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Aug 12, 2020 | 21:34 1 Cops had the road blocked off for some stupid road check cash grab, kid jumped the ditch to get to his field, then violently pulled from tractor and arrested. Brother also arrested for trying to retrieve the property afterwards. Cops impound tractor.



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Aug 12, 2020 | 21:51 2 What do you say Chuck, can we count on your support for the honest hardworking folks Lives Matter rally in Central Alberta? Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 12, 2020 | 22:17 3 What is the whole story? Did he refuse to take the breathalyzer? Why did the current ndp government have this rural spot check? So many questions. Reply With Quote
    Aug 12, 2020 | 22:28 4 Where is Paul Harvey when you need him >>the rest of the story. Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar Aug 12, 2020 | 22:33 5 Thanks EVIL Liberal slime for our Shithole status! CCP would be proud of our police. Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 12, 2020 | 22:37 6
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    What is the whole story? Did he refuse to take the breathalyzer? Why did the current ndp government have this rural spot check? So many questions.
    Why should he have to subject to a breathalyzer for the simple crime of trying to get to his property and earn a living? That wasn't a crime the last time I checked.

    An officer couldn't walk up to the tractor and calmly query him what his intention was? It didn't dawn on the cops that its rained every fing day in AB and this kid was just trying to get the hay put up? Do they get a lot of drunk tractor driving incidents?

    My trust in cops has diminished greatly during this past 6 months.
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  • Aug 12, 2020 | 23:15 7 Damn Shame. Just can’t believe what’s going on.
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  • Aug 13, 2020 | 00:55 8
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Why should he have to subject to a breathalyzer for the simple crime of trying to get to his property and earn a living? That wasn't a crime the last time I checked.

    An officer couldn't walk up to the tractor and calmly query him what his intention was? It didn't dawn on the cops that its rained every fing day in AB and this kid was just trying to get the hay put up? Do they get a lot of drunk tractor driving incidents?

    My trust in cops has diminished greatly during this past 6 months.
    So obviously you don’t know that some stops are strategic? As in a seemingly routine stop check may actually be a check for something else. Whereby everyone is subject to the rules. If law enforcement tells you to stop you stop.
    That’s why there is way too much missing from this story to know what’s up.
    Are you saying some are exempt from the authorities doing their job? If it was a black kid and it has been said in the past when authorities tell you to stop or what ever that’s what you do.
    You stop you do the breathalyzer your not drunk off you go pretty simple. Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 04:39 9 Tractors are motorized vehicles, drunk driving laws apply to them.
    Being "home schooled" shouldn't make you niave or stupid.
    If he has a driver's license I'm quite sure the driver's hand book explains the ramifications of drunk driving and what is required if you are asked to comply with a request for a breathalyzer test.

    Did the Sheriffs use a little too much force with too little understanding....yeah probably.

    Is there more to this than is being reported or is it a real bad display of power tripping sheriffs?

    100K of lost revenue? Really? A little less drama please.

    Go fund me? Fendts aren't cheap. ....I saw two.

    Law enforcement already reducing charges, probably be thrown out, but legal system probably has to make an example as to not set precedence.

    Devil's Advocate this morning....
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  • Aug 13, 2020 | 04:41 10 What the left or Notley s govt. Had to do with any of this is a mystery.
    Do you people know a lot of Over zealous cops that are Notley voters?
    Like Really!
    Over zealous cops are just that. And we all know what happens when a kid ,or anyone
    with a little attitude, crosses them. Innocently or not. Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 05:48 11
    Quote Originally Posted by sawfly1 View Post
    What the left or Notley s govt. Had to do with any of this is a mystery.
    Do you people know a lot of Over zealous cops that are Notley voters?
    Like Really!
    Over zealous cops are just that. And we all know what happens when a kid ,or anyone
    with a little attitude, crosses them. Innocently or not.

    “Crosses them’ ? Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 06:05 12 Is this the same police force that lets people block highways and railways? Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 06:16 13
    Quote Originally Posted by TSIPP View Post
    Is this the same police force that lets people block highways and railways?
    Yup it is , hmmmmmm Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 13, 2020 | 07:03 14
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    Tractors are motorized vehicles, drunk driving laws apply to them.
    Being "home schooled" shouldn't make you niave or stupid.
    If he has a driver's license I'm quite sure the driver's hand book explains the ramifications of drunk driving and what is required if you are asked to comply with a request for a breathalyzer test.

    Did the Sheriffs use a little too much force with too little understanding....yeah probably.

    Is there more to this than is being reported or is it a real bad display of power tripping sheriffs?

    100K of lost revenue? Really? A little less drama please.

    Go fund me? Fendts aren't cheap. ....I saw two.

