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Oct 12, 2019 | 19:04 1 I see the Gov. has declared a state of emergency due to hydro outages. We've been lucky enough not to have lost power this time. I spent the day hauling feed out to cattle on summer pasture miles from home. Listening to the radio was infuriating - all about how soon the streets in Winnipeg would get cleared and whether they would open a depot to take branches knocked down by the snow. Not a mention of it's affect on agriculture. The dire state crop farmers are now in with harvest and we could have an animal emergency very quickly unless this melts. I got to all my cows but most grazing in this area belong to owners a distance away and with all the roads plugged there is no way to get to them if they wanted to.
I guess nothing qualifies as an emergency in agriculture nowadays. Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 12, 2019 | 19:14 2 No grass , were on our own
    Man thats the shits
    Sure feel for you guys
    Hope you get a break soon , sure been a tough year for you folks to go from a full on drought to this shit
    Good luck and i know exactly how it feels , at least the too wet part and early snow
    Leaves one feeling guilty cause were so used to it in these parts
    Dont know how we managed to get the weather we did this fall, deep in the swamp , very strange
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    Oct 12, 2019 | 19:17 3 Gotta coupla hundred geese in my field now. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 07:15 4 Grass

    "I guess nothing qualifies as an emergency in agriculture nowaday"

    As a fellow Manitoban this storm has been very tough on all of us.


    Agriculture here in the province should be getting some attention as all rural Ag areas that have been effected the worst are represented by Conservative MLA's!

    They sure knew all their Farmer constituents a few weeks ago before the provincial election.

    Let's hope the Conservative MLA's show the same amount of energy they had while trying to get votes!!! Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 13, 2019 | 07:24 5
    Quote Originally Posted by foragefarmer View Post
    Grass

    "I guess nothing qualifies as an emergency in agriculture nowaday"

    As a fellow Manitoban this storm has been very tough on all of us.


    Agriculture here in the province should be getting some attention as all rural Ag areas that have been effected the worst are represented by Conservative MLA's!

    They sure knew all their Farmer constituents a few weeks ago before the provincial election.

    Let's hope the Conservative MLA's show the same amount of energy they had while trying to get votes!!!
    They won't. .. Reply With Quote

  • Oct 13, 2019 | 07:28 6 If they don’t do something right across the board for ag I rhe west provinces they sure don’t deserve our farm or rural vote. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 07:35 7
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    If they don’t do something right across the board for ag I rhe west provinces they sure don’t deserve our farm or rural vote.
    There is no federal conservative agriculture policy.....just a few non commitment lines in the platform. ...not enough to have a vote taken for granted....

    Vote on blind faith and get nothing....send a real message and vote for someone else.... Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 07:38 8
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    There is no federal conservative agriculture policy.....just a few non commitment lines in the platform. ...not enough to have a vote taken for granted....

    Vote on blind faith and get nothing....send a real message and vote for someone else....
    As crazy as it would be the best thing is vote liberal or ndp get the conservatives ousted for one term in western Canada we d have to endure the social policies but ag wise would be no different. Then next time around you bet they’d come asking what’s really needed Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 07:55 9
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    As crazy as it would be the best thing is vote liberal or ndp get the conservatives ousted for one term in western Canada we d have to endure the social policies but ag wise would be no different. Then next time around you bet they’d come asking what’s really needed
    Scheer pledged his support of the supply management payout early and hasn't gained shit in Quebec....Now he has to ask the separatists to back him in a minority government....

    Meanwhile Scheer and the conservative candidates ignore what is happening in Western Canadian agriculture...and some are farmers....obviously making more enjoying being Ottawa's whipping boys than doing something for farmers...
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    Oct 13, 2019 | 08:11 10 This may rank as one of the worst storms ever to hit Manitoba and North Dakota in terms of damage to crops and infrastructure.

    Unfortunately most governments and organizations don't have the immediate resources to deal with a disaster of this magnitude.

    Providing financial compensation for this disaster is what will be needed in the long run. Farmers and organizations need to get together and ask for it otherwise it won't likely happen.

    Happening before a long weekend is just bad luck and adds to the delay and inaction.

    The increasing severity and frequency of weather events is what climate scientists have been saying will happen because of climate change. I am not prepared to call any particular event a result of climate change, but when record severe events frequently happen, then maybe we need to acknowledge the warnings.

    And before you jump all over me, climate change includes stalled persistent weather patterns that can include colder than normal temperatures and increased precipitation events. Climate scientists are seeing changes due weakening to jet streams. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 08:12 11 Might have to go back to Europe if you need someone to hold your hand while you get shit on.

    Grand Forks was ringing the alarm bells about this storm for over a week ahead of time. Prudent people remember the Atlas Storm in 2013 and were prepared. Everyone else has to learn the hard way I guess.

    It will always be a competition between Ma Nature and Government as to who hates the Canuck farmer the most. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 08:16 12
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    And before you jump all over me, climate change includes stalled persistent weather patterns that can include colder than normal temperatures and increased precipitation events. Climate scientists are seeing changes due weakening to jet streams.
    Cmon, nobody is going to fall for that. So cant prove warming, we will fall back to calling every event climate change. What are climate scientists seeing from their university office windows? Lets see the models on that.

    Is GSM climate change? because that's a way better explanation for a pattern that's been going on for 5 months. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 08:20 13 Meanwhile every other industry goes to government with their hand out and comes home with their cap full....

