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Apr 23, 2020 | 22:39 1 I'm a Jordan Peterson fan. His lectures provide an incomparable insight into how our once-democratic, free enterprise system got to where we are today. But before I ever heard of JBP, I read Solzhenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago", a chilling, numbing account of the most vile potential of humanity.

Marxism has a bad reputation, rooted on the historical fact that the Soviet Union, Communist China, Pol Pot and others slaughtered up to 100,000,000 of their own countrymen to bring their reluctant populations under totalitarian dictatorship.

No one in the free world knows how many more have since died in repressed uprisings, such as Tienanmen Square in 1989, North Korea, and others.

And how many more have simply disappeared, such as is reportedly happening in Hong Kong?

Historical Revolutionary Marxism is quietly viewed by far too many as unpleasantly messy - however, not for its philosophy, but just its gory and socially repugnant (by a Christianized western standard) means.

But despite its ugly manifestation everywhere it has been enforced, Marxism is still viewed by many as an admirable system of socioeconomic administration.

With its irrefutable history of bloody and insatiable violence, why is there still a large body of intellectuals who would like to see it imposed on our Western civilization? And why is the United Nations essentially controlled by Marxist-Leninist ideologues and brutes?

The problem can be traced back to the too-early end of WWll. When the Allies liberated Europe from the Nazis, they thought the war was won.

They were wrong. It was merely postponed until their Russian "ally" could regroup and defeat the democratic West as well.

Instead of going home, the British, Canadians and Americans should have proceeded to Moscow to take down the Kremlin. They could likely have done it. Japan was out of the action.

However, even then existed a contingent of westerners who believed in the false hope of Marxism. These silent subversives never stopped plotting how to make their toxic dream a global reality.

They worked on their plan and found a useful instrument in the newly-founded League of Nations. Started with good enough intentions, this fledgling organization was soon corrupted into a very convenient means of propagating the Marxist agenda.

According to my very incomplete reading it took only about 30 years after the 2nd great war to begin to see documentation of Marxist principles in UN objectives and writings. While I stand to be further instructed, my earliest finding of Communist ideology enshrinement is the Habitat 1 document, penned in Vancouver, BC, in 1976.

Among its many repugnant statements outlining its goals for the world is the claim that it is imperative that all property must come under public control. And further, that private ownership leads to disparities and unearned profits.

Thus, these gains and profits must be taxed or taken and redistributed to the "community". Sound familiar?

Habitat 2 (1996, Istanbul) and 3 (2016, Quito, Ecuador) go further than the 1st and make recommendations as to how achieve these Marxist goals - never so named in the documents, of course, for the reasons stated above.

You will recognize some of the language in these documents if you look through the official plans for your area in your local municipal office, because these plans take their direction from the UN Habitat documents, refined through the UN Agenda 21 and 2030: Agenda for Sustainable Development. Is there any recent policy or program that doesn't include the word "sustainable?

And it is your local municipal council that mostly unknowingly votes these Marxist changes into reality on your private property. Almost every action they undertake involves taking more control, control, control, of your private property. And they have no trouble hiring more and more enforcers to achieve that control.

if you ask a councillor if he or she has ever heard of the UN Agendas the vast majority of them will say "No". These people are what Marx termed "useful idiots". I would like to be kinder.

The effect is that without our knowledge, Marxism has been inserted into our local affairs and private lives by the subversion of our democratic system, a trick purposefully employed by the masterminds who are gleefully and very successfully pulling the strings from far away, far beyond the suspicions of those they wish to enslave into a totalitarian,communist hellhole. For their own benefit.

And this silent subversion hit greased skids when the first crop of Marxist-indoctrinated, university grads entered the workforce. When the second wave exited their toxic halls fully indoctrinated in class warfare cloaked as identity politics, it was curtains for the once great and free West. Without a single shot fired in anger.

Of course, they needed a cause under which they can dupe the world into a common allegiance against an "enemy". It wasn't going to be very effective to use the old bogeyman of financial inequality - the Marxist overlords effectively used that ploy in the Soviet Union and China. Indeed, it would be hard to fool the global community again with visions of equal wealth for all, especially when the world was rapidly becoming a far better place for many than it had ever been in almost any time in history.

So, what other element could be harnessed with hidden dictatorial scheme, an element common to the whole world?

