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Trudeau says barricades must come down.

Feb 21, 2020 | 15:08 1 He claims they have done everything they can to engage the FN. Hopes the chiefs remove the rail blockage. If not the police will have to. What a joke. Did he honestly believe he could fix 160 years of grievances in two weeks? He truly is a mental midget. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 15:11 2 And yet Scheer said the same thing days ago....

    Trudeau is an incompetent buffoon.... Reply With Quote

  • Feb 21, 2020 | 15:37 3 In other words the Liberal Frenchmen in Quebec are running out of propane. Reply With Quote

  • Feb 21, 2020 | 15:53 4 Our leader has spoken. We Agree To Disagree.

    Wowsers leadership at it's finest!!!!!!!! Reply With Quote

  • Feb 21, 2020 | 16:02 5 I say farmers join the protests....look how much has been committed so far ....2.5 billion to indigenous affairs....

    They are getting somewhere. ...

    Farmers are brought up in every conversation about the effects on the economy and yet farmers issues are ignored.... Reply With Quote

  • Feb 21, 2020 | 16:16 6
    Quote Originally Posted by wiseguy View Post
    Bucket there is **** all for Farmers !

    No use Harpin on it !

    Yup I know....but it's amazing how farmers are taken for granted or are always mentioned as an important part of the economy until it isn't. .... Reply With Quote
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    Feb 21, 2020 | 16:35 7 For those who wished for a reduction in CO2. Well I think they got their wish. Maby now they need a good kick in the Butt. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 16:51 8
    Quote Originally Posted by J88 View Post
    For those who wished for a reduction in CO2. Well I think they got their wish.
    Rex Murphy has been pointing out for some time now that every day the country is shut down our GG emissions go down. So ---- success I guess. Be careful what you wish for. Reply With Quote
    Feb 21, 2020 | 17:00 9
    Quote Originally Posted by bobofthenorth View Post
    Rex Murphy has been pointing out for some time now that every day the country is shut down our GG emissions go down. So ---- success I guess. Be careful what you wish for.
    I am not so sure about that when you move from rail to trucks???? Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 17:37 10 Notice he said must
    Not will.

    What a lightweight. No leadership only platitudes. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 18:17 11
    Quote Originally Posted by mcfarms View Post
    Notice he said must
    Not will.

    What a lightweight. No leadership only platitudes.
    What did you expect, trudope keeps reminding them that they are a nation within a nation. I cant stop laughing, sunny ways. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 19:42 12 Well isn't that convenient. Coastal Gas env permit rejected. Amazing timing. Construction now delayed, costs to escalate. Maybe Trudeau will buy the thing and kill it that way. What a joke.

    $2B in spending on indigenous programs announced today too. So extortion works.

    Coastal GasLink environmental assessment report rejected, construction could be delayed Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Feb 21, 2020 | 19:48 13 Breathing room for the UN to get involved. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 19:58 14
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Well isn't that convenient. Coastal Gas env permit rejected. Amazing timing. Construction now delayed, costs to escalate. Maybe Trudeau will buy the thing and kill it that way. What a joke.

    $2B in spending on indigenous programs announced today too. So extortion works.

    Coastal GasLink environmental assessment report rejected, construction could be delayed
    That’s exactly what this is .... extortion Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 20:05 15
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Well isn't that convenient. Coastal Gas env permit rejected. Amazing timing. Construction now delayed, costs to escalate. Maybe Trudeau will buy the thing and kill it that way. What a joke.

    $2B in spending on indigenous programs announced today too. So extortion works.

    Coastal GasLink environmental assessment report rejected, construction could be delayed
    Delay, delay, delay, add extra regulations and approval procedures.
    This is how Trudeau is killing projects and why investors are going south. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 20:06 16 This is why farmers will have to protests like the indigenous groups....to see any changes to agricultural policy... Reply With Quote
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  • fjlip's Avatar Feb 21, 2020 | 21:17 17
    Quote Originally Posted by mcfarms View Post
    Notice he said must
    Not will.

    What a lightweight. No leadership only platitudes.
    Tries to ride the fence on every issue, wants to be everyone's buddy, sides with every nutjob/disrupter/wacko. No moral no principles governs by kissing AZZ. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 21, 2020 | 22:23 18
    Quote Originally Posted by MBgrower View Post
    What did you expect, trudope keeps reminding them that they are a nation within a nation. I cant stop laughing, sunny ways.
    His dad and John Chretien were the last to really understand something needed to be done and they had to give up, both of them had/have pretty high levels of intelligence, politics aside.
    Junior Trudeau is not equipped in any way shape or form for what needs to be accomplished and the FN's know that. Reply With Quote

  • Feb 21, 2020 | 22:56 19 It’s a sad day when the tail wags the dog .... Reply With Quote
    Feb 22, 2020 | 08:51 20 So how come Doug Ford hasn’t sent in the OPP? If the solution is so simple as enforcing the law then Ford should have done it before now!

