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Aug 9, 2020 | 07:52 1 So how does it work that the PM's chief of staff Telford's husband's firm gets a 84 million dollar contract and they say no conflict....


She was recused at every discussion of MCAP administering the rent assistance program....


There is no phucking way when she is sleeping with the guy there isn't talk of the contract and she doesnt overhear things...


No wonder she sat in the finance committee meeting with a smug smile on her face... Reply With Quote

  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:00 2
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    No wonder she sat in the finance committee meeting with a smug smile on her face...
    Why is there always a percentage of the population who will chase after shady deals? I mean most farmers I know were concerned about the state of our debt and opted not to take any FCC or BDC loans and most passed on the CERB. Why? now when there are liberal trolls lining up at the trough. Nobody has any integrity anymore.

    And yes I include Bill Boyd and his shady GTH buddies. Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:12 3 CERB, CEBA, WE, and this rent assistance thing....are not for those who need it....these are programs that are essentially bailouts for banks and those connected to the politicians who owe some payback for the support...

    And any liberal politician that is blocking finding the truth or supporting the Prime Minister in his corruption are in on the payroll ..


    The CEBA 40000 loan ....is just stupid....how is it a 450 acre retired farmer who uses a company for tax purposes receives as much as a 4000 acre young sole proprietor...

    Do the math and you see the discrepancy in help....plus there are farms with numerous numbered companies getting multiples of the loan on the same acres...

    Some local farms will get 40000 in free money on the same farm size as a guy just getting the 40000...

    Some thought went into this alright....


    When programs are developed ...the only fair way is to set a rate per acre and cut the cheques on the acres....

    The 450 acre farmer gets 88 bucks an acre and really doesnt need it while the young guy gets 10 bucks an acre and that person has a few bills to pay.... Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 08:16 4 Yep and there was a long thread on Agrisilly about how to apply for CEBA! Agrisilly home of the "fiscal conservatives" LMAO

    Farmers lined up at the trough too even though many don't need it? How do you spell "hippo crits" Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 08:19 5
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    CERB, CEBA, WE, and this rent assistance thing....are not for those who need it....these are programs that are essentially bailouts for banks and those connected to the politicians who owe some payback for the support...

    And any liberal politician that is blocking finding the truth or supporting the Prime Minister in his corruption are in on the payroll ..


    The CEBA 40000 loan ....is just stupid....how is it a 450 acre retired farmer who uses a company for tax purposes receives as much as a 4000 acre young sole proprietor...

    Do the math and you see the discrepancy in help....plus there are farms with numerous numbered companies getting multiples of the loan on the same acres...

    Some local farms will get 40000 in free money on the same farm size as a guy just getting the 40000...

    Some thought went into this alright....


    When programs are developed ...the only fair way is to set a rate per acre and cut the cheques on the acres....

    The 450 acre farmer gets 88 bucks an acre and really doesnt need it while the young guy gets 10 bucks an acre and that person has a few bills to pay....
    The per acreage payment works very well for very large and succesful farms who don't need it! Its an untargeted subsidy! Are you not a fiscal conservative? Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 08:23 6
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Yep and there was a long thread on Agrisilly about how to apply for CEBA! Agrisilly home of the "fiscal conservatives" LMAO

    Farmers lined up at the trough too even though many don't need it? How do you spell "hippo crits"
    You make a good point chuck because while I see those wannabe irrigators and existing irrigators calling themselves capitalists and voting conservative ...they are really socialists...


    Imagine this.....an irrigator in the district that receives 40 bucks an acre for 5 years sits in a meeting and says he cant afford the water bill...so the government helps them out....meanwhile the arrogant phuck parks his new combines and headers along the highway....in full view....

    While the combines are just a tool to get the job done ....it seems odd to say you cant afford the water bill to grow larger guaranteed crops but can afford a million in new machinery...

    Too be clear...what would 200 bucks an acre in less expenses mean for your farm????? Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:23 7
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Why is there always a percentage of the population who will chase after shady deals? I mean most farmers I know were concerned about the state of our debt and opted not to take any FCC or BDC loans and most passed on the CERB. Why? now when there are liberal trolls lining up at the trough. Nobody has any integrity anymore.

    And yes I include Bill Boyd and his shady GTH buddies.
    It is said that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    However, there was a recent addendum attached to that, or perhaps replaced it:

    "Power attracts the corruptible".

    It has a lot of credence. Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 08:23 8 Those farmers you speak of may not need it but we know god damn well who will be paying for it!! So tell me again who is the hypocrite Reply With Quote

  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:24 9
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Yep and there was a long thread on Agrisilly about how to apply for CEBA! Agrisilly home of the "fiscal conservatives" LMAO

    Farmers lined up at the trough too even though many don't need it? How do you spell "hippo crits"
    Some like Tweety were saying how farmers have it so good and get all these subsidies and should quit whining about how tough it is .... one of the first guys on here to claim his share lol .
    Yes hypocrites are there but your pointing out the wrong ones . Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 08:25 10
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    The per acreage payment works very well for very large and succesful farms who don't need it! Its an untargeted subsidy! Are you not a fiscal conservative?
    Not really....per acre is fair...as in my example the guy that least needs it gets more per acre than the guy that actually does...

