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    Canada World Debt Leader

    From Nat Post today;

    https://business.financialpost.com/executive/posthaste-canadas-world-leading-debt-could-be-its-downfall-in-global-downturn-report-warns Canada’s world-leading debt could be its downfall in global downturn, report warns

    How bad is our debt? Total credit for the non-financial sector in Canada as a proportion of GDP was 305.7% in the second quarter of 2019, according to the Bank for International Settlements. That’s higher than the average of Canada’s economic peers at 272.3%. Since 2008, that debt to GDP ratio has risen 32.5%, compared with an average rise of 13.8% in other advanced economies.

    #2
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    From Nat Post today;

    https://business.financialpost.com/executive/posthaste-canadas-world-leading-debt-could-be-its-downfall-in-global-downturn-report-warns Canada’s world-leading debt could be its downfall in global downturn, report warns

    How bad is our debt? Total credit for the non-financial sector in Canada as a proportion of GDP was 305.7% in the second quarter of 2019, according to the Bank for International Settlements. That’s higher than the average of Canada’s economic peers at 272.3%. Since 2008, that debt to GDP ratio has risen 32.5%, compared with an average rise of 13.8% in other advanced economies.
    Don’t worry , sunny days ahead and the budget will balance itself .
    Enter carbon tax to be ramped up 2-3x

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      #3
      i am not surprised at all with the way this government throws money away. There is nothing getting built and no mega projects going on. Stealing from our kids,grand kids and great grand kids so you can live the easy life is sicking and should be illegal!

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        #4
        You guys can't read...


        They aren't talking government debt.


        They are talking all debt - consumer debt. Business debt.

        Households led that “borrowing binge” with debt rising to 100.3% of Canada’s GDP, the highest of any nation except Denmark (115%) and nearly twice the G20 average of 59.5%. (In the United States it’s 75%).

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          #5
          Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
          You guys can't read...


          They aren't talking government debt.


          They are talking all debt - consumer debt. Business debt.
          Would it not be government policies that pushed people to borrow in the first place?

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            #6
            Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
            Would it not be government policies that pushed people to borrow in the first place?
            Always looking for a scape goat,greed,and want it now is more likely the driving force behind debt.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Horse View Post
              Always looking for a scape goat,greed,and want it now is more likely the driving force behind debt.
              You are right, has nothing to do with interest rates being held at artificially low rates.

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                #8
                You can see real estate debt.
                Fueled by low interest rates.

                But to carry debt on credit
                Cards for luxury items , vacations
                Or car repairs, at 20-30%
                You Can not blame Gov. For that.

                Nothing low interest there..
                Last edited by sawfly1; Jan 31, 2020, 04:57.

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                  #9
                  Canadian farmers have over $100 billion in farm debt! More debt than many countries that are considered basket cases. Farmers are also going to be in trouble if interest rates rise and inflation kicks in.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Canadian farmers have over $100 billion in farm debt! More debt than many countries that are considered basket cases. Farmers are also going to be in trouble if interest rates rise and inflation kicks in.
                    And had interest rates been raised 8-10 years ago, a lot of that debt wouldn't have been racked up. Machinery and land prices would also be a lot lower, thus helping even more. Raising the interest rates earlier was the smarter and less painful way to go. Just wasn't the popular decision.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Canadian farmers have over $100 billion in farm debt! More debt than many countries that are considered basket cases. Farmers are also going to be in trouble if interest rates rise and inflation kicks in.
                      Its an easy takeover once all the equity in farms is used up.....back to being a peasant ...then we become the Russia of the 60s and 70s.....the government should let it go until we are importing grain and then ask wtf?

                      Inflation hasn't quit on agriculture ...combine and header combos are nearing a million dollars...with grain the same price as when the combine cost a tenth of that million.......

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        Canadian farmers have over $100 billion in farm debt! More debt than many countries that are considered basket cases. Farmers are also going to be in trouble if interest rates rise and inflation kicks in.
                        There is $2T in consumer debt and another $2T in home mortgages out there. I would say another group will be in trouble first. Does a car or boat or house make any money? Farmer debt is a drop in the bucket compared to that.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jazz View Post
                          There is $2T in consumer debt and another $2T in home mortgages out there. I would say another group will be in trouble first. Does a car or boat or house make any money? Farmer debt is a drop in the bucket compared to that.
                          But home buyers are getting help from the government on their mortgages .....farmers that help drive an economy are not....

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Canadian farmers have over $100 billion in farm debt! More debt than many countries that are considered basket cases. Farmers are also going to be in trouble if interest rates rise and inflation kicks in.
                            simply a reflection of over inflated land values, sky rocketing machinery prices and inputs over the past decade. And you are very correct with interest rates.
                            also in most cases the larger the farms get the higher the debt load becomes.
                            "basket case" countries are not facing the same situation so that is not even a viable comparison.

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