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Lets name all the farm groups......

Sep 6, 2019 | 07:18 1 That are supposedly working on our behalf....add on and ask yourself and comment as to what they have done on our behalf...

1. APAS....????
2. Grain growers Canada....????
3. Ag Growth Coalition....????
4. Sask canola
5. Sask Pulse
6. saskflax
7. Pulse canada
8. CCGA
9. Canadian Cattleman Assoc.
10. Sask stock growers
11. Sask wheat
12. Sask barley
13. Ag more than ever/ agvocate
14. SARM...

A lot of these groups have the same people on them...and what have they accomplished to better agriculture for your farm?

Since a federal election is coming up ...it would be nice to hear what my checkoff dollars or tax dollar representatives are doing ..

Or will the excuse be we have to wait for a new government...
Last edited by bucket; Sep 6, 2019 at 07:30.
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  • Sep 6, 2019 | 07:34 2 I will disagree with you on the cattleman"s association and sask stock growers. I am not a rancher but I do hear ads on the radio sponsored by Sask beef promoting their product, same as the ad campaign from Sask dairy. On the other hand has anybody ever heard anything from our producer groups promoting anything? Reply With Quote
    Sep 6, 2019 | 07:41 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterjade9 View Post
    I will disagree with you on the cattleman"s association and sask stock growers. I am not a rancher but I do hear ads on the radio sponsored by Sask beef promoting their product, same as the ad campaign from Sask dairy. On the other hand has anybody ever heard anything from our producer groups promoting anything?
    I just listed them ...I think they have an obligation to ask candidates in the federal election about policy...

    I haven't passed judgement on this thread yet other than the ones with the ????? behind them. Reply With Quote
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Sep 6, 2019 | 08:03 4 For the first time ever I applied for my check off money back.
    Messages need to be sent.
    I can imagine what some heavy hitters are paying. But everything is relative.
    August 31 was the deadline. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 6, 2019 | 08:31 5 You have listed the Sask producer groups but AB and Man have the same groups for their provinces with the same mandates? Reply With Quote
    Sep 6, 2019 | 08:31 6
    Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
    For the first time ever I applied for my check off money back.
    Messages need to be sent.
    I can imagine what some heavy hitters are paying. But everything is relative.
    August 31 was the deadline.
    August 31 deadline. I wonder why they choose that date. Busy time of year and guys don’t bother getting check off back. Dec 31 deadline.... I bet there would be a less money going into the coffers Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 6, 2019 | 08:45 7
    Quote Originally Posted by Bowerpower View Post
    August 31 deadline. I wonder why they choose that date. Busy time of year and guys don’t bother getting check off back. Dec 31 deadline.... I bet there would be a less money going into the coffers
    I wonder how much they would get if the check offs were voluntary at time of grain sales instead and if some of the other voluntary groups would have a better enrollment if they were added to the list at time of grain deliveries. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 6, 2019 | 09:15 8 Why did all these groups not get together and go to Ottawa to demand action on tariffs ?? That is by far the number on issue . We are getting shut out of markets all over the world yet you hear nothing
    I hope they all enjoy their winter meetings in warm tropical destinations this winter as producers will struggle to pay bills with shit prices and very limited market access
    Oh and dealing with wet harvest weather that deteriorating quality by the day
    Last edited by furrowtickler; Sep 6, 2019 at 09:58.
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  • Sep 6, 2019 | 11:12 9
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterjade9 View Post
    I will disagree with you on the cattleman"s association and sask stock growers. I am not a rancher but I do hear ads on the radio sponsored by Sask beef promoting their product, same as the ad campaign from Sask dairy. On the other hand has anybody ever heard anything from our producer groups promoting anything?
    Is that what they need to be doing though and is it good value for money? Generic advertising of beef in rural areas of the domestic marketplace? I don't have the current figures in Canada but the beef sector in the US is an absolute bloodbath by all accounts and I fully expect that to carryover into Canada this fall given how the two markets are so integrated. Packer margins are at an all time high ($6-700/animal) while the % of retail dollar coming back to beef producers is going to hit an all time low this year, surpassing last year's woeful low by quite a margin. Reply With Quote
    Sep 6, 2019 | 12:24 10
    Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Why did all these groups not get together and go to Ottawa to demand action on tariffs ?? That is by far the number on issue . We are getting shut out of markets all over the world yet you hear nothing
    I hope they all enjoy their winter meetings in warm tropical destinations this winter as producers will struggle to pay bills with shit prices and very limited market access
    Oh and dealing with wet harvest weather that deteriorating quality by the day
    because they don't have to
    we let the do sweet **** all Reply With Quote
    SASKFARMER's Avatar Sep 6, 2019 | 14:00 11 Same guys recycle from one organization to others. Basically useless fools who just collect a check and fly all over on our dime Reply With Quote
    Sep 6, 2019 | 14:34 12 Need people who are willing to go in and stir the pot🐎 Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 6, 2019 | 15:49 13 Too bad the bitchers and whiners on Agriville couldn’t attract more than the other bitchers and whiners on Agriville. Reply With Quote
    Sep 6, 2019 | 17:41 14 I get all my check off back dollars back now for the last couple years, rather send that money to charitable organizations that MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Reply With Quote
    Sep 6, 2019 | 22:18 15
    Quote Originally Posted by stubblejumper View Post
    Too bad the bitchers and whiners on Agriville couldn’t attract more than the other bitchers and whiners on Agriville.
    Too bad the useless people at these check off $ clubs couldnt get off their ass and open their mouths Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 7, 2019 | 07:08 16
    Quote Originally Posted by grassfarmer View Post
    Is that what they need to be doing though and is it good value for money? Generic advertising of beef in rural areas of the domestic marketplace? I don't have the current figures in Canada but the beef sector in the US is an absolute bloodbath by all accounts and I fully expect that to carryover into Canada this fall given how the two markets are so integrated. Packer margins are at an all time high ($6-700/animal) while the % of retail dollar coming back to beef producers is going to hit an all time low this year, surpassing last year's woeful low by quite a margin.
    Maybe, maybe not at least it is something. We are in an time, whether right or wrong of mass climate change hysteria, inept governments and and inaccurate information regarding our chemical use. (Take that Austranda) So what are our producer groups, who have our checkoff dollars doing to inform Joe Q public about what we have done and continue to do as both animal and commodity producers that better the environment and continue to provide a cheap safe food source? The answer to that is simple SFA (and I don't mean Saskfarmer). I still maintain we need a single entity similar to the the American Farm Bureau to lobby on behalf of all of us. Reply With Quote

