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helmsdale's Avatar Sep 10, 2019 | 22:15 1 So I'm sitting here today thinking that of all the days Trudeau could have called an election, why would he choose the 11th of September?

And then Bob Fife drops a globe and mail article into my Twitter feed saying that the RCMP have been actively investigating and interviewing individuals in regard to the possibility of obstruction of justice with respect to JWR and the SNC Lavalin Scandal.

Best part? They're obstructing an RCMP investigation into obstruction of justice by refusing to wave cabinet confidentiality, thereby sealing the lips of any of the witnesses queried by the RCMP.

Surely, Telford et al. knew this story was going to drop...

How to damage control this thing?

Drop the writ, and
1)force the RCMP to suspend an active investigation into a politically sensitive matter lest they be percieved as politically biased.
2) get ahead of it and attempt to control the narrative tomorrow. Suffocate Fife and the G&M article by starving it off oxygen in the short term.

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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 22:55 2 Well what can I say. If there was nothing to hide this would have gone away in February. Time to dig a little deeper into the Admiral Norman case as well. I can smell the stink all the way out in Alberta from Ottawa. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 23:09 3 Who ever makes the decision to lay charges in the SNC scandel will be considered " gutsy " to say the least, but as Trudeau has said," we must maintain the rule of law in Canada ", so indirectly he has given the nod to prosecutors to proceed with charges. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 23:16 4 CTV News reports that a Nanos Poll reveals that 35% of Canadians feel that Trudeau was either justified, or somewhat justified in breaking ethics rules in the SNC-L affair. 7% unsure 52% of Quebecers support breaking the rules to “save jobs”

    So much for being a moral country. I don't have high hopes of the Liberals being shown the door. If it feels good, do it, seems to be our identity. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 23:32 5
    Quote Originally Posted by macdon02 View Post
    CTV News reports that a Nanos Poll reveals that 35% of Canadians feel that Trudeau was either justified, or somewhat justified in breaking ethics rules in the SNC-L affair. 7% unsure 52% of Quebecers support breaking the rules to “save jobs”

    So much for being a moral country. I don't have high hopes of the Liberals being shown the door. If it feels good, do it, seems to be our identity.
    If the average guy would have contacted a judge or prosecutor in a legal process, he would already have had numerous questionable dates in the shower room at the local penitentiary by now. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2019 | 02:46 6 And on the anniversary of 9-11 Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2019 | 06:54 7 All this talk about ethics, and yesterday global news revealed over the last 4 years 4.5 million of taxpayer dollars was spend by MPs for spouse air travel. 6 MPs spent over $100,000 for airline tickets for their spouses; 5 of whom are Conservative MPs. Only 1 ex-Liberal made the list - the hero of this forum: Jody Wilson Raybould. Eleven more MPs spent between 50,000 and 99,999 and of those 6 were Conservatives, 1 NDP, and just 4 Liberals. Ethics is not a new problem or just a Liberal problem. Jason Kenney when an MP once charged taxpayer's $6,000 to fly his mother from Calgary to Ottawa on this same program and is now Premier of Alberta.
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/5876674/t..._campaign=2015
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    Sep 11, 2019 | 07:02 8 I would pay a lot of money to send some to the moon. ✅ Reply With Quote
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 11, 2019 | 07:14 9
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    All this talk about ethics, and yesterday global news revealed over the last 4 years 4.5 million of taxpayer dollars was spend by MPs for spouse air travel. 6 MPs spent over $100,000 for airline tickets for their spouses; 5 of whom are Conservative MPs. Only 1 ex-Liberal made the list - the hero of this forum: Jody Wilson Raybould. Eleven more MPs spent between 50,000 and 99,999 and of those 6 were Conservatives, 1 NDP, and just 4 Liberals. Ethics is not a new problem or just a Liberal problem. Jason Kenney when an MP once charged taxpayer's $6,000 to fly his mother from Calgary to Ottawa on this same program and is now Premier of Alberta.
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    I wonder if distance to the Hill has anything to do with it. Or if they sat in committee. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 11, 2019 | 07:28 10
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    I wonder if distance to the Hill has anything to do with it. Or if they sat in committee.
    I am trying to figure out how that is remotely related to a groping, lying, idiotic, law breaking prime minister? Reply With Quote

  • Sep 11, 2019 | 07:34 11
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    I am trying to figure out how that is remotely related to a groping, lying, idiotic, law breaking prime minister?
    It’s not but dmlfarmer would like to change the channel when Skippy is in the limelight with his scandals, right out of the Liberal playbook.

