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Ford Canada, Unifor reach tentative deal that includes $2B in EV contracts

Sep 23, 2020 | 07:29 1 Ford Canada, Unifor reach tentative deal that includes $2B in EV contracts

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ford...acts-1.5114681

"Under the proposed settlement, Unifor national president Jerry Dias said $1.95 billion will be invested in Ford's Canadian plants, including $1.8 billion toward the production of five electric vehicles in Oakville, Ont., and an engine contract that could yield new jobs in Windsor, Ont."


But I am sure someone will tell us those aren't real jobs in Ontario. All the jobs are going to Michigan right! LOL Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2020 | 07:32 2 Anybody thinking about an all electric F150 in 2022? Lots of power and range. I am sure it won't be cheap but when did farmers care about the cost of shiny new pickups! You gotta impress the neighbors right! LOL Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2020 | 07:36 3
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
Anybody thinking about an all electric F150 in 2022? Lots of power and range. I am sure it won't be cheap but when did farmers care about the cost of shiny new pickups! You gotta impress the neighbors right! LOL
Will be interested in a good used one maybe buy 2024 or 2025 for half price of new and a little dinged up . Will see after a few years how they hold up through a Canadian winter or two .

My current 2011 F350 with 240,000 km with rust and dents may need replacing by then . Be tough to replace that diesel power though .... time will tell . Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 23, 2020 | 07:39 4
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    . All the jobs are going to Michigan right! LOL
    Texas

    No electric vehicles will ever be made in Canada or even driven in Canada unless we double our grid capacity in a hurry and add some nukes. NEVER HAPPEN. Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 07:39 5 Furrow don't do it! A5 will look down on you and call you a marxist! LOL Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 07:42 6
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Anybody thinking about an all electric F150 in 2022? Lots of power and range. I am sure it won't be cheap but when did farmers care about the cost of shiny new pickups! You gotta impress the neighbors right! LOL
    You should save the world and be the first in line ..... Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 07:44 7
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Texas

    No electric vehicles will ever be made in Canada or even driven in Canada unless we double our grid capacity in a hurry and add some nukes. NEVER HAPPEN.
    Jazz can you read? Duh! We already have many electric vehicles. Petro Canada has a country wide charging charging system. It will be a long transition but its already here! Ford is just adding new capacity!

    I will happily use some of my 35000 kwh solar per year to charge up! Don't need an upgrade at my house. If I do I can always add more panels. Most vehicles sit doing nothing all day at work or at home. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 23, 2020 | 07:47 8
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    You should save the world and be the first in line .....
    A4 has lead the way. I am more cautious and want to see how they workout first.

    I am still using an outhouse and a partyline! LOL Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 07:49 9 Where are the billions coming from ?


    Ford or the taxpayer.... Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 07:49 10 So Chuck, Charge during the day, drive at night. Am I correct? Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 07:56 11 Fast charge anytime the sun is shining! As I said most vehicles are sitting all day at work or when the sun is shining. Lots of sun time to charge. Even in winter. Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:03 12
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Furrow don't do it! A5 will look down on you and call you a marxist! LOL
    I doubt it , A5 has common sense , unlike some Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:10 13 Electric vehicles will take 48-72 hrs to charge under a city eclectic grid configuration and yes that would have to be an enforced night charge. Chuck can go drive his tesla in the corn field. Thats not where people live.

    Some people are delusional. Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:16 14 Chuck chuck probably doesnt know this but Evraz ...the steel company in Regina...actually gets a break on their electrical rate because Saskpower can call them and tell them to stop melting during peak hours or if there is issues with the grid...

    So adding a bunch of vehicle charging to the cities of Saskatoon and Regina may cause an issue not only for Saskpower infrastructure but businesses as well... Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:22 15
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Texas

    No electric vehicles will ever be made in Canada or even driven in Canada unless we double our grid capacity in a hurry and add some nukes. NEVER HAPPEN.


    Manitoba could switch every car to electric and wouldn't have to do much for grid upgrades.

    Once again, uninformed. Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:27 16
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Manitoba could switch every car to electric and wouldn't have to do much for grid upgrades.

    Once again, uninformed.
    The upgrades are required at the home, street and transformer level. Generation isnt the problem. Local delivery is. The guy from BC hydro already confirmed this.