Climate! There is no one in the world unaffected by climate, and if it could be morphed into perceptions of an imminent threat, then perhaps the world's population could be brought into compliant subjection by implementing measures that would stifle personal choices and volition from individuals, So what if it would destroy their successful systems and lifestyles, one-world-domination was the Plan.

Indeed, it would be necessary to destroy everything that gave an individual the ability to live independently. Lenin and Stalin both knew that and killed off 10-20 million kulaks to bring about their totalitarian rule - murdered them in cold blood, starved them or shipped them to a near-certain death in slave camps or gulags in Siberia.

(Ironically, Lenin and Stalin could be called very successful, if measured by their own diabolical objectives. And as the conclusion will demonstrate the status of our present national leader.)

But what happens when the population starts to see through the chosen means of subjugation - the climate hoax - and begins to reject and discard the sacred mantras for the claptrap that they are? Even going so far as repudiating the evangelical efforts of a young, mentally disturbed, modern-day Joan of Arc?

Plan B was ready just in time. It was released on the Western world as a Christmas present late in 2019.

The enemy was invisible, but its effect was material. It caused a laughably small number of deaths but took a devastating toll on the entire world economy.

It gave opportunistic, tyrannical leaders the perfect screen for imposing all the measures necessary for instantaneously turning a free country into a slave state. And most wonderful of all was that the people submitted willingly - these Marxist fiends managed to do it with minimal force.

Overnight, people everywhere began to suspiciously eye their closest neighbors and friends - not to mention all strangers - as a potential, existential threat. Distancing became more than physical for most.

Human touch became a threat, not a comfort, Little children were confused by the sudden distancing of those who once snuggled them at family birthday parties and other celebrations - now made socially unacceptable.

Martial law was imposed with the complete cooperation of almost everyone - how could anyone organize resistance if meeting could not exceed a group of 5? Protestors were publicly shamed and taken away in handcuffs by police who said, 'We're only doing our job".

And resistors were turned in by their neighbors through snitch lines conveniently provided by the government, Big Brother.

Lenin would be incredulous to see that within one or two generations, an entire army of indoctrinated youth could be marshaled to protest and destroy the foundations of Western democracy and economic achievement.

Who would have thought that privately owned businesses could be brought to ruin in mere weeks? It took the Soviet Union a decade or more to reach that amazing goal with brutal force!

Who would have believed that the majority of the population could be conditioned to settle for a pitiful universal basic income within only months of releasing the invisible enemy?

Who would have believed that people would willingly queue to receive a shot which was touted as the fix for the invisible enemy? Only to discover that the shot was something designed to inoculate them from independent thinking and action? Because without it, no one was allowed to conduct business or join in groups.

Who would have believed that an economic war could be waged and won on wealthy provinces and countries by enlisting misguided and evilly-programmed students of failed philosophies, people whose highest ambition was the destruction of every good thing that provided them with - LIFE!

Who would have believed that the anti-liberty people would have a convenient massacre that would enable a government to disarm the people with the support of the majority of the population?

Welcome to Canada, 2020. Under Justin Trudeau, the wannabe tyrant who once claimed an affinity for the Chinese dictatorship because it allowed a government to accomplish big goals in a very short time.

So, will you receive the "vaccine" when it is made available?

Will you have a choice?

This scenario has all been predicted many years ago.

There may well be no going back to what we once knew as normal. Unless enough people stand up and say, "Not today, Satan".

JES.
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  • Apr 24, 2020 | 07:31 2 What might you all add or criticize?

    This piece is merely an outline, a small beginning.

    And I hope it's all wrong in the end, but the evidence supports the basics.

    Would have been nicer to just sleep last night. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 24, 2020 | 08:15 3 He belongs to the same paranoid group that talk about the Deep State. Fear and hate are among the most powerful emotions used by extremist leaders throughout history. You can see that in any type of government. Right now Trump is using those emotions to try to gain re-election. Putin has used them in Russia to create a virtual dictatorship. China uses fear to control it's population. The current crisis creates a wealth of fear that could be used to usurp freedoms. We must call out measures which cannot be justified. Only through proper debate can we insure the rights of individuals. Reply With Quote
    Apr 24, 2020 | 08:20 4
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    He belongs to the same paranoid group that talk about the Deep State. Fear and hate are among the most powerful emotions used by extremist leaders throughout history. You can see that in any type of government. Right now Trump is using those emotions to try to gain re-election. Putin has used them in Russia to create a virtual dictatorship. China uses fear to control it's population. The current crisis creates a wealth of fear that could be used to usurp freedoms. We must call out measures which cannot be justified. Only through proper debate can we insure the rights of individuals.
    Hi aggie! Thanks for your contribution with its usual value!

