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Apr 5, 2020 | 10:26 1 Canada needs to immediately put together a task force of experience individuals who can establish a plan of how the nations economy gets back on its feet after Coronavirus. We need to put our differences aside and entertain any and all options. For example turf carbon tax and bill c69 indefinitely. Whatever it takes to get us back on our feet. Put politics on the shelf and the hell with the Paris agreement for now and no more global spending of any kind!! All Canadian federal govt dollars stay here to look after our own people!
Next question is names of Some individuals to sit on this task force to set direction for govt to follow. Some names that come to mind are Brett Wilson, Stephen Harper, Paul Martin, Brian Mulroney, Brad Wall, Rona Ambrose, Rex Murphy, Jean Chrétien, Chrystia Freeland, Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott, Jim pattison, Frank McKenna, Mark Carney, Julie Di**son, Murray Edwards. Perhaps a mix of current and past political leaders and private sector individuals with strong economic background and the likes of Rex to coach the task force how to present plan to Canadians and a guy like brad wall to sell it. We need a group of people who will work together for the common good and set their petty differences and political stripes aside To save Canada from completel economic ruin!
Let’s hear your thoughts!
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:32 2 You can scratch Brad Wall and Chystia Freeland off the list and maybe add Grant Devine .....

    Scratch Pattison as well...he is the guy that will gouge the shit out of his customers then make a big donation ...
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:34 3 Agree totally this needs to be done ASAP
    Most safety measures are in place , majority of people following them . Everyone gets the message .
    So yes now is the time to do this and you list is a very good starting point 👍.
    This must be done ASAP or we are screwd as a nation and our kids future .
    #1 with out a doubt is Brett Wilson Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:34 4 Excellent idea
    Another name that comes to mind is grant devine Reply With Quote

  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:36 5
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    You can scratch Brad Wall and Chystia Freeland off the list and maybe add Grant Devine .....

    Scratch Pattison as well...he is the guy that will gouge the shit out of his customers the make a big donation ...
    Maybe could get Steve out of his bunker! Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 10:37 6 Hey bucket good idea on Devine!
    Brad a very good spokesman to sell plan and likeable
    We need some current administration representation so that’s why freeland is on list Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 10:37 7 Jean Chretian Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:39 8 Kevin O’Leary ? Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:40 9 Grant Devine just about bankrupted Saskatchewan.

    Under Devine's premiership, Saskatchewan's debt grew from $3.5 billion to $12 billion.[5] Devine governed during some of the worst droughts since the "Dirty Thirties". The price of oil and agricultural commodities collapsed. In the end, the high cost of government mortgage rate reduction policies during 19 per-cent interest rates and his agricultural rescue policies resulted in a large deficit. The year Devine came to government the provincial GDP only grew 0.6 per cent, down from 20.9 per cent growth the previous year.[6]

    Grant was in charge when - Although Devine himself was never implicated in any criminal wrongdoing, 13 out of 55 Conservative MLAs and staffers were subsequently charged with expense account fraud committed during Devine's second term (1986–1991). The scheme accounted for $837,000 of defrauded government funds.[15] Of these a handful were acquitted while some served prison time.[16][17] Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 10:41 10 Arlene Dickinson
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    Apr 5, 2020 | 10:44 11 There is no quick turnaround from this. Millions will be unemployed even after the all clear is given. And none will have any money to spend on an economy. Government will be giving out EI checks for months to come (before transforming it into a a universal basic income check). You fooling yourself if you think any taxes are being eliminated or going down percentage-wise.

    Disposable income will basically be eliminated in the population. Watch for CRA to pull out its ultra-mega microscope when looking at taxes. Start combining border information with individual income and you could easily see them start targeting those with foreign assets. Socialists will be happy when government says anything over $40k in net income is extravagant and must be surrendered for the good of the motherland. Reply With Quote

  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:47 12 Hey chuck please stop with the politics! Canadians do not have the time or patience for these games anymore! Please Let it go! There is not one person out there who has not made some mistakes but that doesn’t mean they haven’t learned valuable tough lessons that may in fact be valuable experience to bring to the table! If we don’t work together we will all fail. Reply With Quote

  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:48 13
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Grant Devine just about bankrupted Saskatchewan.

    Under Devine's premiership, Saskatchewan's debt grew from $3.5 billion to $12 billion.[5] Devine governed during some of the worst droughts since the "Dirty Thirties". The price of oil and agricultural commodities collapsed. In the end, the high cost of government mortgage rate reduction policies during 19 per-cent interest rates and his agricultural rescue policies resulted in a large deficit. The year Devine came to government the provincial GDP only grew 0.6 per cent, down from 20.9 per cent growth the previous year.[6]

    Grant was in charge when - Although Devine himself was never implicated in any criminal wrongdoing, 13 out of 55 Conservative MLAs and staffers were subsequently charged with expense account fraud committed during Devine's second term (1986–1991). The scheme accounted for $837,000 of defrauded government funds.[15] Of these a handful were acquitted while some served prison time.[16][17]
    Maybe they should of impeached him ?
    History is kind to grant , wont be to the ****oo clock child Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:49 14
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Grant Devine just about bankrupted Saskatchewan.

