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Sep 9, 2019 | 22:33 1 I wonder if you guys/gals could do a story on how much carbon tax is costing farmers
Maybe could touch on how Ralph Goodale said there would be no direct carbon tax to farmers
One person on here just eluded to on here that it approx 8% direct tax on his propane for grain drying
Maybe touch on the fact that the western prairies have had one of the coldest summers ever
Could also touch on the fact that farmers cannot pass this charge on , especially in light of the fact that this govt has chased away many of our customers and grain prices have declined and there is no extra money for this foolishness
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 03:46 2 Maybe a story that grain prices were higher in the 70s ....

    Or maybe a public listing of the corporate handouts from protein industries Canada and the benefit provided to primary producers...cough.... Reply With Quote

  • Sep 10, 2019 | 06:50 3 Remember the guys and gals at the western producer want a seed tax. look at the adds Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 07:19 4 I don’t read that leftard CBC in print garbage. Would help if they actually had someone who knew something about real Agriculture. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 07:20 5 Please refer to the guys and gals at WP as comrade. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 07:28 6
    Quote Originally Posted by FarmJunkie View Post
    I don’t read that leftard CBC in print garbage. Would help if they actually had someone who knew something about real Agriculture.
    Like this story?

    Rain and cool weather delaying Saskatchewan harvest

    Seriously they used a picture of a guy row cropping lettuce. You cant make this up.

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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 10, 2019 | 07:51 7 I've seen some pictures tagged into news stories in that paper that I thought were odd as well.
    Says something. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 07:59 8 They can't print something like that.....their articles need to mention that canola stocks are sooo high....yields are so large....everything is great. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 08:07 9 If you went back through the last 2 years of the Western Producers you will see that they have been covering the Carbon Tax and its impact on agriculture.

    You may not agree with all the coverage. But their job is not to represent just one side of the discussion and debate. Reply With Quote
    Partners's Avatar Sep 10, 2019 | 08:08 10 It's a good idea.
    But hardly anyone reads that rag anymore. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 10:11 11
    Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
    It's a good idea.
    But hardly anyone reads that rag anymore.
    Cancelled mine years ago. Propaganda machine for checkoff groups. Never missed it. All farm mags are ridiculously expensive anyways. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 10:17 12 They report the ship leaving churchill.....sort of forgot to mention the subsidy provided to make that happen and how much will be shipped out of there this year...

    No mandatory sales reporting federally but it would help...

    Its a buck a bushel subsidy if they hit 300000 tonnes a year , which they won't , on the lowest cost shipping route for the prairies...

    No performance standards on that 110 million... Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 10:25 13 30,000 paid subscribers. 3.2 readers per subscription.

    If you don't read the Western Producer for general farm news coverage in Saskatchewan, what other options are there for farm news and stories in print and online that have the resources to cover farm news in any credible way?

    Almost all the other farm newspapers and publications are are owned by the same company Glacier Farm Media. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 10:40 14
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    If you went back through the last 2 years of the Western Producers you will see that they have been covering the Carbon Tax and its impact on agriculture.

    You may not agree with all the coverage. But their job is not to represent just one side of the discussion and debate.
    you said there was no impact ,all good , right??
    we don't need to dry grain anyways............ Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 10:51 15 Based on the current price of propane, in four years an 8 cents per litre carbon tax on propane will be an additional 21% charge.
    (Current price is 38 cents per litre.)

    Natural Gas will also be taxed, but not sure on rate. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 11:25 16
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    30,000 paid subscribers. 3.2 readers per subscription.

    If you don't read the Western Producer for general farm news coverage in Saskatchewan, what other options are there for farm news and stories in print and online that have the resources to cover farm news in any credible way?

    Almost all the other farm newspapers and publications are are owned by the same company Glacier Farm Media.
    FYI: The Western Producer is owned by GVIC Communications Corp. Any guess what the "G" stands for? Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar Sep 10, 2019 | 11:29 17
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    Based on the current price of propane, in four years an 8 cents per litre carbon tax on propane will be an additional 21% charge.
    (Current price is 38 cents per litre.)

    Natural Gas will also be taxed, but not sure on rate.
    Vote Lieberal for destroying all business in Canada...just hug a green plan, plug your car into your ASS. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 10, 2019 | 12:49 18
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    If you went back through the last 2 years of the Western Producers you will see that they have been covering the Carbon Tax and its impact on agriculture.

    You may not agree with all the coverage. But their job is not to represent just one side of the discussion and debate.
    Chuck interesting article in National Post:B.C. Greenhouse gas emissions near 2007 levels despite carbon tax. What the article misses is that in 2015 B.C.'s C02 emissions were 61.3 million tonnes, in 2016 they were 62.3 million tonnes and in 2017 as stated by the article they were just over 64.4 million tonnes. B.C. has the most celebrated carbon tax in North America but from 2015 to 2017 their emissions increased by over 5%. What's gives? Reply With Quote
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  • blackpowder's Avatar Sep 10, 2019 | 14:04 19 I subscribe to 0 farm publications.
    The odd free or promotional issue ( not Seducer) sneaks in the mail. I skim them occasionally to make sure it's the same shite. Dad's been dead 19 years and he still gets one.
    Damn near impossible to find a relevant article anywhere. Agronomy ok if can find.
    No other CEOs would get Green Acres type garbage in the mail. What's mail?
    Also, the more reclusive I get, the less the phone rings. No chem/seed sales, no govt. Wonder why.... Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 15:15 20 I was flipping through the channels last night and stopped on tha National for some stupid reason and listened to that Rosemary choochbag talk to the mayor of Vancouver and talk about how green the city is. Stupid broad failed to ask Mayor smartie pants where Vancouver dumps all their shit and garbage. Ocean say hello to plastic straws and turds floating by making u soooo much greener. ****ing airheads on every side now. Reporters are just talking heads that push an agenda. Makes u sick that there are no leaders or people of influence that tell it like it is and create real solutions to real problems. Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 16:22 21
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    30,000 paid subscribers. 3.2 readers per subscription.