    It would be helpful if you would point out anything non-factual.

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  • Apr 24, 2020 | 08:26 5
    Quote Originally Posted by burnt View Post
    Hi aggie! Thanks for your contribution with its usual value!

    It would be helpful if you would point out anything non-factual.

    Waiting -
    You mean that COVID-19 is a hoax to take over the world!! Reply With Quote
    Apr 24, 2020 | 08:36 6
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    You mean that COVID-19 is a hoax to take over the world!!
    If you consider that Covid is a hoax of any kind, you are sadly ill.

    Aggie, do you understand the term "useful idiots", the creation of which is attributed to Lenin?

    Again, please point out anything not factual. That's why I put it up. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 24, 2020 | 08:42 7
    Quote Originally Posted by burnt View Post
    If you consider that Covid is a hoax of any kind, you are sadly ill.

    Aggie, do you understand the term "useful idiots", the creation of which is attributed to Lenin?

    Again, please point out anything not factual. That's why I put it up.
    He certainly is not very useful , when he postulates a theory that COVID-19 is being used to control everyone. That is really deep state. Where is his proof? Reply With Quote
    Apr 24, 2020 | 08:50 8
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    He certainly is not very useful , when he postulates a theory that COVID-19 is being used to control everyone. That is really deep state. Where is his proof?
    Would have saved a lot of time had you started by answering the first question first.

    Well, you actually answered it demonstratively, much more effectively than you could have verbally. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 24, 2020 | 09:52 9
    Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
    He belongs to the same paranoid group that talk about the Deep State. Fear and hate are among the most powerful emotions used by extremist leaders throughout history. You can see that in any type of government. Right now Trump is using those emotions to try to gain re-election. Putin has used them in Russia to create a virtual dictatorship. China uses fear to control it's population. The current crisis creates a wealth of fear that could be used to usurp freedoms. We must call out measures which cannot be justified. Only through proper debate can we insure the rights of individuals.



    Didn't Treudo just try grabbing absolut power for a two year period and doesn't want to open parliament for proper debate? Reply With Quote

  • Apr 24, 2020 | 10:28 10 Agree with Burnt, every day Trudeau exercising drastic powers, no parliamentary debate. Reply With Quote

  • Apr 24, 2020 | 13:32 11 It ain’t far off according to a lot of Eastern European business owners we have in our community. They are smart hard working people. A conversation I had with one of them went in this direction and his words were that we are the sheep and the media is the Shepard. Most people here have had it good for a long time and never really questioned much of what the government did. Now most people are to stupid, uneducated or are just too busy in there everyday lives to pay attention to what may effect them now and down the road. By then it will be to late to turn the clock back. This is how it starts and the government slowly takes more and more. He mentioned for example how cell phones aren’t only for us but for the powers that be to listen and locate us. This Covid bullshit is just another way for them to push a little and see how we react. Then maybe push a little more and see how react. Then he said eventually u have no say in anything even elections are a joke. Major corruption(not that don’t exist already)and anytime u speak up against the powers that be u end up like the people that go missing in China or Russia. After that I was like Hoy Shit either these people are paranoid out there wackos or they have seen some of this. From where they came from it leads me to believe some of its bang on. This crazy debt we have going on is leading us somewhere that’s gonna lead to chaos and I can’t for see the government being able to fix it. Maybe personal lockdowns on our society are their plan. ****oo clock!! Reply With Quote

