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Jul 11, 2020 | 06:52 61 Trudeau Morneau are in obvious conflicts of interest when awarding contracts such as this to WE. If they had a stepped away from the decision it would have been marginally better but still leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

I am not sure why WE hired Margaret at 250 K for 28 speeches. That seems excessive when there are many other inspirational Canadians to hear from at a lower fee. But high profile people with a good story come at a high price apparently.

Trudeau seems oblivious and has managed to repeatedly make ethical errors of judgement.

But compared to the massive corruption, obstruction of justice and interference in the legal system that Trump has delivered, Trudeau's offenses are relatively minor in comparison.

Yet we hear hardly a peep from the Trump sheeple on Agriville! What a surprise. Speaking of those who lack ethical and moral values, most of the devout Trump lovers on agriville can criticize Trudeau 24/7 but Trump can do no wrong! They must be Trump Blind! LOL Reply With Quote
Jul 11, 2020 | 07:01 62
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
Trudeau Morneau are in obvious conflicts of interest when awarding contracts such as this to WE. If they had a stepped away from the decision it would have been marginally better but still leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

I am not sure why WE hired Margaret at 250 K for 28 speeches. That seems excessive when there are many other inspirational Canadians to hear from at a lower fee. But high profile people with a good story come at a high price apparently.

Trudeau seems oblivious and has managed to repeatedly make ethical errors of judgement.

But compared to the massive corruption, obstruction of justice and interference in the legal system that Trump has delivered, Trudeau's offenses are relatively minor in comparison.

Yet we hear hardly a peep from the Trump sheeple on Agriville! What a surprise. Speaking of those who lack ethical and moral values, most of the devout Trump lovers on agriville can criticize Trudeau 24/7 but Trump can do no wrong! They must be Trump Blind! LOL
Trump is not our PM .... man you have serious TDS .
Who are Trump lovers on here ???
Probably Jazz that’s it .
There is far more corruption in Ottawa than what you believe . SNC ring a bell 🛎?
Panama Papers ??
And a whole lot more to come .

Seems excessive to pay Margaret that much ??? A person of high profile ? LOL Reply With Quote
Jul 11, 2020 | 07:03 63 You do not have to look to Trump and US to find "Conservative" scandals. The Harper government was plagued by scandals too. Hell Harper was even found in contempt of parliment twice. Then there was the in and out scandal, the robocall scandal, and multiple Senate scandals under Harper's watch. Poliviou, who is being heralded here for his exposing the WE scandal was caught using government personal and funds to make partisan ads. Peter McKay, the leadership candidate will be remembered for his misappropriation of the search and rescue helicopter to get to a fishing lodge.

Go back previously to Mulroney and you get the Airbus scandal.

Scandals plague every party because of poor leadership and no ethics. People in power often abuse that power because of the need to stay in power or simply because they feel entitled.

If you honestly think the WE scandal is THE smoking gun and the average Canadian cares you are naïve. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 07:04 64 The CBC covered the Aga Khan story, The SNC story and the WE story in great detail. So there goes your argument that the the CBC has been bought off by the Liberals.

    And at least Trudeau doesn't call all the media that cover a negative story about him all "fake news" like the Donald does! LOL

    But I wouldn't expect Trump supporters to take off their rose coloured glasses when it comes to Trump! Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 07:10 65
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Trump is not our PM .... man you have serious TDS .
    Who are Trump lovers on here ???
    Probably Jazz that’s it .
    There is far more corruption in Ottawa than what you believe . SNC ring a bell 🛎?
    Panama Papers ??
    And a whole lot more to come .

    Seems excessive to pay Margaret that much ??? A person of high profile ? LOL
    Just pointing out your double standards when it comes to lack of ethical leadership. And if you haven't figured it out, Trump's decisions affect Canada, so yes we can comment on his failings and stupidity.

    DML's list of Conservative corruption should make you pause. But again many of you are blind if it is a Conservative or Republican offense! LOL Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 07:15 66
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Probably Jazz that’s it .
    Trump lover? That's a stretch. LOL

    I support 2 things about trump, his economic commitment to his own country and his consistent attack to end globalism. Globalism is the biggest mistake in the history of the world. It took first world GDP with high standards and quality and transferred and diluted it down to countries with much lower standards of everything. Fixing that will be the key to erasing the perceived inequality many feel.

    Of course he is a flawed person, but I don't want the pope as my leader. I don't want idiotic platitudes. I want a fighter for my country, all parts of it. Warts and all.

