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Sep 14, 2020 | 16:45 1 He got me thinking this morning about many on here with outdated thinking etc.

Guess that’s why he hates single desk marketing so much and has moved on from it, it’s outdated.

At least I agree on that with him.

Off to get some promised crop pics for you today.

You all need some light humour. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 14, 2020 | 16:58 2
    Quote Originally Posted by malleefarmer View Post
    He got me thinking this morning about many on here with outdated thinking etc.

    Guess that’s why he hates single desk marketing so much and has moved on from it, it’s outdated.

    At least I agree on that with him.

    Off to get some promised crop pics for you today.

    You all need some light humour.
    Touche Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 14, 2020 | 18:00 3 Because his fellow Comrades at the NFU have certainly moved on. This from Aug 1 of 2020:
    https://www.nfu.ca/2020-hindsight-en...nomic-tragedy/
    First paragraph, sounds like this guy has moved on successfully, just like Chuck has:
    August 1st 2020 marks the 8th anniversary of one of the great economic tragedies in Canadian history. This was the day the wrecking ball swung by then Prime Minister Stephen Harper and former Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz finally destroyed one of the most important institutions working for economic justice for farmers – the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB). In a malicious act driven by wrong-headed doctrine, they chose to eliminate the CWB through the Orwellian-titled Marketing Freedom for Farmers Act.
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  • Sep 14, 2020 | 18:04 4 I guess the fact this imbecile doesnt give a shit what the MAJORITY of the people paying the bills wanted shows how fu-ked up they are Reply With Quote

  • Sep 14, 2020 | 18:29 5 I remember the day clearly. Best day of my farming career!

    Good riddance to the bloated Marxist bureaucracy! Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 14, 2020 | 18:36 6

    Found chuck Reply With Quote

  • Sep 14, 2020 | 18:50 7 https://youtu.be/1YLMFbYe7MU

    Thanks to whoever did this. It hit all the right notes. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 14, 2020 | 23:13 8 well thats chuck , isn't it ?? when he was on the "board" Reply With Quote
    Sep 14, 2020 | 23:16 9
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    well thats chuck , isn't it ?? when he was on the "board"
    Nah , the day when the CWB was dismantled Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 06:38 10 Its over boys....its over! You won! Harpo and Ritz delivered you marketing "freedom" in the promised land! And wheat prices have gone through the roof and your biggest problem is trying to figure out how to spend all your wheat income! Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 06:48 11
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Its over boys....its over! You won! Harpo and Ritz delivered you marketing "freedom" in the promised land! And wheat prices have gone through the roof and your biggest problem is trying to figure out how to spend all your wheat income!
    we sure have done better than that thieven bunch of bastards
    highest price last year was $8.20 for #2 , 17.2 px , and i got to spend the "cream" off the top in honduras last winter, on myself , instead of supporting a criminal org.
    how did you make out Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 06:55 12 Since the CWB has gone things are so much better that you hardly hear any complaining and whining about farming anymore on Agrisilly. LOL Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 06:56 13 I think a lot of farmers are missing something. ....my dad bought halftons with a three ton load of wheat....a 750 Massey with 6000 bushels of wheat - 36000 in 1976.....

    If you think grain prices are keeping pace you are wrong and eventually volume will no longer cut it....

    Plus the fact our neighbors to the south.....while using the open markets to price grain....are slso being handed over 50 billion Canadian in last few years from Trump ....that has impacted the open market pricing considerably in Canada....

    Thinking that since the Cwb is gone you are better off.....is being a bit disingenuous to yourself....prices are no better you are just getting paid upfront...

    The system in Canada is still very much broken..... Reply With Quote

  • Sep 15, 2020 | 07:36 14
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    I think a lot of farmers are missing something. ....my dad bought halftons with a three ton load of wheat....a 750 Massey with 6000 bushels of wheat - 36000 in 1976.....

    If you think grain prices are keeping pace you are wrong and eventually volume will no longer cut it....

