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    has Trump given up on China trade deal for now

    Yesterday at NATO meeting Trump said:
    “In some ways I like the idea of waiting until after the election for the China deal,” Mr. Trump said, adding that he had “no deadline” for reaching an accord.

    So much for trade wars being easy to win or that a phase one deal was close!

    #2
    Every day that the trade war goes on, pushed China that much closer to an economic and demographic cliff from which it cannot recover, and pushes the US that much closer to world energy dominance from which the rest of the world will never recover. Why the rush? And imagine a politician who is willing to defer something that he could otherwise take credit for into the next term, possibly for someone else to get all the credit?

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      #3
      Trade wars are easy to win. The Moron in chief will say only he can win a trade deal with another term. The truth is nobody wins trade wars .

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        #4
        Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
        Trade wars are easy to win. The Moron in chief will say only he can win a trade deal with another term. The truth is nobody wins trade wars .
        Nobody wins, but some will lose a lot worse than others

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          #5
          You mean you just lose one hand while your opponent loses two. Brilliant!!

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            #6
            In a good trade negotiation both sides win but Dumbo will take his toys home before he would allow that.

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              #7
              Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
              In a good trade negotiation both sides win but Dumbo will take his toys home before he would allow that.
              The war is over. What was wanted to be accomplished, was done early. If you are still expecting results, you haven't figured it out. How it is, is how it will be. There's no going back. This is the new normal. Globalization is dead

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                #8
                china will not be allowed to make critical technology and embed it in our system. So they better go back to making kids tots before that market is gone too. US companies will start repatriating and Trump will devalue the dollar.

                This is over they just don't know it yet.
                By agstar could use an economics education.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                  The war is over. What was wanted to be accomplished, was done early. If you are still expecting results, you haven't figured it out. How it is, is how it will be. There's no going back. This is the new normal. Globalization is dead
                  Piqued my interest - I'm listening...

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                    #10
                    Globalization is dead

                    Waiting for Climate Cult to implode....hurry the F*CK up! Most sickening topic ever perpetrated on mankind!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                      The war is over. What was wanted to be accomplished, was done early. If you are still expecting results, you haven't figured it out. How it is, is how it will be. There's no going back. This is the new normal. Globalization is dead
                      Globalization may be dead for the U.S., but not for the rest of the world. Major Asian trade deal has been signed. If you think you can remain a super power without trade and innovation from abroad . . . Go for it. The market will decide who’s right, not politicians.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                        Globalization may be dead for the U.S., but not for the rest of the world. Major Asian trade deal has been signed. If you think you can remain a super power without trade and innovation from abroad . . . Go for it. The market will decide who’s right, not politicians.
                        If the rest of the world thinks they can make it without the American consumer, dollar, financing and protecting energy and shipping lanes with their air craft carriers they should go for it.

                        200m US consumers have more wealth and disposable income than 2B Chinese and East Indians. They have a long way to go. Meanwhile fighting a demographic and debt bomb.

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                          #13
                          What happened when the U.S. cut off materials to Japan? If you push a rat into a corner, one with nuclear weapons, what could go wrong? China should be reigned in but in a way we can all live with.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                            What happened when the U.S. cut off materials to Japan? If you push a rat into a corner, one with nuclear weapons, what could go wrong? China should be reigned in but in a way we can all live with.
                            What's your point?

                            Wasn't that when the USA became the superpower and Europe and UK lost all their empires?

                            Maybe I have my history wrong?

                            Japan changed a little bit too.

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