    Those are polar opposites compared to Trudeau. Trudeau had a chance to do that. He had broad support in his first term, all he had to do was cultivate that. But nope, he fell back to the Ottawa Montreal Toronto triangle, extorted the rest of the country and went back on to his globalist crusade just like his dad did.

    I would vote for chretien or martin if they were on the ballet. Reply With Quote

  • Jul 11, 2020 | 07:23 67
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    If you honestly think the WE scandal is THE smoking gun and the average Canadian cares you are naïve.
    Cash has been handed to politicians of every stripe. I don't expect that to stop with any govt. Nobody is that naïve. And we have that option to vote our displeasure every few yrs.

    But Maggie Trudeau is unelected, so is Sasha. So is Sophie.

    And burying a govt funded and directed indoctrination vote buying scheme into a borderline cult masking as a charity should offend any Canadian of even average intelligence. Maybe that's the real problem.
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 07:46 68
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Just pointing out your double standards when it comes to lack of ethical leadership. And if you haven't figured it out, Trump's decisions affect Canada, so yes we can comment on his failings and stupidity.

    DML's list of Conservative corruption should make you pause. But again many of you are blind if it is a Conservative or Republican offense! LOL
    They all can be pigs at the trough ... never ever said otherwise . Bill Boyd is a perfect example You and DML “ass”ume way too much about a lot of things on here .
    This current Liberal government is killing this country financially for decades to come and when that gets pointed out it’s instant “orange man bad “ lol Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 08:24 69
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Cash has been handed to politicians of every stripe. I don't expect that to stop with any govt. Nobody is that naïve. And we have that option to vote our displeasure every few yrs.

    But Maggie Trudeau is unelected, so is Sasha. So is Sophie.
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    Jazz, what does being elected have to do with speaker fees? Are you suggesting the only people who should be paid speakers are elected? Hell, most elected people are the last people I want to hear from; I have heard their words already. And around the world, unelected family members are commanding speaker fees much greater that M Trudeau got. Michele Obama speaker fees run $200,000 per event. It is rumored Prince Harry and Megan are asking $1,000,000 per event. Melania Trump is already being paid as a speaker (no conflict there I guess) and if you want Melania Trump to speak, even though she has never been elected, you better have a big bank account. None of these were elected.
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    Jul 11, 2020 | 08:30 70
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Jazz, what does being elected have to do with speaker fees? Are you suggesting the only people who should be paid speakers are elected? Hell, most elected people are the last people I want to hear from; I have heard their words already. And around the world, unelected family members are commanding speaker fees much greater that M Trudeau got. Michele Obama speaker fees run $200,000 per event. It is rumored Prince Harry and Megan are asking $1,000,000 per event. None were elected. You want Melania Trump to speak, even though she has never been elected, you better have a big bank account.
    Well none of those people have a brother or a son or a relative who is the leader of the country and can give money away without scrutiny. That's the conflict. Its not speaker fees or who is even speaking, its the relationship to who is paying those fees. Backdoor govt funds that didn't even get a parliamentary vote.

    If Maggie wants to sell tickets to speak, she should go for it. Anybody should. But when the fed are bankrolling your org to the tune of 900M, leave your family out of it. That's a clear cut conflict. Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 08:34 71
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Well none of those people have a brother or a son or a relative who is the leader of the country and can give money away without scrutiny. That's the conflict. Its not speaker fees or who is even speaking, its the relationship to who is paying those fees. Backdoor govt funds that didn't even get a parliamentary vote.

    If Maggie wants to sell tickets to speak, she should go for it. Anybody should. But when the fed are bankrolling your org to the tune of 900M, leave your family out of it. That's a clear cut conflict.
    Melania Trump has a husband that is the leader of a country! And she has a charity! And she is being paid speaker fees! Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 08:38 72
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Melania Trump has a husband that is the leader of a country! And she has a charity! And she is being paid speaker fees!
    Is the US federal govt bankrolling that charity directly like Justin was? They have a democrat led congress that greenlights all expenditures. We don't. That's the difference. If approved by congress, all constituents have a member in that chamber they can harass.

    Who can I call about my objection to this funding of WE? Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 08:45 73
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Is the US federal govt bankrolling that charity directly like Justin was? They have a democrat led congress that greenlights all expenditures. We don't. That's the difference. If approved by congress, all constituents have a member in that chamber they can harass.