    Under Devine's premiership, Saskatchewan's debt grew from $3.5 billion to $12 billion.[5] Devine governed during some of the worst droughts since the "Dirty Thirties". The price of oil and agricultural commodities collapsed. In the end, the high cost of government mortgage rate reduction policies during 19 per-cent interest rates and his agricultural rescue policies resulted in a large deficit. The year Devine came to government the provincial GDP only grew 0.6 per cent, down from 20.9 per cent growth the previous year.[6]

    Grant was in charge when - Although Devine himself was never implicated in any criminal wrongdoing, 13 out of 55 Conservative MLAs and staffers were subsequently charged with expense account fraud committed during Devine's second term (1986–1991). The scheme accounted for $837,000 of defrauded government funds.[15] Of these a handful were acquitted while some served prison time.[16][17]

    That was the cost of bringing Sask. out of the stone age and the investment he made has payed back thousands of time over! Reply With Quote

  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:51 15
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Grant Devine just about bankrupted Saskatchewan.

    Under Devine's premiership, Saskatchewan's debt grew from $3.5 billion to $12 billion.[5] Devine governed during some of the worst droughts since the "Dirty Thirties". The price of oil and agricultural commodities collapsed. In the end, the high cost of government mortgage rate reduction policies during 19 per-cent interest rates and his agricultural rescue policies resulted in a large deficit. The year Devine came to government the provincial GDP only grew 0.6 per cent, down from 20.9 per cent growth the previous year.[6]

    Grant was in charge when - Although Devine himself was never implicated in any criminal wrongdoing, 13 out of 55 Conservative MLAs and staffers were subsequently charged with expense account fraud committed during Devine's second term (1986–1991). The scheme accounted for $837,000 of defrauded government funds.[15] Of these a handful were acquitted while some served prison time.[16][17]
    Devine made investments that set this province on track to take advantage of what the province was capable of producing...

    No other premier had long term vision of the province since ....they all lived in his shadow...including Wall and Moe....

    Devine might have mortgaged the province but his bets were on the right industries...

    Every government succumbs to corruption...
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 10:56 16
    Quote Originally Posted by cuban_assassin View Post
    Hey chuck please stop with the politics! Canadians do not have the time or patience for these games anymore! Please Let it go! There is not one person out there who has not made some mistakes but that doesn’t mean they haven’t learned valuable tough lessons that may in fact be valuable experience to bring to the table! If we don’t work together we will all fail.
    Unfortunately thats all he knows
    Other names that come to mind are kim campbell, rachel notley Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:01 17 No doubt Grant Divine understood saskatchewan agriculture and was supportive since he was a part time farmer as well, but that didn't make him a great premier or a good money manager.

    The last time Grant Divine was suggested as a nominee for the Conservative Party of Canada this is what happened:

    "The Conservative Party of Canada has denied a nomination bid by former Saskatchewan premier Grant Devine.

    "The national nominations committee, in consultation with the local nominations committee for Souris-Moose Mountain, has determined that Mr. Devine's name would not be entered in the contest for the Conservative party nomination for Souris-Moose Mountain," party official Tom Jarmyn said.

    The party gave no specific reason for rejecting Mr. Devine.

    Mr. Devine, who was premier from 1982 to 1991, was at the helm of the Tories during the biggest political scandal in Saskatchewan history.

    Some 21 party members were charged after it was discovered that legislators and caucus workers illegally diverted hundreds of thousands of dollars from government allowances form 1987-1991. Sixteen were convicted of fraud and breach of trust."

    He is persona non grata in most Conservative circles. He has baggage! Reply With Quote
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    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:03 18
    Quote Originally Posted by 15444 View Post
    There is no quick turnaround from this. Millions will be unemployed even after the all clear is given. And none will have any money to spend on an economy. Government will be giving out EI checks for months to come (before transforming it into a a universal basic income check). You fooling yourself if you think any taxes are being eliminated or going down percentage-wise.

    Disposable income will basically be eliminated in the population. Watch for CRA to pull out its ultra-mega microscope when looking at taxes. Start combining border information with individual income and you could easily see them start targeting those with foreign assets. Socialists will be happy when government says anything over $40k in net income is extravagant and must be surrendered for the good of the motherland.
    Agree. Even if you put God on the committee, none of these realities will change. Add to the list, people started out this journey in debt.