    The lame duck Scheer can sit back and say anything he wants because the conservatives don’t care about the First Nation votes.

    Everyone wants a peaceful and lasting resolution as soon as possible and the blockades to end. FN Leaders in BC need to decide who makes the decisions. Unelected hereditary chiefs or elected band councils. In the present day it would seem the latter is the correct choice. Reply With Quote
    Feb 22, 2020 | 08:58 21 This is Trudeau's responsibility ....the effects of the blockade go across the country so its a federal issue....

    Its also his most important relationship as he said during the 2015 election campaign ...but has done nothing to fix it...


    If you are going to use that logic...then Kenney can approve the Teck oilsands project...

    Typical liberal ....put the responsibility on someone else....

    Trudeau relies on reactive politics not being proactive....there is no press for being proactive just a 10 second soundbite... Reply With Quote
    Feb 22, 2020 | 09:07 22
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    In other words the Liberal Frenchmen in Quebec are running out of propane.
    It is certainly worth noting that on Tuesday patience was the word of the day and that by Friday the words were that the blockades must come down. I would say the simple reality was the Liberal's looked at the public opinion polls and decided they better get on board. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 22, 2020 | 09:46 23 The saying goes : Be careful what you wish for. The Hereditary chiefs or royalty might find themselves out of jobs if true self government is implemented and the whole indigenous affairs system is scrapped. Indigenous people should be treated as Canadians with an indigenous heritage. Reply With Quote

  • Feb 22, 2020 | 12:54 24 I am just shocked how easy these indigenous people are folding at these blockades. On twitter its all abiut taking back all the land and chasing the european colonizers back across the pond and native warriors blah blah. Show up with a truck and throw their shit in the back and they give up and go home.

    This looks like a spoiled child at work. Throw a temper tantrum for a while until mom and dad crack down and then realize thats your meal ticket so better tow the line.
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    fjlip's Avatar Feb 22, 2020 | 13:11 25 "So how come Doug Ford hasn’t sent in the OPP? If the solution is so simple as enforcing the law then Ford should have done it before now!"

    That would be "DIRECTING" police like Liberals do, telling them NOT to take down a barricade/blockade!

    Rail a federal responsibility, Turdo can wear it. Keep the east blocked for a few more weeks. Just loving it! Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 22, 2020 | 14:13 26 So the small handful of chiefs that oppose pipelines and fossil fuels flew to Ontario/ Quebec for meetings ...... how ironic
    Last edited by furrowtickler; Feb 22, 2020 at 14:52.
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  • Feb 22, 2020 | 14:18 27
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    So the small handful of chiefs that oppose pipelines and fossil fuels flew to Ontario for meetings ...... how ironic
    They asked a chief yesterday about the use of fossil fuels and the chief didn't want to confuse the issue at hand. ...it was sort of funny to watch.... Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 22, 2020 | 14:26 28 As far as I am concerned negotiations with these guys are DOA. Not only do we have 620 different bands in this country with overlapping land claims they cant prove, we have Metis, status and non status, on reserve, off reserve, for economic development, and against economic development, and now we find out that there is another level of unelected unaccountable indigineous royalty above all that. There will be no way to placate anyone from this group from now on. Not even 100% unanimous agreement would be enough for any company to get in bed with these guys. Who knows who will come out of the woodwork.

    These guys just shot a double barrel off into both feet and their faces. Good one.

    I would make a grand deal with these guys. Indian act gets scuttled and the govt gets out of the native welfare business. In return gift them all reserve lands with a land settlement payout for each that they can do what they want with, buy more land, blow it whatever. They own and control all reserve lands, they get a courtesy phone call about any major developments on the rest and that's it. Supreme court has already ruled they have no veto. Done with it.
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Feb 22, 2020 | 14:49 29 That's the only way out once and for all.
    Not going to happen until we can't borrow anymore and maybe not everyone will be ok with their living standard to fall to an AISH level.
    Even then people will blame the govt.
    The slide will continue.
    Movement of talent and capital will continue south. And Trudeau will never have to eat mouldy cheese.

    It's amazing how we can agree with child psychologists regarding action.
    But in an exactly similar circumstance with a tribe, we bend right over.
    Who are they going to blockade when private capital gives up once and for all?? Lol.
    A generation of debate about an income project..
    We are truly very stupid. Reply With Quote

  • fjlip's Avatar Feb 22, 2020 | 19:21 30 "I would make a grand deal with these guys. Indian act gets scuttled and the govt gets out of the native welfare business. In return gift them all reserve lands with a land settlement payout for each that they can do what they want with, buy more land, blow it whatever. They own and control all reserve lands, they get a courtesy phone call about any major developments on the rest and that's it. Supreme court has already ruled they have no veto. Done with it."


    Great jazz you are PM material. Chretien started down that road in the 60's, old Turdo never implemented the recommendations. Reply With Quote