    Who can I call about my objection to this funding of WE?
    Lol. Congress Approved funds for pentagon defence spending which trump br executive order is using on his own to pay for his border wall. You have a problem with spending you have mp and senator to complaint too in canada Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 08:53 74 Trump ..... Trudeau, two wrongs don’t make a right .
    These political banterings need there own thread and nee to get the F off this commodify marketing Thread.
    It ruining this site , and we are all to blame . Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 09:04 75
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    Lots of Liberal “WE” corruption but this will now have to be revised to show Trudeau’s favourite minister Joly and also Climate Barbie.
    McKenna is also double dipping and now has billions unaccounted for in infrastructure projects.

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    Jul 11, 2020 | 09:20 76
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Trump ..... Trudeau, two wrongs don’t make a right .
    These political banterings need there own thread and nee to get the F off this commodify marketing Thread.
    It ruining this site , and we are all to blame .
    And I'm also guilty as charged. Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 09:45 77 It is responding to the fake leftist trolls that gets things messed up. Sure, we can have different opinions and can respect that. BUT. When the “opinions” are to try to get a rise out of others, to incite conflict, and become personal attacks, yeah it gets old. We need to do better to not feed the trolls. Because I don’t think there is even a chance that they are for real. No one could be this corrupt and be defended, right?

    I have no problem with political talk. I have little time for fake left wingers defending corruption in CANADA by our current groping, lying, stealing, cheating, silver spoon, grossly unqualified mistake of a prime minister. If these troll people actually farm, they represent probably 0.000267% of the farming population ideology, yet they wreck these forums by their leftist bull. Which i don’t believe they actually even believe. I am getting to think we all need to take selfies of ourselves Performing a task on our farm. To prove we farm. This is a farm discussion site, no? Why would we allow Gerald butts on here?

    It is those people who defend this current issue of gross corruption that I have serious problems with. Go on the cbc news website, and you will see chuckites defending Trudeau at all costs. Blaming Harper.

    I just don’t get it.

    Finally, if any of you actually think there will be a government again which has a clue about farming and farmers hopes and dreams, don’t hold your breath. That a government will step up with billions for ag? It ain’t gunna happen. 98 per cent of Canadians don’t hardly know what a farm looks like, let alone how we operate. So set aside those hopes and dreams, get with the program, we are on our own. Adapt, change, or quit. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 10:07 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    It is responding to the fake leftist trolls that gets things messed up. Sure, we can have different opinions and can respect that. BUT. When the “opinions” are to try to get a rise out of others, to incite conflict, and become personal attacks, yeah it gets old. We need to do better to not feed the trolls. Because I don’t think there is even a chance that they are for real. No one could be this corrupt and be defended, right?

    I have no problem with political talk. I have little time for fake left wingers defending corruption in CANADA by our current groping, lying, stealing, cheating, silver spoon, grossly unqualified mistake of a prime minister. If these troll people actually farm, they represent probably 0.000267% of the farming population ideology, yet they wreck these forums by their leftist bull. Which i don’t believe they actually even believe. I am getting to think we all need to take selfies of ourselves Performing a task on our farm. To prove we farm. This is a farm discussion site, no? Why would we allow Gerald butts on here?

    It is those people who defend this current issue of gross corruption that I have serious problems with. Go on the cbc news website, and you will see chuckites defending Trudeau at all costs. Blaming Harper.

    I just don’t get it.

    Finally, if any of you actually think there will be a government again which has a clue about farming and farmers hopes and dreams, don’t hold your breath. That a government will step up with billions for ag? It ain’t gunna happen. 98 per cent of Canadians don’t hardly know what a farm looks like, let alone how we operate. So set aside those hopes and dreams, get with the program, we are on our own. Adapt, change, or quit.
    You can fk off trying to proclaim your brilliance you *** quit couldn’t hack it started crying when rhe sheep shit was in trouble. It will come around to you sooner or later because of the lack of farm support direct or indirect. You have no clue.
    If you wan to go at it I have time today you pompass ass. You can’t handle that your conservatives sask party have fkd farmers as much or more than liberals but your one tracked mind lack of thinking about the big picture clouds your opinion on anything.
    Just some advice you are known on here you think it’s good to run down other farmers is gonna be good for your business? You might just puss someone off and they’ll for the fun of it out you in the street in a month. Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 10:09 79 The gth, irrigation, bypass land scam were and are bigger scams than any of rhe we shit. Sheepshit Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 10:25 80 Looks like somebody might need to renew a prescription or two.....holy man Bigstory. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 10:31 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    Looks like somebody might need to renew a prescription or two.....holy man Bigstory.
    Yes he sure does!!! You can join him. Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 10:47 82

    I think you read sheepwheat all wrong .
    But I will stay outa this one .
    Play nice fellas lol Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 11:14 83 Well now, that was something else for sure. I should have known my friend big wheel, who for some reason has something personal with me, may show up. Lol.

