How do people believe in.....?????

[bucket]

A 10 year , a 20 year , or even a 50 year forecast when a 3 day or weekly forecast isn't accurate enough to make farming decisions ?

I don't want a debate about climate change ....just an explanation of how people buy into it.

Monday it was a 70 percent change of 10-15 mm for this coming Saturday ...today its a chance of 30 percent of 10-15mm..

Last night it was down to 5mm which isn't going to help anyway..

Then they add a chance for next Monday....

Keep dangling the carrot I guess.

But when important decisions like spraying or top dressing have to be made ...it sure would be nice to have short term accurate forecasts...And if that isn't possible how is a 50 year forecast...


The current forecast means there will be another flush of weeds...does a guy wait it out and get a better kill? Or do a two shot weed strategy????






Please no cut and paste long articles of nonsense....

[Herc]

[Sheepwheat]

Our education system does not encourage people to think on their own, to question supposed experts and stats.

The in my experience, more “educated” you are, the more indoctrinated you are. There is almost zero critical thinking these days.

All you need to do is look at articles about evolution, articles about climate change, articles about anything that is supposedly science. If you question it, you are a Neanderthal.

I blame our pathetic education system. People do not know how to think on their own, they only know that there are ‘experts’ and those ‘experts’ are smarter and so they should never be questioned. What they say is factual. No matter what.

What a dangerous society we now live in because of this. What a goofy society.

[chuckChuck]

Still confused about weather vs climate?

When looking at climate change climate scientists look at all the data from previous decades and can see a trend based on what actually happened. Of course climate change deniers don't believe the data and think the scientists are all corrupt etc etc. Their predictive models are based on all the data collected and a range of scenarios that might play out. But the past data does not lie.

The Glaciers in the Rockies and around the world are still melting and shrinking. You can visit them and see for yourself the millions of tonnes of lost ice. But some of the flat earthers could be standing at the base of the Colombia ice field looking at the signs that show the decadal decline of the glaciers and still believe the earth is getting colder too! LOL


"That the icefield is shrinking is not news. Signs today at the Columbia Icefield state that since 1843,the toe of the Athabasca Glacier has retreated 1.5 kilometres (10m per year on average). Like someunfortunate men’s hairlines, glaciers recede naturally.What is news is just how much ice and snow, on both the Athabasca glacier and the Columbia Icefield,is now gone.According to Sandford, comparative studies of the thickness of the Athabasca Glacier indicate that it is now some 60 per cent smaller in volume than it was a century and a half ago. Several years ago, the consensus in the glaciologist community was the glacier was only 50 per cent smaller. Other glaciologists point out the Athabasca has been reduced to a size not seen in 4,000 to 8,000 years.“ We can’t just consider the glacial length, although that is certainly decreasing, but the depth of the glacier is also becoming increasingly diminished,” said Sandford. “It’s really a massive change.”


http://www.usask.ca/ip3/download/Rocky%20Mountain%20Outlook%204%20Feb%202010%20-%20Columbia%20Icefield%20shrinking%20fast.pdf http://www.usask.ca/ip3/download/Rocky%20Mountain%20Outlook%204%20Feb%202010%20-%20Columbia%20Icefield%20shrinking%20fast.pdf

Declining water supplies from the receding glaciers for irrigation will affect farmers who irrigate. There you go an agricultural perspective!

[furrowtickler]

The more they change the forecast the more clicks they get .......
especially weather network

[furrowtickler]

Don’t piss around with W/N or EC for anything more than a day or two ....
learn how to use this ...
https://www.saskwind.ca/wind-atlas-sk

Was the only one to call that big rain here 8 days before it hit
I find it very accurate for wind and rain

[bucket]

Still confused about weather vs climate?

When looking at climate change climate scientists look at all the data from previous decades and can see a trend based on what actually happened. Of course climate change deniers don't believe the data and think the scientists are all corrupt etc etc. Their predictive models are based on all the data collected and a range of scenarios that might play out. But the past data does not lie.

The Glaciers in the Rockies and around the world are still melting and shrinking. You can visit them and see for yourself the millions of tonnes of lost ice. But some of the flat earthers could be standing at the base of the Colombia ice field looking at the signs that show the decadal decline of the glaciers and still believe the earth is getting colder too! LOL


"That the icefield is shrinking is not news. Signs today at the Columbia Icefield state that since 1843,the toe of the Athabasca Glacier has retreated 1.5 kilometres (10m per year on average). Like someunfortunate men’s hairlines, glaciers recede naturally.What is news is just how much ice and snow, on both the Athabasca glacier and the Columbia Icefield,is now gone.According to Sandford, comparative studies of the thickness of the Athabasca Glacier indicate that it is now some 60 per cent smaller in volume than it was a century and a half ago. Several years ago, the consensus in the glaciologist community was the glacier was only 50 per cent smaller. Other glaciologists point out the Athabasca has been reduced to a size not seen in 4,000 to 8,000 years.“ We can’t just consider the glacial length, although that is certainly decreasing, but the depth of the glacier is also becoming increasingly diminished,” said Sandford. “It’s really a massive change.”


http://www.usask.ca/ip3/download/Rocky%20Mountain%20Outlook%204%20Feb%202010%20-%20Columbia%20Icefield%20shrinking%20fast.pdf http://www.usask.ca/ip3/download/Rocky%20Mountain%20Outlook%204%20Feb%202010%20-%20Columbia%20Icefield%20shrinking%20fast.pdf

Declining water supplies from the receding glaciers for irrigation will affect farmers who irrigate. There you go an agricultural perspective!

