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    For those of you who think US farmers are not in trouble

    5 Reasons Why Agriculture is in Worse Shape Than You Think

    By Dr. Jim Budzynski|December 6, 2019 


    With all the things that can go wrong with nature and markets, in order to be a long-term “aggie” you have to have a fair amount of optimism and be a “glass half full” person. However, despite my optimism about the long-term future of American agriculture, that glass is feeling “half empty” recently. My near-term pessimism is driven by a number of trends that seem likely to persist for several more years.

    1. Deglobalization

    Deglobalization is underway and the “Chimerica” marriage of convenience is headed for divorce. American corporations wanted to outsource manufacturing to drive higher profits. China wanted to develop their industrial infrastructure and still feed a huge population while millions moved from the countryside to work in factories in the city, which was facilitated by buying massive quantities of U.S. raw ag commodities. The marriage worked fine for a long time in meeting these objectives, but with a few unexpected side effects. The U.S. severely damaged its middle class by moving the highest paying blue-collar jobs abroad (enter populism), and China damaged their air, soil, and water quality through rapid (inadequately managed) industrialization. Oops.

    So now American industry is rapidly moving supply chains out of China to find lower cost alternatives or using automation to cost-effectively produce products back in the U.S. (closer to the markets). China wants to clean up their environment while moving up the value chain (into formerly U.S.-dominated technology markets) with their new middle-class consumers. They also clearly wish to escape the stifling grip of the U.S. dollar. Our “Phase I trade deal” is the start of hammering out the divorce terms. Note: Deciding how to wind things down is not the same as getting back together. Even though we may not be able to afford to “move out” immediately, the romance is clearly gone. The “trade war” is by no means over – rather than the beginning of the end, it sure looks more like the end of the beginning.

    2. Trade Politics

    Although politics and trade policy have never comfortably co-existed, the two have become intertwined to a level not seen since the 1920s (remember “Smoot-Hawley tariffs” from grade school?). I get MAGA, but the combined impact of rewiring NAFTA/USMCA, ongoing trade wars with China, EU, etc., and our withdrawal from the Trans Pacific Partnership is that the U.S. is quickly losing its reputation as a reliable ag commodity trading partner. The result? Brazil, Australia, Canada, and others are gaining market share from the U.S. in agricultural commodities (soybeans, corn, cotton, wheat).

    As an aside, have we forgotten we put Brazil in the soybean business with our 1972 export embargo to “contain domestic food inflation?” Our markets took 40 years to build, and they seem unlikely to “pop back” even if we decided we wanted to be a reliable trading partner again.

    Political conflict with China is now inseparable from trade, and every flashpoint in the debates over forced technology appropriation, Hong Kong, Taiwan, the South China Sea, or Muslim “re-education” camps can set our ag trade relations backward overnight. Note: Opposition to China on these topics seems to be the only things Democrats and Republicans agree upon these days. It doesn’t feel like we are going back to “just selling stuff” to China any time soon.

    3. Do the Math (Dead Pigs Don’t Eat)

    The trade wars have not only impacted the volume of sales, but the price. For most of the past five years U.S. soybean prices have been $10-12/bushel. Today as I write this, beans are $8.71/bushel, a decline of ~15%-30%. Forgive me for the back-of-the-envelope numbers, but if China buys 100 mm tons of beans a year (3.3 billion bushels) and the U.S. has 60% share, our $21.7 billion in 2017 soybean sales was at a price of about $10.85/bushel.

    If we assume about 70% of beans go into livestock feed (mostly pork), and the estimated 50%-60% swine herd death due to Asian swine flu are accurate, Chinese soybean demand has dropped perhaps 1.2 billion bushels/year! If the U.S. maintains 60% share (highly doubtful) at today’s price of $8.71, U.S. sales will drop to $11.3 billion, a 52% drop vs. 2017.

    How are we going to sell China the “$40-50 billion of ag products” I heard President Trump recently talk about? Does someone have a sharper pencil than me? I just can’t see how we get there. My gut says 2017 may go down as the historical “high water mark” in U.S. agricultural trade with China.

    4. Debt, Funny Money, and Farm Operating Leverage

    The globalization frenzy of the past 25 years was facilitated by a massive buildup in debt. In the 1960s to 1980s, global debt was about $40 trillion, roughly 100% of global GDP. Today, global debt is a whopping $250 trillion, or 320% of GDP. Most of this was heavily facilitated by central bank money printing and interest rate manipulation, led by the U.S. Federal Reserve. Now they are stuck.