    Yup furrow, he read me wrong. Again. Big wheel, you have my deepest sympathy, you seem to have something in it for me for some reason?

    I do need to know. You said you’re free today? For what? Like a fist fight, or a shouting match?

    I just don’t get you. At all.

    But I do hope your ok, and I wish you a great day. It’s a Beauty of a day! Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 11:22 84
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    The CBC covered the Aga Khan story, The SNC story and the WE story in great detail. So there goes your argument that the the CBC has been bought off by the Liberals.

    And at least Trudeau doesn't call all the media that cover a negative story about him all "fake news" like the Donald does! LOL

    But I wouldn't expect Trump supporters to take off their rose coloured glasses when it comes to Trump!


    Picture of Scheer without a mask on is a bigger deal than snc lavalin and We combined. Chuky you Shure have your head shoved up your ass. Reply With Quote
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  • helmsdale's Avatar Jul 11, 2020 | 11:37 85
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    If you honestly think the WE scandal is THE smoking gun and the average Canadian cares you are naïve.
    ZERO argument from me on this one!

    It'll roll around in the minds of the chattering class, and at best it'll warrant a brief WTF by the average folk, and then the general voting public will be right back to thinking he's better than any of the other alternatives. Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 11:38 86 Me thinks political hacktivists are everywhere.
    I Will stick to actual farm stuff and marketing as much as possible.
    Yes it is a great day , have a good weekend to all real farmers and lurkers out there lol . Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 11:47 87 Sheepwheat, I think Bigwheel might be your neighbor.....lmfao.

    The story of David and Goliath, and we all know how that ended.

    Let's get back to slamming politicians, more fun.

    I really don't think Scheer was a lame duck. He was expected to operate in a system that might not have been conducive to his morals, values and beleifs. It will eat you up. Only pompous arrogant assholes like the current PM think their immune and entitled to anything their bleeding heart desires, and he almost seems too stupid to distance himself or cover his tracks from the scene of the "crime". Yet that pompous asshole can walk through a torrential rain storm and not get wet. He needs a lesson in humility.

    Speaking of rain, got another welcome shot last night, not too much and not too little. About half an inch over a couple of days. Things are looking ok here in comparison to what it was. Hoping for a decent average crop now. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 11, 2020 | 11:52 88 I start and complete lots of potential posts here but after reading I don’t post as I find I don’t think I make sense or it doesn’t add anything to proper discourse. Sometimes it would be good if others would do the same. Reply With Quote

  • Jul 11, 2020 | 12:02 89
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    LMAO Thank you for proving the points the big wheel made.

    Unsubstantiated statements like LEP made like this is the reason the current Conservative party of Canada will remain a divided rump party floundering for leadership. When self proclaimed "Conservatives" cannot even accept anyone as a conservative unless they perfectly fit their personal beliefs of what a conservative is there is no way it will ever become a national voice of conservatives or of Canada. Hell, Conservatives cannot even unite to define what those principles are. The current Conservative platform says man made climate change is a problem and supports actions against it. If you disagree are you not a Conservative? Conservative economic principles call for open markets and free trade which I agree with. Yet many self proclaimed Conservatives on this forum call for nationalism, tariffs and stopping trade with China. Who is the real conservative? And I won't even open the can of worms of the division within the party caused by social policy Oh Conservatives will win the government again some day, but infighting and disunity will guarantee it will not be long lasting.
    Well one thing guaranteed, the conservatives will be in long long long before the NDP’s lol
    How long they last who knows .
    But I kinda remember the last time the liberals crashed .... it was epic lol Reply With Quote
    Jul 11, 2020 | 12:29 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    I start and complete lots of potential posts here but after reading I don’t post as I find I don’t think I make sense or it doesn’t add anything to proper discourse. Sometimes it would be good if others would do the same.
    I do the same, I probably reconsider and don't post it almost as often as I do. Which is a scary thought thought when one considers some of the tripe I post in response to Chuck's baiting that does get through my filter.
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