    Dont need permission from us. Lets see if your province can handle the cost overruns. Reply With Quote
    ALBERTAFARMER4's Avatar Sep 23, 2020 | 08:28 17
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Will be interested in a good used one maybe buy 2024 or 2025 for half price of new and a little dinged up . Will see after a few years how they hold up through a Canadian winter or two .

    My current 2011 F350 with 240,000 km with rust and dents may need replacing by then . Be tough to replace that diesel power though .... time will tell .

    What does dinged up mean? What is rust? I expect all trucks to be made of 1/8 inch stainless steel. Ford tough! Reply With Quote
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    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:42 18 [QUOTE=chuckChuck;466446)

    I am still using an outhouse and a partyline! LOL[/QUOTE]

    That’s not hard to believe. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 23, 2020 | 08:44 19
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Where are the billions coming from ?


    Ford or the taxpayer....
    Carbon tax of course. Reply With Quote
    Sep 23, 2020 | 08:45 20
    Quote Originally Posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
    What does dinged up mean? What is rust? I expect all trucks to be made of 1/8 inch stainless steel. Ford tough!
    Tesla making a tinfoil truck 25,000 or less in the near future. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 23, 2020 | 09:03 21 Will make a good truck for towing the trailer to Arizona unfortunately freezing temperatures are kryptonite for lithium batteries. Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 07:40 22 Doesn't seem to be much celebrating about all the Ford jobs and EV contracts!

    Is this is because the EV jobs don't fit with the narrative that the economy is "going to hell" because of EVs and renwewable energy?

    All we hear is crickets. Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 07:55 23
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Doesn't seem to be much celebrating about all the Ford jobs and EV contracts!

    Is this is because the EV jobs don't fit with the narrative that the economy is "going to hell" because of EVs and renwewable energy?

    All we hear is crickets.
    Chuck did you read the article? There are presently 4250 people working at the Oakville plant. Jerry says with the new contract 3000 jobs will continue into the future. Jerry says it wasn’t a problem many were eligible for retirement anyway. Yes it looks like a real boon for jobs!!!! Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 08:30 24 Automation my friend. Robots are taking over! Haha Do you still use the same tractor from 30 years ago for your larger farm which requires less labour per acre? Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 09:30 25
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Automation my friend. Robots are taking over! Haha Do you still use the same tractor from 30 years ago for your larger farm which requires less labour per acre?
    F U C K Chuck , I do,my newest 4WD tractor is 12 years old and my oldest one is 39 so don't tell me about old equipment. Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 09:44 26
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Electric vehicles will take 48-72 hrs to charge under a city eclectic grid configuration and yes that would have to be an enforced night charge. Chuck can go drive his tesla in the corn field. Thats not where people live.

    Some people are delusional.
    A Tesla takes 4 hours from dead to charge on 220. 2 hours to 80%.

    You can buy dual 110 chargers where you use both 110 phases even if you don't have a 220 dedicated plug in a pinch.

    BTW Jazz, did you know Electric companies are in the business of selling electricity? Also like Chuck says, with your own solar grid to charge up your car and commute to work is an excellent method of transportation. Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 09:46 27
    Quote Originally Posted by 6V53 View Post
    Will make a good truck for towing the trailer to Arizona unfortunately freezing temperatures are kryptonite for lithium batteries.
    In a few years there will be solid state batteries far less susceptible to temperature. Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 09:59 28
    Quote Originally Posted by tweety View Post
    also like Chuck says, with your own solar grid to charge up your car and commute to work is an excellent method of transportation.
    Do you work the night shift? Or do you propose to charge your batteries off solar at night? Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 17:56 29
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Ford Canada, Unifor reach tentative deal that includes $2B in EV contracts

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ford...acts-1.5114681

    "Under the proposed settlement, Unifor national president Jerry Dias said $1.95 billion will be invested in Ford's Canadian plants, including $1.8 billion toward the production of five electric vehicles in Oakville, Ont., and an engine contract that could yield new jobs in Windsor, Ont."


    But I am sure someone will tell us those aren't real jobs in Ontario. All the jobs are going to Michigan right! LOL
    This was simply to avoid a snap election.....


    NDP’s just sold out to the rest of Canada on the backs of a few Union jobs .
    Trudeau stays in. NDP keep what’s left of their dwindling support base Reply With Quote
    Sep 25, 2020 | 18:17 30 Good, the WE scandal committee's can get back to work, it will be interesting who the PM will choose to change oil in the bus this time.

    Chagger would look good in coveralls. Reply With Quote