    In addition to debt, central banks have created a bubble in virtually every asset class with artificially low interest rates. Every attempt to normalize rates (see Q4 2018) results in a market meltdown and debt market spasms. Apparently, the strategy now is to just keep pumping up the bubble until it spectacularly explodes. This is the strategy we used so successfully in 2001 and 2008. Great … good plan.

    In addition to dealing with the fixed costs of farming with lower export volumes, many other farm operating costs are also going up. Land prices are levitating above what farm economics justify. This is because acquisitive farmers are diluting their balance sheets, and non-farmers are searching for farmland investments that provide cash flow and risk mitigation in a “funny money” world. Fertilizer production cutbacks will put a floor under prices. Ag chem logistics and production costs are rising due to the reconfiguration of global supply chains. This has resulted in negative contribution margins for many growers. Maybe we can lose a little bit on every bushel and make it up on volume?

    5. Climate Change

    I do not know why weather patterns seem more volatile and extreme every year. Maybe it’s man made, maybe it’s not. But who cares? It’s still just as wet, dry, hot, or cold regardless of the cause. That variability means challenges planting, harvesting, or simply getting enough growing degree days to grow a crop (see 2019). Let’s quit wasting energy trying to assign blame and spend our energy trying to figure out how to increase the resilience of our systems to the variability that seems to be a reality for the foreseeable future. Genomics, biologics, equipment, and precision technology all have a role to play in breaking the code here.

    Agriculture: Taking One For The Team

    I am sorry to sound like a pessimistic glass-half-empty guy, but it sure feels like U.S. agriculture is the “tip of the spear” in a global repositioning of agriculture, economics, technology, climate, and politics. I agree with finally addressing many of the problems (intellectual property theft, human rights abuses, environmental protection) that we have studiously ignored for decades, but U.S. agriculture is going to take a big hit in this global rebalancing. Have we really thought this through?

    A big government check has kept (some of) us almost whole in 2019 but given our polarized economics we can’t count on that largesse continuing nearly as long as our challenges last. “Taking one for the team” is fine, but what if that pounding goes on for five years and the safety net fizzles out in three? Remember that most ag subsidies (except food stamps) are overwhelmingly spent in red states, and the Chinese (and some Democrats) have pretty transparently indicated they want to pressure the Republicans by making life harder for farmers who support them. I’m sure nothing could go wrong here.

    We must step back and accept that the world we all grew up is gone forever, and the one replacing it will have plenty of BIG challenges in the near term. That said, it will also create a lot of opportunities for people willing to truly get out of the box and realize that a new container altogether might be required to avoid that feeling that the glass is half full. Fasten your seat belts!

    #2
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    5 Reasons Why Agriculture is in Worse Shape Than You Think
    Ahh dml, you are so far behind the curve.

    Here is how it will work now.

    Friday was the first victory in the trade war. Whatever the Phase I deal is, the US won the first round. They have shown they don't need china and can created the conditions to sever trade with China if needed.

    China has not shown the same. They are just as dependent on the US consumer now as they have ever been. So they have a choice, either stimulate local consumption which will take massive debt and currency manipulations or try to keep whatever slice of the US consumer they can sans trade deal.

    As CNBC said on Friday, Chinese firms will start relocated to US soil to compete closer to the desired consumer. To do that, they need permits, financing, wall street, US banks, govt all on their side. Its going to be a lot easier to watch some of their spying on US soil. The price for that access to American institutions will be commodity purchases from the US farmer.

    The US just rewrote the next 100yrs of economic policy. Farmers will make out like bank once this period of uncertainty is over.

    Then they can start carving trumps face on Rushmore.

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      #3
      https://time.com/5736789/small-american-farmers-debt-crisis-extinction/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaig n=editorial&utm_term=business_&linkId=78393735&fbc lid=IwAR3EwFlS8PFlDR8d4rhfqe8aG384VqdKYLliLGB55NHJ MPGpfh0c2DxKEp0 https://time.com/5736789/small-american-farmers-debt-crisis-extinction/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaig n=editorial&utm_term=business_&linkId=78393735&fbc lid=IwAR3EwFlS8PFlDR8d4rhfqe8aG384VqdKYLliLGB55NHJ MPGpfh0c2DxKEp0

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        #4
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Ahh dml, you are so far behind the curve.

        Here is how it will work now.