    Interesting to see how aggressive the RCMP get in these two obstruction of justice investigations with Trudeau. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2019 | 07:38 12
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    It’s not but dmlfarmer would like to change the channel when Skippy is in the limelight with his scandals, right out of the Liberal playbook.

    Interesting to see how aggressive the RCMP get in these two obstruction of justice investigations with Trudeau.
    SurprisedTrump never got blamed for something there .... lol ... but he will by one of the three stooges Reply With Quote
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    Sep 11, 2019 | 08:10 13
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    All this talk about ethics, and yesterday global news revealed over the last 4 years 4.5 million of taxpayer dollars was spend by MPs for spouse air travel. 6 MPs spent over $100,000 for airline tickets for their spouses; 5 of whom are Conservative MPs. Only 1 ex-Liberal made the list - the hero of this forum: Jody Wilson Raybould. Eleven more MPs spent between 50,000 and 99,999 and of those 6 were Conservatives, 1 NDP, and just 4 Liberals. Ethics is not a new problem or just a Liberal problem. Jason Kenney when an MP once charged taxpayer's $6,000 to fly his mother from Calgary to Ottawa on this same program and is now Premier of Alberta.
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/5876674/t..._campaign=2015
    Do you think maybe there is a connection between travel costs and distance to travel?? Gonna be cheaper for a liberal MP in Ontario to travel to Ottawa than someone from the other end of the country. Just saying maybe you need to look at the whole picture. All the examples in the image are AB and BC representatives. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2019 | 08:18 14
    Quote Originally Posted by GDR View Post
    Do you think maybe there is a connection between travel costs and distance to travel?? Gonna be cheaper for a liberal MP in Ontario to travel to Ottawa than someone from the other end of the country. Just saying maybe you need to look at the whole picture. All the examples in the image are AB and BC representatives.
    It is cheaper to fly from Vancouver to Ottawa than from Saskatchewan, Manitoba or NFLD yet those provinces are not on the list. Airfare is based on competition and demand for seats, not just distance.

    Second, Wilson-Raybould spent 3 times the amount that another cabinet minister from another Vancouver metro riding charged. So much for this being just a factor of distance.

    And an NDP MP also from Vancouver area spent $0.00 of taxpayer money over the last 4 years on designated travel. So I put forward it is more the ethics of the person using/abusing the program than it is based on distance. I cannot agree with you more, we need to look at the whole picture and not just distance from Ottawa.
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    Sep 11, 2019 | 08:34 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    It’s not but dmlfarmer would like to change the channel when Skippy is in the limelight with his scandals, right out of the Liberal playbook....
    No, you are missing the point. This is what we end up with when we only demand accountability from one side. Cry all you want about Liberal ethics, the other parties are equally shameful and this was just the latest example. It is the reason why the west will never get respect because the Conservatives knows they have the west vote wrapped up so they do not have to do anything to earn the vote out west. Most western Canadians do not have a clue as to what the Conservative platform is, yet support Scheer (who??) simply because they want Trudeau out. Abuse of the system is always the result when you vote against something instead of for something.
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    SASKFARMER's Avatar Sep 11, 2019 | 08:47 16

    Listen to shit heads speech it’s harpers fault. Duck I hate liberals Reply With Quote

  • Sep 11, 2019 | 09:05 17 Sounds like Trudeau has made history blocking an RCMP investigation by calling an election.
    He is also skipping the first political debate to avoid answering any questions.

    Sounds like an innocent guy doesn’t he? 😂 Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2019 | 09:08 18 I will go back to the Harper years....have a Prime Minister that showed up for work everyday on behalf of Canadians....and wasn't an embarrassment on the world stage... Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2019 | 09:26 19 man Trudeau stacked his cabinet with incompetents and went all in for quebec and now he is probably going to be charged after the election. What for? Or is there something deeper and darker being hidden.
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    Sep 11, 2019 | 09:29 20
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    I will go back to the Harper years....have a Prime Minister that showed up for work everyday on behalf of Canadians....and wasn't an embarrassment on the world stage...
    thanks for making my point Bucket. You ignore that Harper was the only Canadian PM ever to be found in contempt of parliament - and not once but twice. You forgot about the numerous Senate scandals - Duffy, Wallan, Brazeau - all Harper appointees and the coverups his office attempted such as the Wright payment. Your forgot the In/Out election scandal or the G8 funding scandal. You forgot the lack of support he showed for veterans. It was his government's ignoring Canadian courts rulings regarding Khadar's rights that resulted in the the $10,000,000 payment to Khadar. And you always complain about the lack of transparency in grain pricing, that only got worse when they did an incomplete job of getting rid of the CWB.

