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Sep 17, 2019 | 10:33 1 Someone please post when you hear what they are going to do about our issues.

Agristability
Trade losses that apparently might not be lost at all grain cos are sending pulses and canola to China via other countries. What price are they getting? What volume?
Seed tax
Foreign ownership
Input costs
Crop insurance Reply With Quote
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 17, 2019 | 11:08 2 .....fast track the Seed tax.
    Vote Conservative if you want to pay more to farm.

    ****, I'm beginning to sound like wiseguy! Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 17, 2019 | 11:41 3
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    .....fast track the Seed tax.
    Vote Conservative if you want to pay more to farm.

    ****, I'm beginning to sound like wiseguy!
    You are a wisenheimer Reply With Quote
    farmaholic's Avatar Sep 17, 2019 | 12:46 4
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    You are a wisenheimer
    Nein! Reply With Quote
    Sep 17, 2019 | 13:16 5 Positive:
    No carbon tax. This is adding up already after the first few fills of propane! Reply With Quote
    Sep 17, 2019 | 13:48 6 Waiting for the WCWGA to give them advice from their masters/sponsors....??????

    Thats the only logical explanation as to why we don't have mandatory sales reporting in an open market...because the masters don't want it...
    Last edited by bucket; Sep 17, 2019 at 13:57.
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  • helmsdale's Avatar Sep 17, 2019 | 14:14 7
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    .....fast track the Seed tax.
    Vote Conservative if you want to pay more to farm.

    ****, I'm beginning to sound like wiseguy!
    See, the trick is, you gotta let go of a few benjamins, and hope like hell they find a few friends to bring home... Reply With Quote
    farmaholic's Avatar Sep 17, 2019 | 23:13 8
    Quote Originally Posted by helmsdale View Post
    See, the trick is, you gotta let go of a few benjamins, and hope like hell they find a few friends to bring home...
    Spend Benjamins lose Clevelands!

    I don't need a SeedTax to lose more money trying to grow a profitable crop, there's already enough ways. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2019 | 06:15 9 How do you justify a seed tax on durum that last week went from 1cwad to feed in 4 days....


    And very few didn't get a downgrade....What is a 1cwad will be treated like a leper because there isn't enough to fill a train and they don't want to pay what it is worth .... Reply With Quote
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  • SASKFARMER's Avatar Sep 18, 2019 | 06:29 10 What I want.

    SEED TAX shoved so far up the seed companies ass it hurts — stupid corporate welfare.

    Better Crop insurance.

    Shove the AG Stab up every single one who thinks its good.

    Keep Ag Invest.

    Private property laws. Get the **** off my land unless you ask for permission.

    Charge protestors who enter ag Barns etc. Charge and 10,000.00 fine for each one.

    Just a few. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 18, 2019 | 06:45 11
    Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER View Post
    What I want.

    SEED TAX shoved so far up the seed companies ass it hurts — stupid corporate welfare.

    Better Crop insurance.

    Shove the AG Stab up every single one who thinks its good.

    Keep Ag Invest.

    Private property laws. Get the **** off my land unless you ask for permission.

    Charge protestors who enter ag Barns etc. Charge and 10,000.00 fine for each one.

    Just a few.
    Ag Invest was set back to 1% ...it used to be 3% and today it should be 5% given the costs government has implemented....

    Maybe you could ask Ralph about putting the same amount they charge farmers for carbon tax into Ag Invest....with a taxable deduction to boot..

    How about mandatory sales reporting....Its odd but all the good wheat the elevators had for blending was sold to the chinese at a discount....Elevators make their money on handling and some on speculation....well now because no one was reporting they have all fu cked themselves because the whole crop is downgraded...sometimes you have to implement rules to protect companies from themselves....

    Everyones margins have been going downing calculated steps in agristability ..there will never be a payment from that program...unless you have a bunch of people working it on the same operation...I think thats how it works...Jim lowers his margin...then Jack ...then Joe ...each of them get a payment by taking turns...MNP loves that operation...good fees you know....its a fu cking scam...


    Make no mistake though...the conservatives don't give a shit about agriculture either...lip service is all they will do...

    I do think every one of the protestors should be fined individually....not 10000 but more like 100000 and then they could go ask the people paying for them for the cash and fine them as well....if that operation lost a turn of revenue due to sick animals who would pay????

    Do your protesting at the grocery store where it won't hurt a frozen turkey...AND Galen Weston will put a stop to it right quick...
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 18, 2019 | 07:07 12
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post

    Everyones margins have been going downing calculated steps in agristability ..there will never be a payment from that program...unless you have a bunch of people working it on the same operation...I think thats how it works...Jim lowers his margin...then Jack ...then Joe ...each of them get a payment by taking turns...MNP loves that operation...good fees you know....its a fu cking scam...


    Make no mistake though...the conservatives don't give a shit about agriculture either...lip service is all they will do...
    No way. To both Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 07:31 13
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    No way. To both
    Explain that comment....I don't know if you agree with my comment or would like to have a discussion about it? Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 07:37 14
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Explain that comment....I don't know if you agree with my comment or would like to have a discussion about it?
    He’s practicing to run for the sask party ag minister material. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 07:43 15
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    He’s practicing to run for the sask party ag minister material.
    If thats the case... OK then...he would be a considerable improvement Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2019 | 07:52 16 First off farmers need to in some way present ourselves as a disadvantaged minority because unless you are indigenous or LGBTQ you get no attention with such small voting numbers. Also while some are pissed at the Conservatives remember the federal NDP and federal Green's have the support of 25% of decided voters according to recent polls. Have any of you studied their policies? How many of you think you can continue to prosper under a Trudeau minority propped up by either the NDP or Green's? Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 07:59 17
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    First off farmers need to in some way present ourselves as a disadvantaged minority because unless you are indigenous or LGBTQ you get no attention with such small voting numbers. Also while some are pissed at the Conservatives remember the federal NDP and federal Green's have the support of 25% of decided voters according to recent polls. Have any of you studied their policies? How many of you think you can continue to prosper under a Trudeau minority propped up by either the NDP or Green's?
    True....so the answer is vote conservative....and

    A. don't get represented in Ottawa
    B. Get shit on as a western canadian farmer
    C. Get less but still be expected to help the economy by spending on inputs that are not regulated
    D. all of the above...