  • Oct 17, 2020 | 17:16 12 I can't believe that this thread has been allowed to wither. Burnt has offered what is the most coherent analysis of the processes and powers that have spawned the current situation that I have read. Wake up people!
    If some doubt the power of the indoctrination programs please witness the white privilege movement. They are argueing that members of the dominant race on our continent owe reparations to all those of a different color. BLM and Antifa are thus allowed to riot, loot, and murder at will because their grievances are justified. It will be interesting to see if the US elects a president who thinks that white babies are born owing a debt because of their white privilege. If this sounds racist that is because it is thanks to BLM and Antifa. Reply With Quote
    Oct 17, 2020 | 17:29 13 Woooohooooo Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 04:20 14 First off , you wanted the allies to
    Go attack Russia after the second world
    War.
    Russia basically defeated the Germans
    Almost by themselves, with losses of over
    20 million people, far higher the all the west
    Put together. Plus they never did get the help
    They were promised by churchill and the US for holding
    The germans at bay while the west got ready.
    You are a nice guy. Sounds like something a Trump
    Would do.
    Yes Communisn is flawed. But attacking vaccines
    As communist. We have had polio and other Vaccines
    And others for a long time , did they turn you into a communist?
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    Oct 18, 2020 | 08:06 15 "There may well be no going back to what we once knew as normal. Unless enough people stand up and say, "Not today, Satan"."

    Satan is among us? Huh?

    Satan is usually portrayed as red or organge in color with some things protruding from his head and a diabolical face!

    The "man" who fits this description most closely is the POTUS! LMAO

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    Oct 18, 2020 | 08:29 16 Burnt we have found Satan! Prepare for the "greatest" battle in the universe!
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    Oct 18, 2020 | 08:55 17 Be sure to get your influenza vaccine (flu shot) this year. You may also want to consider Pneumococcal polysaccharide (PNEUMO-P) vaccine.

    Except the tough guys, you'll be ok without them. Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 09:08 18
    Quote Originally Posted by tweety View Post
    Be sure to get your influenza vaccine (flu shot) this year. You may also want to consider Pneumococcal polysaccharide (PNEUMO-P) vaccine.

    Except the tough guys, you'll be ok without them.
    Never had either, and almost never get sick. What is your point about tough guys? It is a personal choice. Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 18, 2020 | 10:54 19 Here is a good article on all the dictators right and left wanting to use the covid crisis to take more control. Some are supported by the good ole USA! And Trump publicly admired his dictator buddies Putin and Kin Jong Un. What a guy!

    Dictators are using the coronavirus to strengthen their grip on power

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...a6d_story.html

    "Indeed, from the Philippines to Hungary, autocratic leaders in many nations are using the coronavirus to enhance their powers — to put in place new rules that will be hard to overturn even if the coronavirus is defeated. Many of the new powers have no clear end date. The pandemic will have entrenched these strongmen indefinitely.

    Rodrigo Duterte, the brash, illiberal president of the Philippines, has waged a brutal drug war propelled by perhaps tens of thousands of extrajudicial killings. He also has battled the media and opposition politicians. Last month, he got the legislature, controlled by his loyalists, to grant him broad emergency powers to confront the coronavirus. Some are reasonable, like the ability to order public transport to serve health-care workers. But rights activists believe that Duterte will use his emergency powers to punish opponents and get more control of state funds. The legislature also made it a crime to spread “false information,” the definition of which is disturbingly vague, as Human Rights Watch notes. And given Duterte’s record of silencing the press, he could use the broad provisions to punish reporters who criticize him or his government’s coronavirus response.

    In nearby Thailand, the military-dominated but technically civilian government also has invoked emergency powers, supposedly to fight the virus. These allow the government — which put journalists in de facto reeducation camps after a 2014 coup — to “censor or shut down media if deemed necessary,” according to the decree. Late last year, opponents of the government regularly gathered in Bangkok to protest its oppressive style; with the country now on lockdown, they basically can’t demonstrate, making it easier for officials to cast these changes as uncontroversial.
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    Fellow traveler Viktor Orban, who in the past decade has shifted Hungary from a democracy to an authoritarian regime with a democratic facade, is taking advantage of the coronavirus as well. This past week, Orban’s rubber-stamp parliament approved a law that gives the Hungarian leader emergency powers — indefinitely. He can rule by decree for as long as he wants, making him a dictator inside the European Union. Orban no longer maintains even the illusion of democracy: He can unilaterally change any existing Hungarian law and has effectively dissolved the legislature. Now people can be put in jail for spreading false information, which, as in the Philippines, is not well-defined. It’s unclear what, if anything, these changes have to do with battling the coronavirus.