    No matter who is in government, unless they are held accountable by not only the opposition but by their supporters as well, they will fail ethically at some point in time. Simply showing up for work is not enough.
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    Sep 11, 2019 | 09:31 21
    Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER View Post


    Listen to shit heads speech it’s harpers fault. Duck I hate liberals
    It is harpers fault if he wasn’t such a dink we wouldn’t have this airheaded pussy. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2019 | 09:32 22
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    Sounds like Trudeau has made history blocking an RCMP investigation by calling an election.
    He is also skipping the first political debate to avoid answering any questions.

    Sounds like an innocent guy doesn’t he? 😂
    If Trudeau is willing to miss debates, then the opposition parties need to be willing to spend lots of time during those debates, speaking of Trudeau's obstruction and what he could be hiding from Canadians. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 11, 2019 | 09:34 23
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    thanks for making my point Bucket. You ignore that Harper was the only Canadian PM ever to be found in contempt of parliament - and not once but twice. You forgot about the numerous Senate scandals - Duffy, Wallan, Brazeau - all Harper appointees and the coverups his office attempted such as the Wright payment. Your forgot the In/Out election scandal or the G8 funding scandal. You forgot the lack of support he showed for veterans. And you always complain about the lack of transparency in grain pricing, that only got worse when they did an incomplete job of getting rid of the CWB.

    No matter who is in government, unless they are held accountable by not only the opposition but by their supporters as well, they will fail ethically at some point in time. Simply showing up for work is not enough.
    Yeah dml your revisionist harper blame wont cut it and it doesn't even register in terms of what skippy has done, not only to our democracy but our economy.

    harpers indiscretions are nothing and he never personally was implicated nor investigated. Nor did he block any inquiry. Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2019 | 09:41 24
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    thanks for making my point Bucket. You ignore that Harper was the only Canadian PM ever to be found in contempt of parliament - and not once but twice. You forgot about the numerous Senate scandals - Duffy, Wallan, Brazeau - all Harper appointees and the coverups his office attempted such as the Wright payment. Your forgot the In/Out election scandal or the G8 funding scandal. You forgot the lack of support he showed for veterans. And you always complain about the lack of transparency in grain pricing, that only got worse when they did an incomplete job of getting rid of the CWB.

    No matter who is in government, unless they are held accountable by not only the opposition but by their supporters as well, they will fail ethically at some point in time. Simply showing up for work is not enough.
    Yes ....I can't argue your points ...but I didn't give them a free pass...but you also have to remember under Harper the country was much more united than it is today...

    I don't there was a free for all in money flowing either...

    The wright payment was a problem but the taxpayers were made whole unless you count all the wasted effort investigating it....

    And Yerry did a shit job implementing the open market no doubt... by bad advice from the masters/sponsors that run the WCWGA and had his ear to whisper in...

    And no one has corrected it....

    Support for veterans ...what did Trudeau say...he didn't have the money ????? Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2019 | 16:08 25 Australia had election back in May.

    Conservatives expected to lose power and lose big.

    Socialists and greens to increase seats.

    Was by some dubbed climate change election not sure if thats correct.

    Many of the "old guard" in consevatives retired in months before election was due.

    Conservatives won with increases i think in all states.

    Polls horribly incorrect.

    Since election socilaits gone from bad to worse as have greens.

    Australia is very very much a right leaning country and resource and export rich country. Threats of carbon tax to be revisted for third time didnt auger well been repealed never to return by conservatives. Technically never made it through parliment.

    Many coal workers or mining industry workers actually voted conservative worried about jobs and incessant threats to coal gas and all mining.

    Parralles canada to a degree i guess. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 11, 2019 | 17:21 26
    Quote Originally Posted by malleefarmer View Post
    Australia had election back in May.

    Conservatives expected to lose power and lose big.

    Socialists and greens to increase seats.

    Was by some dubbed climate change election not sure if thats correct.

    Many of the "old guard" in consevatives retired in months before election was due.

    Conservatives won with increases i think in all states.

    Polls horribly incorrect.

    Since election socilaits gone from bad to worse as have greens.

    Australia is very very much a right leaning country and resource and export rich country. Threats of carbon tax to be revisted for third time didnt auger well been repealed never to return by conservatives. Technically never made it through parliment.

    Many coal workers or mining industry workers actually voted conservative worried about jobs and incessant threats to coal gas and all mining.

    Parralles canada to a degree i guess.
    Can only hope Reply With Quote
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