You dryland guys should be outraged.....

Here we are trying to grow a bumper crop on minimal rainfall while irrigators in Saskatchewan who are guaranteed a crop ( less hail ) are being subsidized 40 bucks an acre for 5 years...

The M1 canal just got more funding as well yesterday on top of that 40 bucks....

The phucking potato farmers in Alberta are using their production for cattle feed right now....and will receive a payment for doing so....while dryland barley farmers are borrowing money...

Irrigation is becoming a big subsidizing scam....

[furrowtickler]

Still confused about weather vs climate?

When looking at climate change climate scientists look at all the data from previous decades and can see a trend based on what actually happened. Of course climate change deniers don't believe the data and think the scientists are all corrupt etc etc. Their predictive models are based on all the data collected and a range of scenarios that might play out. But the past data does not lie.

The Glaciers in the Rockies and around the world are still melting and shrinking. You can visit them and see for yourself the millions of tonnes of lost ice. But some of the flat earthers could be standing at the base of the Colombia ice field looking at the signs that show the decadal decline of the glaciers and still believe the earth is getting colder too! LOL


"That the icefield is shrinking is not news. Signs today at the Columbia Icefield state that since 1843,the toe of the Athabasca Glacier has retreated 1.5 kilometres (10m per year on average). Like someunfortunate men’s hairlines, glaciers recede naturally.What is news is just how much ice and snow, on both the Athabasca glacier and the Columbia Icefield,is now gone.According to Sandford, comparative studies of the thickness of the Athabasca Glacier indicate that it is now some 60 per cent smaller in volume than it was a century and a half ago. Several years ago, the consensus in the glaciologist community was the glacier was only 50 per cent smaller. Other glaciologists point out the Athabasca has been reduced to a size not seen in 4,000 to 8,000 years.“ We can’t just consider the glacial length, although that is certainly decreasing, but the depth of the glacier is also becoming increasingly diminished,” said Sandford. “It’s really a massive change.”


http://www.usask.ca/ip3/download/Rocky%20Mountain%20Outlook%204%20Feb%202010%20-%20Columbia%20Icefield%20shrinking%20fast.pdf http://www.usask.ca/ip3/download/Rocky%20Mountain%20Outlook%204%20Feb%202010%20-%20Columbia%20Icefield%20shrinking%20fast.pdf

Declining water supplies from the receding glaciers for irrigation will affect farmers who irrigate. There you go an agricultural perspective!

Yup been melting since last ice age .... there’s a shocker eh ?

[flea beetle]

Other glaciologists point out the Athabasca has been reduced to a size not seen in 4,000 to 8,000 years.“

Wait. You mean to tell me that the glacier has been this size before? And at a time when human activity for sure wouldn’t have affected it? Fascinating you of all people would admit that.

[bucket]

Wait. You mean to tell me that the glacier has been this size before? And at a time when human activity for sure wouldn’t have affected it? Fascinating you of all people would admit that.

Fact checking their own logic like this .....isn't allowed....you ought to know better...

Good catch .....

[chuckChuck]

Can't wait for A5 to tell us we are in for an imminent ice age! Don't stand in front of the Colombia ice fields because you will be covered in ice in no time at all because it has been colder than normal in central Alberta!

[bucket]

Chuck chuck

When the prairies have orange groves ....I might start to believe in climate change....but chances are my yet unborn great great grandchildren will be on the earth....

[Sheepwheat]

If an ‘expert’ were to tell chuck, or those like him, that they needed to quickly stand on one foot, eat a floret of broccoli, and sing Kamba ya, while facing the northwest, in order to save the planet from this awful warming we are all suffering under, they would do it in a heartbeat.

Why? No critical thinking skills, no questioning of authority. No healthy skepticism.

Sadly, the world at least the western world is overwhelmingly in the same compliance at all costs boat. Never has a vast swath of society been so ripe for the picking, so set up to take amazing advantage of...

[flea beetle]

Can't wait for A5 to tell us we are in for an imminent ice age! Don't stand in front of the Colombia ice fields because you will be covered in ice in no time at all because it has been colder than normal in central Alberta!

Nobody said anything about an iceage. But good job trying to change the subject from your blunder.

[Sheepwheat]

Healthy critical thinking is far more a sign of actual intelligence than accepting as fact anything you hear.