    In Poland, leaders of the ruling Law and Justice party — which also has hollowed out democracy — have refused to cancel the early May presidential election. The party put the country on lockdown, meaning the opposition candidate cannot campaign. But Law and Justice’s candidate, Andrzej Duda, is campaigning widely on state-dominated television. (Surveys show that if the election were delayed and more people could vote, Duda would face a real fight, but in a May election with low turnout, he would dominate.) The party also stuffed new electoral laws into emergency legislation to deal with the coronavirus, passed during a chaos-filled parliamentary session. These shift the election procedures in ways that further favor Law and Justice by making it easier for the party’s older core of supporters to cast ballots, but not for opposition supporters to vote.

    People abroad are asking their militaries to save their democracies. It won’t work.

    Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu has tried to utilize the virus for political reasons as well. Facing criminal charges that had already been filed against him, he cited the pandemic as a reason to close the courts, paralyze the Knesset and operate, for a time, without parliamentary oversight. His moves helped end a political stalemate in which his opposition fragmented; then a portion of it joined his governing coalition — leaving Netanyahu in power just as he looked to be at the end of his rope. Netanyahu’s moves angered many Israelis, but, as in Thailand, the coronavirus ban on sizable public gatherings meant they could not go into the streets to protest. Some held an online, live-streamed protest, but a virtual rally does not pack the same visceral effect as a massive street demonstration.
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    In Russia, meanwhile, Putin’s government has used the virus to bolster its surveillance systems in Moscow, installing more facial-recognition tools to maintain quarantines — tools that could also be deployed to anticipate public rallies. And Putin got his compliant legislature to end term limits, possibly allowing him to serve into the 2030s, as most of Russia was distracted by the spreading virus.

    In Turkey, strongman Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government has detained people who dared criticize its response to the crisis. And the authoritarian government of Turkmenistan, which claims, implausibly, that the country has no coronavirus cases, banned the use of the word “coronavirus” this past week.

    In other parts of Asia, too, strongmen see an opportunity in the virus. Cambodian autocrat Hun Sen has cited the outbreak to arrest at least 17 critics of his regime since late January, according to Human Rights Watch — mostly people who shared information about the spread of the coronavirus in the country and the government’s response. Several of those arrested were members of the leading (and banned) opposition Cambodia National Rescue Party. And Hun Sen has used the virus to smear minority groups like Khmer Muslims. The Health Ministry is insinuating on its official Facebook page that Muslims were somehow responsible for introducing the contagion to Cambodia.
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    This kind of attack has a history. Over the centuries, rulers often have blamed outsiders for pandemics. During the Black Death of the early 14th century, for instance, officials in Strasbourg claimed that Jews caused the outbreak, as Elizabeth Kolbert noted in the New Yorker this past week. Jews were given a choice: Convert or die. Half converted, and the rest were put to death. People blamed Jews in other European cities for the Black Death, too, and slaughtered them.

    Autocrats’ seizure of emergency powers is often difficult to undo. History suggests that in many cases, after a crisis is over, authoritarian leaders keep those powers and make them a normal part of governing. Putin has only become stronger since he used the Chechnya war to amass more authority, and now he is gunning to rule Russia into his 70s. After seizing control in Indonesia, Suharto ruled dictatorially for 30 more years. What happened in the years after the Reichstag fire is well known.

    But perhaps the coronavirus will play out differently. Unlike wars, in which presidents and prime ministers do not actually fight, the bosses are not immune to a pandemic. Already, world leaders like British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Australian Home Minister Peter Dutton and Britain’s Prince Charles (none of whom are autocrats, to be sure) have contracted the coronavirus. Two senior Iranian ministers, leaders of an autocratic and opaque regime, have it. In previous pandemics — as when a plague hit the Eastern Roman Empire — infected autocrats saw their power wane. And if scientists devise a coronavirus vaccine or treatment, it would provide a clear, obvious endpoint to the panic and fear, a signal that a leader’s powers should be curtailed. In the meantime, the maneuvers by men like Hun Sen, Orban and Duterte will keep their countries backsliding further from democracy."
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    Oct 18, 2020 | 11:04 20 Ummmm , you do realize that’s what exactly is happening here in Canada .. eh ?? Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 11:04 21
    Quote Originally Posted by dalek View Post
    Woooohooooo
    Good post dale , lost on the media while theyre obsersing about trump Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 18, 2020 | 11:13 22
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Here is a good article on all the dictators right and left wanting to use the covid crisis to take more control. Some are supported by the good ole USA! And Trump publicly admired his dictator buddies Putin and Kin Jong Un. What a guy!