  • Sep 7, 2019 | 12:06 17
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterjade9 View Post
    Maybe, maybe not at least it is something. We are in an time, whether right or wrong of mass climate change hysteria, inept governments and and inaccurate information regarding our chemical use. (Take that Austranda) So what are our producer groups, who have our checkoff dollars doing to inform Joe Q public about what we have done and continue to do as both animal and commodity producers that better the environment and continue to provide a cheap safe food source? The answer to that is simple SFA (and I don't mean Saskfarmer). I still maintain we need a single entity similar to the the American Farm Bureau to lobby on behalf of all of us.
    I don't know Misterjade, it seems there is a lack of common consensus over the role of our "farm groups".
    On one hand farm groups (system A) can use their funds (usually checkoff $s) for generic promotion of the end product derived from the crop they are growing whether that be milk, canola, beef or barley. They can use it for making "feel good" promotional pieces to tell consumers the story of the product.

    Or they can use their funds (system B) for political ends - lobbying and trying to persuade politicians to take action on their member's behalves to try and better the circumstances on their members farms.

    I dislike A but support B. I've never understood how primary producers got conned into supplying almost all the promotional dollars for the end product through levy funding. Why the rancher or feedlot owner pays almost the total cost of generic beef advertising when they only surrender live cattle to the packing sector. We don't sell beef we sell live cattle. Do steel manufacturers pay the advertising budget for Ford motor company - then why should we? I am increasingly dubious of the value of "feel good" promotions - I think they are to distract you from the fact the organization is not doing the real work
    they should be doing.

    I prefer the B approach - pay a membership to a political organization whose policy is based first and foremost on improving net returns for their member's operations. Reply With Quote
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  • Sep 10, 2019 | 15:34 18 I see APAS has posted their federal election asks.
    www.apas.ca Reply With Quote
    Sep 10, 2019 | 17:58 19
    Quote Originally Posted by NoBS View Post
    I see APAS has posted their federal election asks.
    www.apas.ca
    Interesting
    Good idea for a national mandate for 10% ethanol and 5% biodiesel should be a slam dunk with all parties and will consume wheat and canola in Canada.....even Climate Barbie and a drunk Elizabeth May can’t argue against that. 👍🏻
    -MFP style payment due to trade disruptions. Reply With Quote