Ontario Destroys 55 million N95 Masks

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Ontario Destroys 55 million N95 Masks

biglentil's Avatar Mar 30, 2020 | 11:01 1 Can't make this stuff up!
https://www.toronto.com/opinion-stor...estroyed-them/ Reply With Quote
Mar 30, 2020 | 11:05 2 Just absolutely nuts!

Common sense is dead. Reply With Quote
Mar 30, 2020 | 15:55 3 I would venture a guess it has a lot to do with overregulation in canada ? Best before dates ? Reply With Quote
Mar 30, 2020 | 16:46 4
Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
I would venture a guess it has a lot to do with overregulation in canada ? Best before dates ?
Ya think maybe. If there is any upside to this Liberal-induced fiasco, it may be that some regulations will be struck down, since their negative consequences will be made obvious.

Is any medical staff checking the best-before date on a mask before walking into emerge or the O.R.?

Cannot replace that number in a short time. I read today that it took 25 days to retool plants in Taiwan for producing masks. They can now produce 9-10 million a day. Reply With Quote
LEP
Mar 30, 2020 | 17:10 5 The answer to this was in the article. Someone should have monitored the supply and rotated in fresh masks and used the ones coming up to expiry before they need to be destroyed.

It is called inventory management. So again another example of why government can't manage anything better than private entities.

Shitty management and no accountability. Reply With Quote
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  • Mar 30, 2020 | 17:44 6 I wore a "pink" grain dust mask and black grease monkey gloves today when I got groceries in Regina.
    I wasn't the only one wearing a mask and gloves.....but I was the only person wearing a pink one...lol.

    Felt a bit out of place, I bet less than 10 % of people were wearing masks.

    Oh yeah, in keeping with the theme of the thread.....I have no idea how old those things are! Reply With Quote
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  • wd9
    Mar 30, 2020 | 17:45 7 I worked 20 years in icu/ccu/respiratory. Think i only saw an N95 used a few times in severe cased isolation rooms. No hospital logistics system would be prepared to handle 1,000,000 times the PPE requirement covid has sprung on them. IF you come in with a sprained ankle today, as a doctor you have to assume they are a carrier. That makes for a lot of PPE as you have to remove the previous PPE from the previous patient who actually had covid to not infect ankle guy.

    So do you spend money to replace equipment, staff, drugs.... you use every day, or a warehouse of PPE no one ever uses? These are hard decisions when there isn't enough budget to properly run a hospital, let alone stock pile and maintain a stock pile.

    Easy for us arm chair pundits to judge. Reply With Quote
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  • LEP
    Mar 30, 2020 | 17:54 8
    Quote Originally Posted by wd9 View Post
    I worked 20 years in icu/ccu/respiratory. Think i only saw an N95 used a few times in severe cased isolation rooms. No hospital logistics system would be prepared to handle 1,000,000 times the PPE requirement covid has sprung on them. IF you come in with a sprained ankle today, as a doctor you have to assume they are a carrier. That makes for a lot of PPE as you have to remove the previous PPE from the previous patient who actually had covid to not infect ankle guy.

    So do you spend money to replace equipment, staff, drugs.... you use every day, or a warehouse of PPE no one ever uses? These are hard decisions when there isn't enough budget to properly run a hospital, let alone stock pile and maintain a stock pile.

    Easy for us arm chair pundits to judge.
    True, but if you are in the military everything is a stockpile. This is insurance for a calamity. Now I am not saying you spring a million PPE out of storage every year just before they expire. But if the estimated need was to have that many they do have to be managed, not forgotten.

    Either you use or surplus sell the PPE before expiry and the cost is the cost of insurance. Or at first sign of flu happening you enact the emergency plan to build stocks of PPE. But not buy a warehouse full and a few years later chuck them in the dump and don't replace them. Reply With Quote
    Mar 30, 2020 | 17:55 9
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    I wore a "pink" grain dust mask and black grease monkey gloves today when I got groceries in Regina.
    I wasn't the only one wearing a mask and gloves.....but I was the only person wearing a pink one...lol.

    Felt a bit out of place, I bet less than 10 % of people were wearing masks.

    Oh yeah, in keeping with the theme of the thread.....I have no idea how old those things are!
    Lol, I got the Green Monkey gloves 🧤, the 4 mil ones for shopping . Got them a few weeks back.
    Just went in , only a few with gloves and no masks at grocery store.
    Everyone doing the social distance thing very well actually 👍.
    Masks are near impossible to find .
    I kinda don’t get how those masks can really have a best before date especially if never opened ? Reply With Quote
    LEP
    Mar 30, 2020 | 18:30 10
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Lol, I got the Green Monkey gloves 🧤, the 4 mil ones for shopping . Got them a few weeks back.
    Just went in , only a few with gloves and no masks at grocery store.
    Everyone doing the social distance thing very well actually 👍.
    Masks are near impossible to find .
    I kinda don’t get how those masks can really have a best before date especially if never opened ?
    The one comment that I saw was that the elastic became brittle and broke. I thought that only happened on my farm. Reply With Quote
    wd9
    Mar 30, 2020 | 19:03 11
    Quote Originally Posted by LEP View Post
    True, but if you are in the military everything is a stockpile. This is insurance for a calamity. Now I am not saying you spring a million PPE out of storage every year just before they expire. But if the estimated need was to have that many they do have to be managed, not forgotten.

    Either you use or surplus sell the PPE before expiry and the cost is the cost of insurance. Or at first sign of flu happening you enact the emergency plan to build stocks of PPE. But not buy a warehouse full and a few years later chuck them in the dump and don't replace them.
    I guess it's like the Dr from Taiwan said, having been thru it a few times, as a society you learn.

    It is so hard to always do the right thing without the benefit of hindsight. Reply With Quote

  • Mar 30, 2020 | 19:39 12 I sometimes wondering if we haven’t built a system we can’t sustain. Government regulations, business regulations, costs are out of hand and our system is unprepared for a situation like this. People are not prepared for any kind of catastrophe. U ask any older person why they kept a couple deep freezes full of food from their gardens and they will tell u about not being able to go to the store and get it. Being hungry at times, having to do with out and or improvising to survive. Our young people don’t have a clue what it takes save themselves because they never have had to. Tough times ahead if people don’t prioritize what is important and what isn’t. Reply With Quote
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  • Mar 30, 2020 | 19:53 13 was looking at some fat prairie chickens on the road today
    they looked tasty
    we will be ok way out here
    NYC. , downtown Toronto, Montreal,Vancouver, not so much Reply With Quote
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    LEP

  • Mar 30, 2020 | 21:44 14 Red lentils⬆️ Reply With Quote
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    LEP

  • Mar 31, 2020 | 03:56 15 Maybe funding cuts, they had to cut somewhere.
    No one in charge of it or no one knows who is in
    Charge.
    Screwups , around here, It would be nice to blame
    Someone, but it comes down to me.
    Except the years the Railroads can't haul
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    Mar 31, 2020 | 05:46 16
    Quote Originally Posted by LEP View Post
    The answer to this was in the article. Someone should have monitored the supply and rotated in fresh masks and used the ones coming up to expiry before they need to be destroyed.

    It is called inventory management. So again another example of why government can't manage anything better than private entities.

    Shitty management and no accountability.

    You are right SOMEONE should have been monitoring it. The prime minister even had someone from appointed to the position.

    Minister of public services and PROCUREMENT Anita Anand. Reply With Quote