    Dictators are using the coronavirus to strengthen their grip on power

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...a6d_story.html

    "Indeed, from the Philippines to Hungary, autocratic leaders in many nations are using the coronavirus to enhance their powers — to put in place new rules that will be hard to overturn even if the coronavirus is defeated. Many of the new powers have no clear end date. The pandemic will have entrenched these strongmen indefinitely.

    Rodrigo Duterte, the brash, illiberal president of the Philippines, has waged a brutal drug war propelled by perhaps tens of thousands of extrajudicial killings. He also has battled the media and opposition politicians. Last month, he got the legislature, controlled by his loyalists, to grant him broad emergency powers to confront the coronavirus. Some are reasonable, like the ability to order public transport to serve health-care workers. But rights activists believe that Duterte will use his emergency powers to punish opponents and get more control of state funds. The legislature also made it a crime to spread “false information,” the definition of which is disturbingly vague, as Human Rights Watch notes. And given Duterte’s record of silencing the press, he could use the broad provisions to punish reporters who criticize him or his government’s coronavirus response.

    In nearby Thailand, the military-dominated but technically civilian government also has invoked emergency powers, supposedly to fight the virus. These allow the government — which put journalists in de facto reeducation camps after a 2014 coup — to “censor or shut down media if deemed necessary,” according to the decree. Late last year, opponents of the government regularly gathered in Bangkok to protest its oppressive style; with the country now on lockdown, they basically can’t demonstrate, making it easier for officials to cast these changes as uncontroversial.
    AD

    Fellow traveler Viktor Orban, who in the past decade has shifted Hungary from a democracy to an authoritarian regime with a democratic facade, is taking advantage of the coronavirus as well. This past week, Orban’s rubber-stamp parliament approved a law that gives the Hungarian leader emergency powers — indefinitely. He can rule by decree for as long as he wants, making him a dictator inside the European Union. Orban no longer maintains even the illusion of democracy: He can unilaterally change any existing Hungarian law and has effectively dissolved the legislature. Now people can be put in jail for spreading false information, which, as in the Philippines, is not well-defined. It’s unclear what, if anything, these changes have to do with battling the coronavirus.

    In Poland, leaders of the ruling Law and Justice party — which also has hollowed out democracy — have refused to cancel the early May presidential election. The party put the country on lockdown, meaning the opposition candidate cannot campaign. But Law and Justice’s candidate, Andrzej Duda, is campaigning widely on state-dominated television. (Surveys show that if the election were delayed and more people could vote, Duda would face a real fight, but in a May election with low turnout, he would dominate.) The party also stuffed new electoral laws into emergency legislation to deal with the coronavirus, passed during a chaos-filled parliamentary session. These shift the election procedures in ways that further favor Law and Justice by making it easier for the party’s older core of supporters to cast ballots, but not for opposition supporters to vote.

    People abroad are asking their militaries to save their democracies. It won’t work.

    Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu has tried to utilize the virus for political reasons as well. Facing criminal charges that had already been filed against him, he cited the pandemic as a reason to close the courts, paralyze the Knesset and operate, for a time, without parliamentary oversight. His moves helped end a political stalemate in which his opposition fragmented; then a portion of it joined his governing coalition — leaving Netanyahu in power just as he looked to be at the end of his rope. Netanyahu’s moves angered many Israelis, but, as in Thailand, the coronavirus ban on sizable public gatherings meant they could not go into the streets to protest. Some held an online, live-streamed protest, but a virtual rally does not pack the same visceral effect as a massive street demonstration.
    AD

    In Russia, meanwhile, Putin’s government has used the virus to bolster its surveillance systems in Moscow, installing more facial-recognition tools to maintain quarantines — tools that could also be deployed to anticipate public rallies. And Putin got his compliant legislature to end term limits, possibly allowing him to serve into the 2030s, as most of Russia was distracted by the spreading virus.

    In Turkey, strongman Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government has detained people who dared criticize its response to the crisis. And the authoritarian government of Turkmenistan, which claims, implausibly, that the country has no coronavirus cases, banned the use of the word “coronavirus” this past week.