    But if you vote for the other 3 parties you get the same...so...what is the difference???? Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 18, 2019 | 08:04 18
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    True....so the answer is vote conservative....and

    A. don't get represented in Ottawa
    B. Get shit on as a western canadian farmer
    C. Get less but still be expected to help the economy by spending on inputs that are not regulated
    D. all of the above...

    But if you vote for the other 3 parties you get the same...so...what is the difference????
    On item C. Bucket what type of regulation are you talking about on inputs? Price regulation? Certainly lots of regulation in regards to pesticides already exists. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 08:10 19
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    On item C. Bucket what type of regulation are you talking about on inputs? Price regulation? Certainly lots of regulation in regards to pesticides already exists.
    Collusion in the fertilizer industry...

    Fuel collusion...tell me how Co-op fuel prices can be impacted by the bombing in Saudi Arabia....but it will be....its an excuse to gouge...

    And when chemicals don't work as applied by the book ...there is only one person that pays....

    Dessica worked like shit ...applied properly ....and the excuse was the weather....could have cost me the lentils crop but I took them off a little tough before the kochia continued to grow more....

    A lot of guys applied in crop chemical that worked like shit.... Reply With Quote
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 18, 2019 | 08:14 20
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Explain that comment....I don't know if you agree with my comment or would like to have a discussion about it?
    110% sarcasm intended. Reply With Quote
    farmaholic's Avatar Sep 18, 2019 | 08:16 21
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    If thats the case... OK then...he would be a considerable improvement
    Coming from you,.... am I supposed to be flattered.

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    Sep 18, 2019 | 17:22 22 Part of the Conservative's ag policy:

    https://wheatgrowers.ca/advocacy-res...alue-creation/ Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 17:35 23 [QUOTE=farmaholic;424123]Coming from you,.... am I supposed to be flattered.



    Well...I thought you might be..pretty thenthitive these days????? Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 18:53 24 These protestors should be automatically quarantined for 90 days. Have they been in a foreign country doing the same? One that has disease issues. As far as I'm concerned a barn should be as secure as a vault. With the traceability concerns and fear over safe food supply this should be automatic Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 22:32 25
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Collusion in the fertilizer industry...

    Fuel collusion...tell me how Co-op fuel prices can be impacted by the bombing in Saudi Arabia....but it will be....its an excuse to gouge...

    And when chemicals don't work as applied by the book ...there is only one person that pays....

    Dessica worked like shit ...applied properly ....and the excuse was the weather....could have cost me the lentils crop but I took them off a little tough before the kochia continued to grow more....

    A lot of guys applied in crop chemical that worked like shit....
    There is no doubt that an oligopoly exists in the Canadian fertilizer industry, but I am curious how you feel Government could change that. As far as agricultural chemicals go these are large foreign companies, again not sure how Canadian governments could affect change.

    As for Diquat, used it for the first time this year, used Guardian on yellow peas. Seemed to work fine on the peas, didn't do a damn thing on the wild oats in the peas. Usually use glyphosate and heat or glyphosate alone, works slower but certainly does a better job. All are certainly a better alternative than swathing. Swathed some barley 16 days ago, still laying there not dry fml! Reply With Quote
    Sep 19, 2019 | 06:06 26
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    There is no doubt that an oligopoly exists in the Canadian fertilizer industry, but I am curious how you feel Government could change that. As far as agricultural chemicals go these are large foreign companies, again not sure how Canadian governments could affect change.

    As for Diquat, used it for the first time this year, used Guardian on yellow peas. Seemed to work fine on the peas, didn't do a damn thing on the wild oats in the peas. Usually use glyphosate and heat or glyphosate alone, works slower but certainly does a better job. All are certainly a better alternative than swathing. Swathed some barley 16 days ago, still laying there not dry fml!

    Do you remember when fertilizer prices were linked to the price of natural gas....because it was the main input for nitrogen fertilizer?


    Well natural gas has been basically been given away for years now. ...

    Now the excuse is the price at NOLA...well we are self sufficient in nitrogen ...as a matter of fact we export it to the northern tier states....it doesn't need a fake trip to NOLA to add 200 a tonne....

    Potash is cheaper in India than it is 90 minutes from the plant it's made at Belle Plaine ....now the excuse is they buy big volumes...

    Production costs at a potash plant are probably at 200 a tonne ...the rest is gouging....

    Urea production costs are probably lower yet....full out gouging....

    No one reviews these things....

    And yet as a primary producer I can't charge back my production costs....

    As an aside comment....when the Westons were price fixing bread prices they were making billions off western Canadian farms....they made all their costs back on a loaf plus profit plus they decided they needed a little extra...no fine....because they admitted it....

    Every industry has taken a page from that playbook. .... Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 29, 2019 | 22:16 27
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    Someone please post when you hear what they are going to do about our issues.

    Agristability
    Trade losses that apparently might not be lost at all grain cos are sending pulses and canola to China via other countries. What price are they getting? What volume?
    Seed tax
    Foreign ownership
    Input costs
    Crop insurance
    As far as I'm concerned a barn should be as secure as a vault. With the traceability concerns and fear over safe food supply this should be automatic Reply With Quote Reply With Quote