    Law enforcement already reducing charges, probably be thrown out, but legal system probably has to make an example as to not set precedence.

    Devil's Advocate this morning....
    I have no tolerance for drinking and driving, if that is what what happened here, good for the cops for nabbing him, albeit a little aggressive. My guess is a neighbor asked for the stake out as this may be a recurring issue Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 13, 2020 | 07:03 15
    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    “Crosses them’ ?
    Was being sarcastic about ndp government.
    Because if it were ndp gov that’s who would be brought up by a few on here.

    I too think overzealous cops likely but yet just don’t know the whole story. Was he asked to get out of tractor if so did he say f you or no I don’t have to?

    What this does help prove is that maybe the problem with the police isn’t racial at all. As this is not a black or indigenous person. And maybe there is no problem with the police at all if they asked and he didn’t follow the rules.

    Way too much not known. Reply With Quote
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    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:10 16
    Quote Originally Posted by sawfly1 View Post
    What the left or Notley s govt. Had to do with any of this is a mystery.
    Do you people know a lot of Over zealous cops that are Notley voters?
    Like Really!
    Over zealous cops are just that. And we all know what happens when a kid ,or anyone
    with a little attitude, crosses them. Innocently or not.

    The Notely connection here is that they changed the law to allow police to demand a breath test wether or not there was probable cause in Dec 18. I was stopped out in the boonies because my ladder was sticking out of the back of the truck and breath sample was demanded even though my last drink was 6 months ago. Was just headed to some bins on the rented land to see if the spring thrash was heating so surprised to find RCMP on the back roads. Kenny and crew should change the law back to how it was a few years ago. Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:11 17 So the kid gets arrested for trying to runaway from police road check in a tractor? Sounds like he was avoiding a police road check and resisting arrest. Is there special rules for farm kids in tractors or am I missing something? Maybe they should have called his parents to discipline him or give him a time out? LOL

    The list of impaired drivers who have tried to runaway from accidents, road checks and breathalysers is a long one. Saskatchewan has the highest rates of impaired driving in the country. Several Saskparty MLAs have convictions. Its a serious crime because it puts a lot of peoples lives at risk. So I am in favour of more road checks and enforcement.

    Seems like a lot of people are soft on crime when it involves impaired driving! Could it be because there are so many criminals driving impaired? Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:17 18 Before any preconceived notions , was he drinking or not ? Until that is established one should not speculate. A simple blood test will show .
    From what I understand there is no word wether he was intoxicated or not .
    Most of the other “bad” arrests the poor “victims” were highly intoxicated and or nearly OD in bad drugs .
    Will wait to see on this one .
    But most definitely looks bad on cops again . Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:22 19
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    So the kid gets arrested for trying to runaway from police road check in a tractor? Sounds like he was avoiding a police road check and resisting arrest. Is there special rules for farm kids in tractors or am I missing something? Maybe they should have called his parents to discipline him or give him a time out? LOL

    The list of impaired drivers who have tried to runaway from accidents, road checks and breathalysers is a long one. Saskatchewan has the highest rates of impaired driving in the country. Several Saskparty MLAs have convictions. Its a serious crime because it puts a lot of peoples lives at risk. So I am in favour of more road checks and enforcement.

    Seems like a lot of people are soft on crime when it involves impaired driving! Could it be because there are so many criminals driving impaired?
    Driving into a field to start going up and down the field doesn't exactly fit a "runaway" from police. He should have stopped no doubt but, overzealous cops is an understatement.

    While none of us condone impaired driving, the law that allows breath tests at any time, including in your home at anytime, is one more step over the line of complete suspension of our civil rights.

    Impounding the tractor is just beyond all common sense. Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 07:42 20
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Before any preconceived notions , was he drinking or not ? Until that is established one should not speculate. A simple blood test will show .
    From what I understand there is no word wether he was intoxicated or not .
    Most of the other “bad” arrests the poor “victims” were highly intoxicated and or nearly OD in bad drugs .
    Will wait to see on this one .
    But most definitely looks bad on cops again .

    Body cameras - no more bogus charges and police brutality. Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:46 21 The police need to be trained to deescalate whenever possible. Excessive force is not always necessary ,but unfortunately some cops are aggressive, but they also put up with a lot of aggressive dangerous people.

    I find it ironic, that over the months so many posters defended the police for doing their job when they were arresting black or indigenous people using excessive violence and force. But when it happens to a white farm boy, suddenly they are in the wrong?