        Friday was the first victory in the trade war. Whatever the Phase I deal is, the US won the first round. They have shown they don't need china and can created the conditions to sever trade with China if needed.

        China has not shown the same. They are just as dependent on the US consumer now as they have ever been. So they have a choice, either stimulate local consumption which will take massive debt and currency manipulations or try to keep whatever slice of the US consumer they can sans trade deal.

        As CNBC said on Friday, Chinese firms will start relocated to US soil to compete closer to the desired consumer. To do that, they need permits, financing, wall street, US banks, govt all on their side. Its going to be a lot easier to watch some of their spying on US soil. The price for that access to American institutions will be commodity purchases from the US farmer.

        The US just rewrote the next 100yrs of economic policy. Farmers will make out like bank once this period of uncertainty is over.

        Then they can start carving trumps face on Rushmore.
        Dream on. The future is the big population countries that’s where you want to sell. No none can afford American goods that’s why the Chinese flourished with all the manufacturing etc and so it will restart and explode when the toilet flusher expert is punted or in jail hopefully same cell as clinton. Lmao

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          #5
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          Then they can start carving trumps face on Rushmore.
          Too funny. Just like he was going to win the Nobel Peace prize for de-nuclearizing North Korea. Oh wait, they have more bombs than before and are testing missiles again and have heightened world presence because of Trump.
          Trump can't even get minor modifications of NAFTA radified and you think he is going to get a deal with China. Ha Ha Ha!
          And you think Friday was a breakthrough??? Because a Trump supporter says a deal is close yet the top negotiators are not even talking. At best we will see Trump cave on his implementing his planned increase in tariffs on the 15th.

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            #6
            U guys just don't get it. There will be no middle class revolution in china. It's had 30yrs to develop and nothing. The average middle class Chinese makes $10k a the average American $70k. They have nowhere the purchasing power US does. And when they get a little money they hoard it or buy real estate.

            Chinese govt blocked all our tech companies. Only companies allowed penetration to that market are fast food.

            This is a one way trade war and trump already won it. 54k manufacturing job they said were me never coming back.

            You guys should join the climate prediction club.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              U guys just don't get it. There will be no middle class revolution in china. It's had 30yrs to develop and nothing. The average middle class Chinese makes $10k a the average American $70k. They have nowhere the purchasing power US does. And when they get a little money they hoard it or buy real estate.

              Chinese govt blocked all our tech companies. Only companies allowed penetration to that market are fast food.

              This is a one way trade war and trump already won it. 54k manufacturing job they said were me never coming back.

              You guys should join the climate prediction club.
              Lmao!!!! China has the rest of the worldwide to trade with.. The toilet king just built a trade wall
              Around themselves. Handed Russia trade deals with China that us and the USA used to have its right there in plain sight.

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                #8
                As for the notion that China doesn't need the US consumer, the US consumer represents over 30% of the total world consumer dollars. Need to add the next 7 countries with the next largest consumer markets (China included), together to be bigger, and all the remaining 195 countries put together are barely larger than the US consumer market alone.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets

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                  #9
                  Jazz, some folks will simply refuse to understand so you can't help them. The US has long won China's trade war. Even the |President himself don't know how bigly he has won. I didn't think that he would pull it of this big but he did. Anyways was watching a U tube video of some farmers from SW Wisconsin harvest 260 bu corn. Darn that income tax. They can likely get $4US a bu for that at a river terminal this winter. Man I wish I could have trouble like that. All that trucking work. Check out how farms work on U tube. The US needs China for what again?
                  Last edited by ajl; Dec 9, 2019, 02:18.

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                    #10
                    It is starting to sink into the democrat heads in US. Pelosi now realizes that it is going to be very difficult to unseat Trump. They have no one who will be a match for him and history has taught strategists that people will vote for a strong economy - and strong it is. You just need to goto US and ask people on the street what they think. It is disgusting watching those loons continually whaling about impeachment, wasting millions and billions adding not one constructive note. Surprisingly, I actually read an article yesterday on CNN, yes CNN that showed the democrats crying and cracking. Trump set out to make American great, not with scare tactics or science fiction, but with strategic economic policy. Trump was determined to drain the swamp, to trounce the American elite, the very ones that are sooooo smart 🐖💨 and he has had a hell of a battle.
                    Last edited by sumdumguy; Dec 9, 2019, 05:43.

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                      #11
                      Trump just made the US consumer a Trillion dollars richer. I dont hear anything like that coming out of china. They picked the wrong fight and vastly overplayed their hand.