    All the people mentioned on the committee will be just fine however. Reply With Quote
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    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:09 19
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    Unfortunately thats all he knows
    Other names that come to mind are kim campbell, rachel notley

    I wouldn’t want either of those. I think Danielle Smith would be good. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 11:27 20
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    No doubt Grant Divine understood saskatchewan agriculture and was supportive since he was a part time farmer as well, but that didn't make him a great premier or a good money manager.

    The last time Grant Divine was suggested as a nominee for the Conservative Party of Canada this is what happened:

    "The Conservative Party of Canada has denied a nomination bid by former Saskatchewan premier Grant Devine.

    "The national nominations committee, in consultation with the local nominations committee for Souris-Moose Mountain, has determined that Mr. Devine's name would not be entered in the contest for the Conservative party nomination for Souris-Moose Mountain," party official Tom Jarmyn said.

    The party gave no specific reason for rejecting Mr. Devine.


    Mr. Devine, who was premier from 1982 to 1991, was at the helm of the Tories during the biggest political scandal in Saskatchewan history.

    Some 21 party members were charged after it was discovered that legislators and caucus workers illegally diverted hundreds of thousands of dollars from government allowances form 1987-1991. Sixteen were convicted of fraud and breach of trust."

    He is persona non grata in most Conservative circles. He has baggage!
    i couldn't help but notice that you are repeating yourself Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:27 21 Chuck, you are as usual off base. I’m not sure if you were born yet but for those that saw the 80’s in colour will have an appreciation for Devines legacy like the water retention projects fertilizer production oil upgrader for a few biggies. It was these forward looking projects that much of the debt was put towards. They have paid off in spades. Yes there were court cases, yes as with all governments there was waste. Premier Devine would be an excellent person to build or rebuild anything that’s left of this economy. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 11:29 22
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    No doubt Grant Divine understood saskatchewan agriculture and was supportive since he was a part time farmer as well, but that didn't make him a great premier or a good money manager.

    The last time Grant Divine was suggested as a nominee for the Conservative Party of Canada this is what happened:

    "The Conservative Party of Canada has denied a nomination bid by former Saskatchewan premier Grant Devine.

    "The national nominations committee, in consultation with the local nominations committee for Souris-Moose Mountain, has determined that Mr. Devine's name would not be entered in the contest for the Conservative party nomination for Souris-Moose Mountain," party official Tom Jarmyn said.

    The party gave no specific reason for rejecting Mr. Devine.

    Mr. Devine, who was premier from 1982 to 1991, was at the helm of the Tories during the biggest political scandal in Saskatchewan history.

    Some 21 party members were charged after it was discovered that legislators and caucus workers illegally diverted hundreds of thousands of dollars from government allowances form 1987-1991. Sixteen were convicted of fraud and breach of trust."

    He is persona non grata in most Conservative circles. He has baggage!
    SNC LAVALIN. Enough said! Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:29 23
    Quote Originally Posted by LEP View Post
    I wouldn’t want either of those. I think Danielle Smith would be good.
    i know where you are coming from but rachel in particular , learned a lot about life and economics
    some of these lessons are invaluable
    i think her heart was in the right place but was beat from the start by the big orange socialist machine Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:32 24
    Quote Originally Posted by flea beetle View Post
    SNC LAVALIN. Enough said!
    how dare you!!!!!!!!!! Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Apr 5, 2020 | 11:42 25 A War Time Production Board is a fine idea. You would have to find people who know how to Produce something however.
    Those kinds of people insult too many others tho LoL. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 11:43 26 I wouldn't let most of you guys make a grocery list let alone a list of who should be on an economic task force.

    You forgot Donald Trump. Let him takeover. Many of you want that anyway! LOL Reply With Quote
    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:44 27 I can ignore Grant Devine's shortcomings....all things considered. ...

    People ignore the shortcomings of priests and their baggage is far worse...

    Just some perspective. ..... Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 11:44 28
    Quote Originally Posted by flea beetle View Post
    SNC LAVALIN. Enough said!
    Well , could add the Panama Papers for good measure lol .
    But let’s not stoop to that level of chuck .
    Cuban has a great thread here , let’s keep it as such 👍👍. Reply With Quote
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    Apr 5, 2020 | 11:51 29
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    i know where you are coming from but rachel in particular , learned a lot about life and economics
    some of these lessons are invaluable
    i think her heart was in the right place but was beat from the start by the big orange socialist machine
    I agree, but her sniping at Kenney through all of this means I don’t think she works well with others. The people on this team would have to put politics aside and she doesn’t seem capable of that. Reply With Quote
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  • Apr 5, 2020 | 11:51 30 The one industry in Canada that will help restart the economy is agriculture ...farmers more specifically...

    Don't need airlines...or lift kit shops or tattoo parlors....

    Think about industries that are stable given the right environment to help grow the economy...

    You just about have to go back to the beginnings of this nation...agriculture....railways....graincos .....and build from there..

    Oil will return as well... Reply With Quote