    Using excessive force when it is not needed, should always be wrong. Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:50 22 Many years ago, I was bringing a tandem from Fort to Francis and cops lights came on behind me so due to the fact that #35 is very narrow with no shoulders and rolling I drove to the nearest approach to stop. At first cops were irate - really irate but after I explained that it was unsafe to stop in middle of road, they settled down. Glad they didn’t try to tear me in half and pin me with nebulous charges. 👍🍀🙏🏼🦨 Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 07:57 23
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    So the kid gets arrested for trying to runaway from police road check in a tractor? Sounds like he was avoiding a police road check and resisting arrest. Is there special rules for farm kids in tractors or am I missing something? Maybe they should have called his parents to discipline him or give him a time out? LOL

    The list of impaired drivers who have tried to runaway from accidents, road checks and breathalysers is a long one. Saskatchewan has the highest rates of impaired driving in the country. Several Saskparty MLAs have convictions. Its a serious crime because it puts a lot of peoples lives at risk. So I am in favour of more road checks and enforcement.

    Seems like a lot of people are soft on crime when it involves impaired driving! Could it be because there are so many criminals driving impaired?
    If he was drinking and trying to avoid the check stop why would he go in the ditch and drive past all the stopped vehicles and try to go past the check stop? Why wouldn't he just turn around and go back the way he came? Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 07:58 24 You guys are thinking some kid who was told to get 320 ac of hay raked up and get the machine home decided to hit the bottle and then go looking for trouble by trying to drive right by the cops and make a get away at 30mph?

    Cmon man, obviously the cops had nothing to actually arrest the kid on and didnt want to actually do their jobs so they overreacted and applied Justins unconstitutional drunk driving law to make their point. Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 08:06 25 Fendts are fast. But not fast enough for a getaway vehicle. Maybe they're the new "white Bronco". Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 08:16 26
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    So the kid gets arrested for trying to runaway from police road check in a tractor? Sounds like he was avoiding a police road check and resisting arrest. Is there special rules for farm kids in tractors or am I missing something? Maybe they should have called his parents to discipline him or give him a time out? LOL

    The list of impaired drivers who have tried to runaway from accidents, road checks and breathalysers is a long one. Saskatchewan has the highest rates of impaired driving in the country. Several Saskparty MLAs have convictions. Its a serious crime because it puts a lot of peoples lives at risk. So I am in favour of more road checks and enforcement.

    Seems like a lot of people are soft on crime when it involves impaired driving! Could it be because there are so many criminals driving impaired?
    Sounds like you are pretty *** sure you know exactly what took place ?
    You should call the cops and help them out with their investigation ?
    How are the hail adjusters treating you ? Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 08:45 27
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    Sounds like you are pretty *** sure you know exactly what took place ?
    You should call the cops and help them out with their investigation ?
    How are the hail adjusters treating you ?
    Hail adjusters - not all lovely people either. Get an independent agrlogist from SIA to adjust if they are unreasonable or some one might have another way to get a fair adjustment. Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Aug 13, 2020 | 08:48 28 As I've said before.
    The badge holds all the power.
    Most of us are schooled sooner or later.
    I've been nearly tasered for not stopping immediately with a header behind moving "too slow".
    Obviously the kid started yodelling and was schooled. Applies even to the Mennonites who live under rocks. Reply With Quote
    Aug 13, 2020 | 09:07 29 Most of the rcmp that show up in my town barely know what a gravel road is nevermind how farm equipment or farming works. Reply With Quote

  • Aug 13, 2020 | 09:22 30 Here's another devil's advocate scenario, what if the 18 year old adult was working for his families shingling company, and was told by his older brother to get over to the other house they were working on, as they needed to finish shingling before the rain came. When he got to the property there was a police check point for DD or something, and there was a length of cars ahead of him, being stopped on the road. The lane entrance is just a short way ahead, and because he's driving a 4x4 3/4 ton, he decides not to wait in line, but chooses to take the right side ditch, to drive past some or all of the waiting vehicles, so he can get on to the lane and get to work on the house,,, before rain comes. Do I have to say anything more than that?

    Clearly, the 18 year old adult refused to leave the tractor on his own accord, which caused the police to remove him by force. The tractor cab being so elevated above the ground, left what looks like,,, a rough arrest, when all of them tumbled to the ground.

    Home schooling doesn't mean you can exempt important parts of societal education, whether you have a drivers license or not. Does that mean if he's 35, he still gets a pass,,, because he was home schooled?

    I believe I've heard Mark Braford on Gormley say that you can get a DWI, while driving in a tractor, on your own property, working your own land.

    If the 18 year old adult is of low IQ and intellectually challenged, then he shouldn't be on the highway. Others should be moving the vehicle between fields for him.

    The 18 year old adult, took action with his vehicle, to avoid a police check-stop, and then refused to exit the vehicle. JustMyPointofView
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