    Plus the fact our neighbors to the south.....while using the open markets to price grain....are slso being handed over 50 billion Canadian in last few years from Trump ....that has impacted the open market pricing considerably in Canada....

    Thinking that since the Cwb is gone you are better off.....is being a bit disingenuous to yourself....prices are no better you are just getting paid upfront...

    The system in Canada is still very much broken.....
    So all the problems weren't caused by the CWB? Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 07:50 15
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    So all the problems weren't caused by the CWB?
    Thats not what I said....or implied....what needed to be done was a change in the grain market in Canada....

    There is still no accountability...no transparency ....its a shitshow....the CWB could have changed it ...chose not too...and the conservatives with Ritz there made a mess of the current system....still no accountability or transparency....


    Meanwhile american farmer are getting billions in help which directly impacts the markets we are now forced to price our grain off...

    Sad part is the conservatives put in the ag critic position a person that is just a lark for the incompetence of the those that created this current mess...

    37 boats floating....crickets....50 percent space at west coast ... crickets....bumper crop....and being able to move it .....crickets....guess who will be picking up the bill associated with this.....thats right the guys that love building shiny new 10000 to 30000 bushel snow fence...


    In a few months there will be an outcry that the crop isn't moving because of the weather....no one in farm group wants to be proactive.....its easier to be reactive....
    Last edited by bucket; Sep 15, 2020 at 07:52.
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  • Sep 15, 2020 | 07:53 16 Bucket I do appreciate your perspective! You are breath of fresh air on this site. Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 08:34 17 Well boys I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and not very well educated but i do know one thing for certain. The government will f--k up everything it touches! It will cost much more and take much longer to complete even the simplest tasks.

    Why would i want them marketing my grain? Reply With Quote

  • Sep 15, 2020 | 08:40 18
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Bucket I do appreciate your perspective! You are breath of fresh air on this site.
    He certainly is , definitely not single minded at all 👍 Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 15, 2020 | 08:44 19
    Quote Originally Posted by seldomseen View Post
    Well boys I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and not very well educated but i do know one thing for certain. The government will f--k up everything it touches! It will cost much more and take much longer to complete even the simplest tasks.

    Why would i want them marketing my grain?
    They are not suppose to market your grain....they are suppose to regulate and enforce accountability and transparency.... that's what the USDA does in the states....you make a grain sale you report it....every company complies with that order....and someone keeps track....right or wrong....

    In Canada no one regulates and no one keeps track. Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Sep 15, 2020 | 08:45 20 It was a large pervasive tumor.
    It required drastic surgery.
    Some have walked bent over so long they have forgotten how to walk straight.
    The evidence of the results are so obvious they shouldn't need constant listing. Reply With Quote
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    LEP

  • Sep 15, 2020 | 08:52 21
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
    It was a large pervasive tumor.
    It required drastic surgery.
    Some have walked bent over so long they have forgotten how to walk straight.
    The evidence of the results are so obvious they shouldn't need constant listing.
    Sounds like you could be referring to the CWB in past tense, or the poster in the title of this thread in present tense. Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 08:55 22
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    He certainly is , definitely not single minded at all 👍
    Every farmer should take a wide angle view of everyday life....

    4 billion for 300 irrigation farmers and forgetting about the other 39000 farmers in Saskatchewan.

    A crop insurance system that's archaic.

    An agristability system that's useless. ...they took my personal cheque for the premium but I don't qualify for CEBA....crickets from MPs ....

    Etc etc etc....take the blinders off people and connect dots....it's all coming from same pocket when government is involved....your tax dollars. ...

    I was told that the feds might get involved on this irrigation....it's the same tax dollars....ffs... Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 15, 2020 | 08:59 23
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Every farmer should take a wide angle view of everyday life....

    4 billion for 300 irrigation farmers and forgetting about the other 39000 farmers in Saskatchewan.