    If you don't read the Western Producer for general farm news coverage in Saskatchewan, what other options are there for farm news and stories in print and online that have the resources to cover farm news in any credible way?

    Almost all the other farm newspapers and publications are are owned by the same company Glacier Farm Media.
    Seriously??? Lol , the week old to two week old one sided propaganda from the WP .... 😂😂 Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 16:50 22 I dug out some old cash receipts from 1995 that were still kicking around, in that particular year I sold NO 1 large green lentils for .20 lb, today it’s pretty well the same price. Used a 100k combine to get them off, today combine and header are 4 times that or more. What are we going to do??
    How can we keep carrying on? Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 17:20 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
    Chuck interesting article in National Post:B.C. Greenhouse gas emissions near 2007 levels despite carbon tax. What the article misses is that in 2015 B.C.'s C02 emissions were 61.3 million tonnes, in 2016 they were 62.3 million tonnes and in 2017 as stated by the article they were just over 64.4 million tonnes. B.C. has the most celebrated carbon tax in North America but from 2015 to 2017 their emissions increased by over 5%. What's gives?
    I saw that too. The article mentioned economic growth is one reason and increasing emissions from some industrial sectors. Agriculture was mentioned as a source of increased emissions. Farm fuels are exempt in BC I believe.

    The good news is BC has good economic growth, the idea that a carbon tax is an economy killer is wrong in BC. A carbon tax is just tool. And maybe not as effective at lower rates.

    In BC I think they were able to lower income taxes and other taxes because they were getting more revenue from carbon taxes.

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/b-c-greenhouse-gas-emissions-near-2007-levels-despite-carbon-tax-ndp-data

    "The ministry said 2017 emissions fell in several sectors including petroleum, oil and gas extraction, road transport and public electricity and heat production. Sectors where emission increased included manufacturing, off-road transport, residential construction and agriculture.

    Heyman said the increases in emissions were associated with B.C.’s growing economy in 2017.

    Green party Leader Andrew Weaver said he was concerned with the emissions levels, saying ordinary B.C. residents are doing their part to fight pollution, but industry emissions are largely rising."
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    Sep 10, 2019 | 17:22 24
    Quote Originally Posted by bigzee View Post
    I dug out some old cash receipts from 1995 that were still kicking around, in that particular year I sold NO 1 large green lentils for .20 lb, today it’s pretty well the same price. Used a 100k combine to get them off, today combine and header are 4 times that or more. What are we going to do??
    How can we keep carrying on?
    Gotta quadruple the acres. It’s that simple! Lol Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 18:01 25
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    30,000 paid subscribers. 3.2 readers per subscription.

    If you don't read the Western Producer for general farm news coverage in Saskatchewan, what other options are there for farm news and stories in print and online that have the resources to cover farm news in any credible way?

    Almost all the other farm newspapers and publications are are owned by the same company Glacier Farm Media.
    mostly 90 year olds reading it? Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 18:07 26
    Quote Originally Posted by MBgrower View Post
    mostly 90 year olds reading it?
    Just like fake , dead or retired farmers voting for the CWB .... it’s all about the rest of the story ...
    kinda like the fake temperatures used to manipulate global warming scam .
    It’s all in data management....or manipulation...... lol Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 18:22 27
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    The good news is BC has good economic growth, the idea that a carbon tax is an economy killer is wrong in BC. A carbon tax is just tool. And maybe not as effective at lower rates.
    Really? Or maybe just masked by foreign housing money coming in.

    Hundreds of jobs on the line amid latest blow to B.C. forestry sector Reply With Quote
    wd9
    Sep 10, 2019 | 21:29 28
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    I wonder if you guys/gals could do a story on how much carbon tax is costing farmers
    Maybe could touch on how Ralph Goodale said there would be no direct carbon tax to farmers
    One person on here just eluded to on here that it approx 8% direct tax on his propane for grain drying
    Maybe touch on the fact that the western prairies have had one of the coldest summers ever
    Could also touch on the fact that farmers cannot pass this charge on , especially in light of the fact that this govt has chased away many of our customers and grain prices have declined and there is no extra money for this foolishness
    Thank you
    There is little point having a farm magazine telling farmers what farmers already know. Better to get your story into magazines that people with means and leadership will read. For example, did this interview a few weeks ago where i went up against the VP of RBC about whether or not the data revolution matters for farmers. Well it doesn't, its to price the products you buy more effectively for profit.

    https://business.financialpost.com/c...ills-rbc-study

    Write some letters to the editor of major newspapers, your MP, MLA, local paper, magazines, whatever. But telling ourselves our problems has little value. Reply With Quote
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 10, 2019 | 22:44 29 wd9, I think there is way more traffic on this site than meets the eye.
    I would think it's well read and monitored by people looking for "opinion". Reply With Quote
    Sep 11, 2019 | 05:27 30
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    wd9, I think there is way more traffic on this site than meets the eye.
    I would think it's well read and monitored by people looking for "opinion".
    Geez I better watch my tongue and opinions might be sopped at the border I I ever grace you’re shores again Reply With Quote