    40 bucks an acre would pay all the same bills no matter the size... Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:32 11
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Not really....per acre is fair...as in my example the guy that least needs it gets more per acre than the guy that actually does...

    40 bucks an acre would pay all the same bills no matter the size...
    Chuck has a size issue ... Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:35 12 Time and again the lions share of of different subsidy programs often go to larger farms who often don't need it.

    Target subsidies to small and medium sized farms who struggle to make a living so that we keep more farm families going. Let the big ones survive on their own without subsidies. Subsidizing big farms often speeds up the process of putting small farms out of business and drives up the cost of everything. Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 9, 2020 | 08:47 13 This is why changing governments or I put it a political correction is so important to keep governments from not getting out of hand as far as policies and inside deals. Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 09:01 14
    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    This is why changing governments or I put it a political correction is so important to keep governments from not getting out of hand as far as policies and inside deals.
    I don't think it matters now ...the bureaucrats like Telford need to be booted as well....

    The likes of the arrogant Wernicks have to be shown the door as well...

    But I think there is a culture of entitlement now in politics...

    The MLA , MP or minister cant be held account to their files....they do or say what suits them...

    Example....not that long ago David Marit said the province didn't have the money for agrirecovery with the crop being left out for thousands of farmers....in February his letter said they were not doing any irrigation projects....now he has 4 billion to waste on 200 farmers. Reply With Quote
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  • Aug 9, 2020 | 09:05 15
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Time and again the lions share of of different subsidy programs often go to larger farms who often don't need it.

    Target subsidies to small and medium sized farms who struggle to make a living so that we keep more farm families going. Let the big ones survive on their own without subsidies. Subsidizing big farms often speeds up the process of putting small farms out of business and drives up the cost of everything.
    Efficiently run smaller and medium sized farms generally by far have the best balance sheets and profitability.... if they are struggling it’s their own doing or a run of bad luck .
    Actually same goes for any efficient farm regardless of size .
    Smaller farms that don’t make changes or have not kept up with tech are the ones that need help ?? No Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 09:53 16
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Efficiently run smaller and medium sized farms generally by far have the best balance sheets and profitability.... if they are struggling it’s their own doing or a run of bad luck .
    Actually same goes for any efficient farm regardless of size .
    Smaller farms that don’t make changes or have not kept up with tech are the ones that need help ?? No
    That has been my understanding as well. The profit margin on the small and medium sized farms far exceeds the mega farms on average.

    Not sure where Chuck gets his numbers from? Reply With Quote
    Aug 9, 2020 | 10:11 17
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    That has been my understanding as well. The profit margin on the small and medium sized farms far exceeds the mega farms on average.

    Not sure where Chuck gets his numbers from?
    Probably the same place as his up to 80% farmers support the CWB years ago
    Stuck in the past Reply With Quote

  • Aug 10, 2020 | 06:36 18
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    That has been my understanding as well. The profit margin on the small and medium sized farms far exceeds the mega farms on average.

    Not sure where Chuck gets his numbers from?
    If that was the case don't you think all the small and medium sized farms would be out competing the big ones for land?

    Taxpayers are not interested in subsidizing giant corporate farms.

    One of the best things that can happen to a smaller family farm is to make enough money to stop working off the farm. Then you can invest full time energy into what you love and in the end your farm will prosper and your life will be better. A lot of farms have been paid for with off farm income but the goal is to be independent someday and give up the off farm. Reply With Quote
    Aug 10, 2020 | 06:40 19
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    If that was the case don't you think all the small and medium sized farms would be out competing the big ones for land?

    Taxpayers are not interested in subsidizing giant corporate farms.

    One of the best things that can happen to a smaller family farm is to make enough money to stop working off the farm. Then you can invest full time energy into what you love and in the end your farm will prosper and your life will be better. A lot of farms have been paid for with off farm income but the goal is to be independent someday and give up the off farm.
    Taxpayers love subsidizing large corporations....look at Bombardier, the auto industry, the plant protein industry ...all on government intravenous drips for money forever...

    Government policy has been making farms larger for quite a awhile now ....the conservatives listen to the WCWGA who has policy to consolidate farms.....and the liberals listen to the investors that make farmers peasants....

    Its a no win....for farmers under 5000 acres...FCC solution to a hiccup right now is to tell farmers to sell a junk of land...to a larger farmer that they are backing...its a between the lines conversation...but they are facilitating that process when they can.
    Last edited by bucket; Aug 10, 2020 at 06:43.
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