its just over kill for the application they are applying it to.

    For passenger vehicles..... lower those two factors in exchange for more travel distance on the same charge. Efficiency should be the goal.

    An electric vehicle's ability to self charge or partially self charge(through some sort of a low energy consuming self contained generator) to increase its travel range would be a huge game changer.
    Last edited by farmaholic; Oct 22, 2020 at 19:36.
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    Oct 22, 2020 | 19:54 30 Tow around a genset lol. Reply With Quote
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