    And some of these industries are already lubing farmers pretty well....railways got a new deal a few years back....some graincos ( AGT and P&H ) have had direct handouts...Evraz a russian steel company gets their fair share of the 2 billion steel and aluminum money promised...etc etc etc... Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 08:59 14 Grassfarmer, hope somehow things turn around and you get your work done and the cattle stay healthy and get fed. Reply With Quote

  • Oct 13, 2019 | 09:01 15
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    This may rank as one of the worst storms ever to hit Manitoba and North Dakota in terms of damage to crops and infrastructure.

    Unfortunately most governments and organizations don't have the immediate resources to deal with a disaster of this magnitude.

    Providing financial compensation for this disaster is what will be needed in the long run. Farmers and organizations need to get together and ask for it otherwise it won't likely happen.

    Happening before a long weekend is just bad luck and adds to the delay and inaction.

    The increasing severity and frequency of weather events is what climate scientists have been saying will happen because of climate change. I am not prepared to call any particular event a result of climate change, but when record severe events frequently happen, then maybe we need to acknowledge the warnings.

    And before you jump all over me, climate change includes stalled persistent weather patterns that can include colder than normal temperatures and increased precipitation events. Climate scientists are seeing changes due weakening to jet streams.
    Breaking news!
    In some areas of the province farmers have wrapped up harvest. All thanks to climate change!! Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 09:25 16
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Scheer pledged his support of the supply management payout early and hasn't gained shit in Quebec....Now he has to ask the separatists to back him in a minority government....

    Meanwhile Scheer and the conservative candidates ignore what is happening in Western Canadian agriculture...and some are farmers....obviously making more enjoying being Ottawa's whipping boys than doing something for farmers...
    has scheer even mentioned increasing the agristab coverage back to 85% from 70%? yet he supports quebec dairy farmers are their milking of billions of subsidies. Even for the conservatives, its all about kebec and Toronto. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 09:39 17
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    This may rank as one of the worst storms ever to hit Manitoba and North Dakota in terms of damage to crops and infrastructure.

    Unfortunately most governments and organizations don't have the immediate resources to deal with a disaster of this magnitude.

    Providing financial compensation for this disaster is what will be needed in the long run. Farmers and organizations need to get together and ask for it otherwise it won't likely happen.

    Happening before a long weekend is just bad luck and adds to the delay and inaction.

    The increasing severity and frequency of weather events is what climate scientists have been saying will happen because of climate change. I am not prepared to call any particular event a result of climate change, but when record severe events frequently happen, then maybe we need to acknowledge the warnings.

    And before you jump all over me, climate change includes stalled persistent weather patterns that can include colder than normal temperatures and increased precipitation events. Climate scientists are seeing changes due weakening to jet streams.
    Get a grip, FFS Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 13, 2019 | 09:57 18
    Quote Originally Posted by grassfarmer View Post
    I see the Gov. has declared a state of emergency due to hydro outages. We've been lucky enough not to have lost power this time. I spent the day hauling feed out to cattle on summer pasture miles from home. Listening to the radio was infuriating - all about how soon the streets in Winnipeg would get cleared and whether they would open a depot to take branches knocked down by the snow. Not a mention of it's affect on agriculture. The dire state crop farmers are now in with harvest and we could have an animal emergency very quickly unless this melts. I got to all my cows but most grazing in this area belong to owners a distance away and with all the roads plugged there is no way to get to them if they wanted to.
    I guess nothing qualifies as an emergency in agriculture nowadays.

    Storms like these in April have killed lots of cattle and calves. Good thing the calves are half-grown.

    I also remember storms like this on Halloween. We would cancel trick or treating and have halloween in the gym-hall.
    Last edited by sumdumguy; Oct 13, 2019 at 10:50. Reason: Wording
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    Oct 13, 2019 | 10:58 19 Have seen heavy fall and spring snowstorms similar to this track north over our area of eastern Saskatchewan in past years, a bigger concern now because of late harvest. About three inches of snow on ground now so still a pretty good chance of getting crop off before winter.
    The one time we did have crop out it was wheat in swath and took 80% off in spring with little adverse effect, turned cattle into other 20% because of deer damage, which is no longer an option since we are out of cattle.
    Farm does have good Agristability coverage and province has wildlife damage compensation so things should be better than before these programs.
    Accrual accounting means we have to put a value on unharvested crop at year end and ultimate value will not be known until next year.
    Remember last time putting no value on unharvested crop and it made profit for that year look worse and, eventually, for new year look better. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 13:14 20 Best of luck with that stupid program
    Harper and ritz gutted it Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 15:01 21 I guess politicians really do follow Agriville - I had one show up today to take a look around.

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  • Oct 13, 2019 | 15:18 22
    Quote Originally Posted by grassfarmer View Post
    I guess politicians really do follow Agriville - I had one show up today to take a look around.

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    That poor chryster must wonder whats goin on Reply With Quote
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  • Oct 13, 2019 | 19:58 23 They got it wrong. It should have read, Manitoba province of emergency.

    Statehood would be my second choice behind carving out my own state. Reply With Quote
    Oct 13, 2019 | 21:35 24 Friends step son lives in Portage La Prairie and was told by Manitoba Hydro that estimated time to power restored will be 7 days for him. Reply With Quote