    In other parts of Asia, too, strongmen see an opportunity in the virus. Cambodian autocrat Hun Sen has cited the outbreak to arrest at least 17 critics of his regime since late January, according to Human Rights Watch — mostly people who shared information about the spread of the coronavirus in the country and the government’s response. Several of those arrested were members of the leading (and banned) opposition Cambodia National Rescue Party. And Hun Sen has used the virus to smear minority groups like Khmer Muslims. The Health Ministry is insinuating on its official Facebook page that Muslims were somehow responsible for introducing the contagion to Cambodia.
    AD

    This kind of attack has a history. Over the centuries, rulers often have blamed outsiders for pandemics. During the Black Death of the early 14th century, for instance, officials in Strasbourg claimed that Jews caused the outbreak, as Elizabeth Kolbert noted in the New Yorker this past week. Jews were given a choice: Convert or die. Half converted, and the rest were put to death. People blamed Jews in other European cities for the Black Death, too, and slaughtered them.

    Autocrats’ seizure of emergency powers is often difficult to undo. History suggests that in many cases, after a crisis is over, authoritarian leaders keep those powers and make them a normal part of governing. Putin has only become stronger since he used the Chechnya war to amass more authority, and now he is gunning to rule Russia into his 70s. After seizing control in Indonesia, Suharto ruled dictatorially for 30 more years. What happened in the years after the Reichstag fire is well known.

    But perhaps the coronavirus will play out differently. Unlike wars, in which presidents and prime ministers do not actually fight, the bosses are not immune to a pandemic. Already, world leaders like British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Australian Home Minister Peter Dutton and Britain’s Prince Charles (none of whom are autocrats, to be sure) have contracted the coronavirus. Two senior Iranian ministers, leaders of an autocratic and opaque regime, have it. In previous pandemics — as when a plague hit the Eastern Roman Empire — infected autocrats saw their power wane. And if scientists devise a coronavirus vaccine or treatment, it would provide a clear, obvious endpoint to the panic and fear, a signal that a leader’s powers should be curtailed. In the meantime, the maneuvers by men like Hun Sen, Orban and Duterte will keep their countries backsliding further from democracy."
    You and your conspiracy theories lol Reply With Quote

  • Oct 18, 2020 | 11:26 23
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Ummmm , you do realize that’s what exactly is happening here in Canada .. eh ??
    Do you realize that its up to each province to set most of the Covid rules and guidelines. Health is primarily a provincial responsibility

    Yeah. Doug Ford, Jason Kenney, Brian Pallister, Scott Moe and several other "dictators" that some agrivillers probably voted for are imposing restrictions on Canadians to stop the spread of covid! hahahah

    It's over! We are all going to be dispossessed! LMAO
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    Oct 18, 2020 | 11:36 24
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Do you realize that its up to each province to set most of the Covid rules and guidelines. Health is primarily a provincial responsibility

    Yeah. Doug Ford, Jason Kenney, Brian Pallister, Scott Moe and several other "dictators" that some agrivillers probably voted for are imposing restrictions on Canadians to stop the spread of covid! hahahah

    It's over! We are all going to be dispossessed! LMAO
    Oh boy you missed the point completely, never mind Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 11:56 25 Fill in the blanks for finance minister. W______ W______ of the W_____. Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 11:58 26
    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Fill in the blanks for finance minister. W______ W______ of the W_____.
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    Oct 18, 2020 | 12:02 27 Correctimondo, how did you guess? Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 12:13 28
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
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    Typo, that should be: from the W___. Or over the W___. Now of the E___. Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 13:52 29
    Quote Originally Posted by biglentil View Post
    Its the goal of this va@%ine that is the problem. https://thesecrettruthabout.com/the-georgia-guidestones-mystery/

    Whoa. Not even subtle, is it. Reply With Quote
    Oct 18, 2020 | 15:21 30 At the bare minimum, this:

    John A Allen
    @WhiteCrkLumber
    Trudeau, his Liberals, are evil, conniving thugs. They've used Climate and Covid to take our jobs, our friends, our families, our gatherings in Churches, in bars and night clubs, at sports. Freedom, prosperity and the things in life we value most are forcibly being taken from us.
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