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Sep 18, 2020 | 08:22 1 Def systems .....
repairs are outrageous and downtime when rain coming is invaluable

One word .... delete.... priceless
Last edited by furrowtickler; Sep 18, 2020 at 08:26.
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  • Sep 18, 2020 | 08:24 2 Yes what a joke but not really when the dollars add up and only certain people can work on them. Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 18, 2020 | 08:32 3 I agree as long as it's done correctly.
    I have seen mods do some very bad things. Knowing who's system to use my current hurdle. Reply With Quote
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  • ajl
    Sep 18, 2020 | 09:03 4 Now think about how all this warrantee work on emissions systems has cranked up the service rates at the stealership if you really want your blood to boil. They don't need your job because of all the warrantee work staked up at the door 24/7. At least the bolts are not too rusty as that stuff is all brand new. Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Sep 18, 2020 | 09:16 5
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Def systems .....
    repairs are outrageous and downtime when rain coming is invaluable

    One word .... delete.... priceless
    The red stuff is so easy.
    For 1500 bucks no more problems. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 09:18 6
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    I agree as long as it's done correctly.
    I have seen mods do some very bad things. Knowing who's system to use my current hurdle.
    Do not use a plug in box.... Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2020 | 09:31 7 Would gladly use Def if it wasn’t associated with lots of downtime. Unfortunately all of my machines with Def were problems and have finally been deleted. My New Holland combine did not have a download for Def so ended up using a module.

    What are the problems with plug and play systems for Def? Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 10:25 8 When the system fails and derates or goes into limp mode, does it do it because it HAS to, to prevent system damage or because its "PROGRAMMED" to.

    If no system damage would occur at least let the damn machine operate as usual. As furrow said, emissions down time is very frustrating and costly.....in lost revenue and the expense of fixing it.

    Got to admit, it does clean up the exhaust. Just make it more user friendly. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 10:36 9 My combine has 200 chopping hours on it....a casting broke for the intermediate drive....fixed it...
    And it broke again exact same break 80 hours. ..and the closest part is Germany. ..and they think I am paying. ..

    They got me going by yanking the part off a lot combine.
    Last edited by bucket; Sep 18, 2020 at 10:38.
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    Sep 18, 2020 | 10:42 10 Thats why i farm with okd junk Reply With Quote

  • Sep 18, 2020 | 11:07 11 Kicking my ass for not buying that JD7410 with about 48-4900 hours on it. FWA, and loader.....NO EMISSIONS like particulate filter or DEF, not sure about EGR though.

    $68,000, local tractor and knew the owner. Reply With Quote
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  • ajl
    Sep 18, 2020 | 11:38 12 A 7410 won't have an EGR. Great tractor. Hardly qualifies for old junk though. Around here there are still 4020, IH 86 series, Case 70 & 90 series, AC 7040 still working in the fields. Now we are talking. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2020 | 14:52 13
    Quote Originally Posted by sofa.king View Post
    Thats why i farm with okd junk
    As long as I have fuel, air, and compression we’re golden😎 Reply With Quote

  • Sep 18, 2020 | 16:11 14 Nothing on the farm takes def and I think I will keep it like that. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2020 | 16:29 15
    Quote Originally Posted by ajl View Post
    A 7410 won't have an EGR. Great tractor. Hardly qualifies for old junk though. Around here there are still 4020, IH 86 series, Case 70 & 90 series, AC 7040 still working in the fields. Now we are talking.
    I’m looking for another 3130 or maybe a 4030 this winter Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 16:52 16
    Quote Originally Posted by ajl View Post
    A 7410 won't have an EGR. Great tractor. Hardly qualifies for old junk though. Around here there are still 4020, IH 86 series, Case 70 & 90 series, AC 7040 still working in the fields. Now we are talking.
    4430 out building bales here currently. It’s light and nimble and trouble free generally. No electronics or emissions to deal with.

    Love that thing Reply With Quote
    blackpowder's Avatar Sep 18, 2020 | 17:35 17
    Quote Originally Posted by woodland View Post
    4430 out building bales here currently. It’s light and nimble and trouble free generally. No electronics or emissions to deal with.

    Love that thing
    Until you get a Magnum. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 19:56 18
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    Until you get a Magnum.
    Nah. I got a couple 4760’s. They’ll take your boxcar out behind the woodshed where it belongs😉


    Just kidding............... Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 21:59 19 I have a 4430 with 10500 hours on the engine and still going strong. Doesn’t burn any oil but not burning the fuel as clean as you would like. Very handy and gets used almost every day. Really like the old girl and almost time for a rebuild. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2020 | 22:04 20 What’s DEF? 😉 Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2020 | 22:11 21
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    What’s DEF? 😉
    When you can't hear. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 25, 2020 | 06:46 22
    Quote Originally Posted by sofa.king View Post
    Thats why i farm with okd junk
    The only DEF I have is Def Leppard on my stereo! HaHa ! Reply With Quote