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    My favourite solar power article of the day

    Looking through my favourite web sites this morning And found this one on the financial post: financial post.com/opinion/peter-foster-the-iea’s-solar-spin-cycle. The highlight of the article for me was that if all of the IEA’s projections of growth in solar happen by 2030 solar will only be supplying 8% of our primary electricity needs and therefore 2% of our overall energy needs. Coal will still be supplying 28% of our electricity in this scenario by 2030. Hydro will still by a wide margin be our largest source of renewable energy and fossil fuels will still be providing 76% of our total energy needs. Interesting read.
    Last edited by Hamloc; Oct 22, 2020, 07:34.

    #2
    So does this mean you are not going to have to freeze in dark Like you feared? That’s good news Hamloc!

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      #3
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      So does this mean you are not going to have to freeze in dark Like you feared? That’s good news Hamloc!
      Chuck2 you had a post recently about how COVID-19 is going to reshape the future of energy. This article puts some context to the numbers. I believe you stated that 80% of new electrical generation will come from solar. What I found eye opening is that all this promotion and bluster will only amount to solar producing 8% of the worlds electricity up from roughly 2% now by 2030. Yup definitely reshaping our future.

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        #4
        How could renewable energy get to 8% if you say it doesn't work? LOL

        8% is very significant considering the scale of energy systems on the planet.

        So how long did it take for coal to spread around the world and power the industrial revolution?

        How long did it take for coal to be replaced by other fossil fuels and electricity?

        Did it happen in 2 years, 10 years, 50 years or longer?

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          #5
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          How could renewable energy get to 8% if you say it doesn't work? LOL

          8% is very significant considering the scale of energy systems on the planet.

          So how long did it take for coal to spread around the world and power the industrial revolution?

          How long did it take for coal to be replaced by other fossil fuels and electricity?

          Did it happen in 2 years, 10 years, 50 years or longer?
          Chuck2 I was referring to solar energy not renewable energy, we already have a tremendous amount of renewable energy in Canada in the form of hydroelectric power.

          As for coal, as the article points out(which as usual you didn’t read) by 2030 28% of the worlds electricity will still come from coal, so to answer your question coal still hasn’t been replaced.

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            #6
            Yes Canada is well ahead on renewable hydro. Its a great advantage for us.

            As I thought, you don't know much about the history of technological change and how long it takes or will take. And neither do I. LOL

            And for the record a large percentage of the worlds poor are still using wood to cook and to heat their homes. They are still waiting for any technology to improve their lives.

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              #7
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Yes Canada is well ahead on renewable hydro. Its a great advantage for us.

              As I thought, you don't know much about the history of technological change and how long it takes or will take. And neither do I. LOL

              And for the record a large percentage of the worlds poor are still using wood to cook and to heat their homes. They are still waiting for any technology to improve their lives.
              Chuck2 in most countries coal fired electrical generation was shut down by either government legislation or government taxation. As for using wood for heat I have many friends and relatives that use wood for heat, I guess a lot of the people I know are poor, wasn’t aware of that lol!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                Chuck2 in most countries coal fired electrical generation was shut down by either government legislation or government taxation. As for using wood for heat I have many friends and relatives that use wood for heat, I guess a lot of the people I know are poor, wasn’t aware of that lol!
                Turns out Germany is too poor to afford coal power too. So poor they need to import wood from Africa to replace the coal:
                https://notrickszone.com/2020/10/20/environmental-****-of-africa-hamburg-power-plants-aim-to-deforest-namibia-for-power-plant-fuel/ https://notrickszone.com/2020/10/20/environmental-****-of-africa-hamburg-power-plants-aim-to-deforest-namibia-for-power-plant-fuel/

                And Britain:
                https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/16/hardwood-forests-cut-down-feed-drax-power-plant-channel-4-dispatches-claims https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/16/hardwood-forests-cut-down-feed-drax-power-plant-channel-4-dispatches-claims

                And many others in Europe:
                https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/10/14/the-great-biomass-boondoggle/ https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/10/14/the-great-biomass-boondoggle/

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Yes Canada is well ahead on renewable hydro. Its a great advantage for us.

                  As I thought, you don't know much about the history of technological change and how long it takes or will take. And neither do I. LOL

                  And for the record a large percentage of the worlds poor are still using wood to cook and to heat their homes. They are still waiting for any technology to improve their lives.
                  Canada was maybe at one time ahead in hydro , but under the current environmental restrictions and First Nations issues I highly doubt hydro will progress anywhere in Canada in the foreseeable future.

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                    #10
                    We need small nuclear plants, not solar. Till then, we need to burn organic fuels,,, organic fuels that come from decaying plants and animals from thousands of years ago.

                    Lingering Legacy: Millions of Toxic Solar Panels That Can’t Be Recycled Destined for Landfills
                    https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp/

                    sorry with the dead link,,, here it is hot.

                    https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp
                    Last edited by beaverdam; Oct 23, 2020, 18:41.

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                      #11
                      https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/17/fast-facts-about-u-s-views-on-oil-and-gas-production-as-white-house-moves-to-open-alaska-refuge-to-drilling/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/17/fast-facts-about-u-s-views-on-oil-and-gas-production-as-white-house-moves-to-open-alaska-refuge-to-drilling/

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
                        We need small nuclear plants, not solar. Till then, we need to burn organic fuels,,, organic fuels that come from decaying plants and animals from thousands of years ago.

                        Lingering Legacy: Millions of Toxic Solar Panels That Can’t Be Recycled Destined for Landfills
                        https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp/

                        sorry with the dead link,,, here it is hot.

                        https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp
                        Fairly quiet about this post 🤨
                        Again not totally ditchin solar but this ☝🏾 is exactly the bad side no one will talk about . Or those landfills full of turbine blades ... must be fake news .
                        There is good and bad in everything.... it’s not all “sunshine and lollipops” but the green movement stays silent on this but bashes oil at every move .... it kinda ironic is all

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                          #13
                          Federal government invests in small nuclear reactors to help it meet net-zero 2050 target

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-small-modular-reactors-net-zero-1.5763762 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-small-modular-reactors-net-zero-1.5763762

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Federal government invests in small nuclear reactors to help it meet net-zero 2050 target

                            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-small-modular-reactors-net-zero-1.5763762 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-small-modular-reactors-net-zero-1.5763762
                            This actually makes some sense at least .
                            Too bad Trudeau wasted $200 million on a modi’s casino and another $200 million recently, that’s $400 million just thrown away ... could have set up small nuke plants all over the country. Then just used solar can be used for small pet projects like yours and others .
                            Cause be honest , solar will never be a mainstay in 90% of Canada year around big scale , wind neither . It’s will always be a supplement in this climate at best .

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              Federal government invests in small nuclear reactors to help it meet net-zero 2050 target

                              https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-small-modular-reactors-net-zero-1.5763762 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-small-modular-reactors-net-zero-1.5763762
                              The one modular nuclear plant in the article will produce up to 195 megawatts. For shits and giggles I looked up how many acres of solar panels tp produce a megawatt of electricity. The one research article I read said 8 acres, so 195 megawatts would take 1560 acres. So I wonder is the molten salt reactor or a bunch of solar panels better for the environment? As for our Prime Minister let’s see $295 million to Ford to build electric cars, $20 million for nuclear power hmmmm.

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