    A crop insurance system that's archaic.

    An agristability system that's useless. ...they took my personal cheque for the premium but I don't qualify for CEBA....crickets from MPs ....

    Etc etc etc....take the blinders off people and connect dots....it's all coming from same pocket when government is involved....your tax dollars. ...

    I was told that the feds might get involved on this irrigation....it's the same tax dollars....ffs...
    Absolutely agree bucket , we are diverse bunch over a huge geographical are and nothing is a one size fits all in western Canada Ag .... nothing 👍 Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 09:02 24
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Absolutely agree bucket , we are diverse bunch over a huge geographical are and nothing is a one size fits all in western Canada Ag .... nothing 👍
    And yet they can do it in the states....how is that. ?

    Peanuts cotton hay wheat soy corn etc all is covered...few farmers left behind
    Last edited by bucket; Sep 15, 2020 at 09:05.
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    Sep 15, 2020 | 21:36 25 I know we’ve been over this ground before.

    Crop failure here tough titties you wear it. Frost you wear it. Doesn’t germ8nate due to drought suck it up princess.

    Only thing insurable hail and fire. Reply With Quote
    Sep 15, 2020 | 21:39 26 i sure wouldn't like that !
    sure appreciate Sask crop insurance Reply With Quote
    Sep 16, 2020 | 03:21 27 Been discussed in Australia for maybe last 20 25 yrs.

    Price protection subsidies insurance what ever ya want to call it leads to one thing artificially increases in price of land due to the fact your rarely lose out and marginal land being farmed throw in govt support it’s a slippery slope.

    And over production.

    Right or wrong who knows that’s the way it is here , life hands you lemons make lemonade nope stuff that learn to stomach lemons pussies Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 16, 2020 | 05:42 28
    Quote Originally Posted by seldomseen View Post
    Well boys I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and not very well educated but i do know one thing for certain. The government will f--k up everything it touches! It will cost much more and take much longer to complete even the simplest tasks.

    Why would i want them marketing my grain?
    Actually if they don’t make good trade deals we don’t have markets. Do you make the trade deals? So they do have a large marketing part of our grain. All you have is rhe choice of picking which of the few companies will screw you. You don’t really market anything. Ever speak directly to a Chinese buyer? India? Mexico? If you did you could then say you actually market something.

    Domestically we need clarity on how our prices are arrived at, how our grain is moved, graded, mixed and then sold. What the basis screw job is all about. That load of feed wheat is it really sold as feed when it gets mixed? What is the actual price of canary seed it definately isn’t what we’re getting. Who makes the deals for canary prices? Less than a handful of people.
    Peas has its issues somewhere between us and overseas 1.50 to 2 bucks is lost?????
    Barley malt scam??? Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 16, 2020 | 06:29 29 And where are all those USA buyers that were supposedly going to flood across the 49th driving right up to your farmgate with their cheque book in their hands to buy your wheat?

    As for the CWB, they published an annual report yearly. How many of guys have received an annual report from Cargill or the Three Families in Winnipeg reporting how much money they made off your wheat sales to them that THEY marketed for you around the world.

    We sure don't hear from John De Pape or Brenda J Lepp anymore here on Agriville with all their marketing knowledge about how great those Wheat prices are now that marketing freedom is here.

    It was so easy for the Ostrich Farmer to shut the CWB down, not so easy to have a follow up plan in place. Reply With Quote
    Sep 16, 2020 | 06:35 30 It would be nice to just have and transparent and accountable system....

    I realize the graincos have to make money but if they starve the farmer ...what is their gain in that?

    We all have to make money....and when it doesnt happen you have to do what the Americans do and push government money at farmers...

    There is no politician speaking for farmers....in western Canada right now....if there was they would be a little concerned about the vessels at the west coast , the space , and the fact grain isn't moving like it should.


    All terminals of 25000 tonnes or more have the ability to move a unit train once every two weeks...its not happening... Reply With Quote