                      Trump hasnt even used his real hammers yet. He can ban companies and countries outright, attack the yuan, kick china out of WTO, block their access to capital and the biggest hammer of all is devalue the US dollar.

                      But US farmers are welcome to vote for Biden if they think this is so bad.

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                        #12
                        Anyone notice how Pelosi went after the media the other day when asked if she hated the president....

                        Quite a scolding.....but its ok for democrats to scold the media....she sounded like an old grandmother of the 60s.....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jazz View Post
                          Trump just made the US consumer a Trillion dollars richer. I dont hear anything like that coming out of china. They picked the wrong fight and vastly overplayed their hand.

                          Trump hasnt even used his real hammers yet. He can ban companies and countries outright, attack the yuan, kick china out of WTO, block their access to capital and the biggest hammer of all is devalue the US dollar.

                          But US farmers are welcome to vote for Biden if they think this is so bad.
                          Or we can just keep "selling them Canada", until it's too late.

                          We should be selling our resources(renewable and non).....not our ASSETS!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                            Or we can just keep "selling them Canada", until it's too late.

                            We should be selling our resources(renewable and non).....not our ASSETS!
                            We expensed money over in the middle east while allowing the Saudis to buy grain assets in Canada...what a great deal hey?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ajl View Post
                              Jazz, some folks will simply refuse to understand so you can't help them. The US has long won China's trade war...... The US needs China for what again?
                              why US farmers need China and the US is actually losing the trade war. excerpt from Agricultural Economics Insights today.

                              …"The current China/U.S. trade war is obviously weighing heavily on the U.S. farm sector. From an economic perspective, there are a few key things that can be concluded. First, let’s consider who loses in the trade war. The most obvious losers are U.S. farm producers who are losing access to a large and growing marketplace for their products. While other countries will fill the market and U.S. soybeans will flow to other markets, the transaction and transportation costs associated with realigning the movement of agricultural products to other markets are significant and will ultimately be borne by U.S. producers.

                              The other major losers in the trade dispute are Chinese buyers of U.S. ag exports. These buyers are now forced to find other more expensive places to purchase their products. In the case of soybeans, this is particularly difficult as the Chinese demand accounts for nearly all the remaining exportable soybean supplies in the world. In short, the trade war has the impact of increasing commodity prices in China, which in turn reduces overall demand.

                              On the other side of the ledger, the clear winners in this dispute are all other nations that are capable of exporting agricultural goods to China. These producers will increasingly find that prices for their commodities are higher and will be further incentivized to add to production capacity. Additionally, other countries that import agricultural goods should see the benefit of reduced prices on U.S. agricultural goods.

                              As we move forward, the China/U.S. trade dispute is causing a major disruption in the economics of agricultural production around the world. In the long-term, the most concerning impact is that it is further encouraging an expansion of agricultural production around the world, but in particular South America. As these additional production resources come on-line, it will likely add to already burdensome supplies and may produce a supply overhang that will last well after the trade dispute’s resolution.

                              It is clear that U.S. agricultural producers and farmland owners would benefit from a resolution of the trade war. Whether a resolution is forthcoming is difficult to predict. It seems that the finish line of the negotiations is perpetually moving further from sight. The uncertainty associated with the trade war is substantial. It is unclear how or when it will be resolved. Furthermore, one has to wonder how long it would take to realize any potential benefits, or wins, from a resolution. If the trade war were to last indefinitely, one should expect major pain and realignment in the U.S. farm sector, particularly in the row crop sectors. These producers will be forced to continue to change commodity mixes and realign production. This will be economically painful. If the situation persists the government will be required to continue to make large “adjustment” outlays to agriculture, or see farm incomes sink."

                              The entire article is worth considering and for those Trumpets willing to challenge your bias go to https://aei.ag/2019/12/08/trade-war-continues-to-weigh-on-u-s-agriculture/?utm_source=Agricultural+Economic+Insights&utm_cam paign=56d524d681-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_15_02_36_COPY_01&utm_medium =email&utm_term=0_6f5fb3d56c-56d524d681-449769685 https://aei.ag/2019/12/08/trade-war-continues-to-weigh-on-u-s-agriculture/?utm_source=Agricultural+Economic+Insights&utm_cam paign=56d524d681-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_15_02_36_COPY_01&utm_medium =email&utm_term=0_6f5fb3d56c-56d524d681-449769685 to read full article
                              Last edited by dmlfarmer; Dec 9, 2019, 08:00.

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